Author Topic: 2 handers (Read 13325 times)

echidapus · « **on:** December 04, 2008, 01:43:24 AM »

Is there a web page where you can learn how to bowl 2 handed? Or do most just go out there and wing it and see what happens?

ucumin2 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 05, 2008, 05:15:00 PM »

No whinning here just trying 2 figure out why people think this is the next big thing. Asking a question 2 someone who is bringing so light on situation unlike yourself just trying 2 piss someone off

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Dont see how you are able to change hand/wrist/finger positions. Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

As far as the spares your a good shooter but i was asking is there a rule out there about changing from 1 hand to 2 handed ? I just keep hearing how 2handers are very accurate with 2 hands but then why shoot spares with 1?
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #47 on:** December 05, 2008, 05:41:48 PM »

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Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

Amazing logic... Sounds like when a parent gives a kid the reasoning "Because I said so!" Basically, you're admitting you don't like it simply because you're close-minded and set in your ways, not because it's necessarily bad.

JD74 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 05, 2008, 07:28:28 PM »

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Dont see how you are able to change hand/wrist/finger positions. Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

As far as the spares your a good shooter but i was asking is there a rule out there about changing from 1 hand to 2 handed ? I just keep hearing how 2handers are very accurate with 2 hands but then why shoot spares with 1?

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Motion is the same besides the stance of a cranker. High rev . Just dont see it being versatile for conditions. Like the crankers unless you can adjust. Dont see many adjustments that can be made. So why try it if you cant bowl on every lanes condition?

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I can adjust wrist/hand/finger positions on the bottom hand(the one in the ball) the exact same way a 1 handed bowler does, I use my thumb, so I can do exactly the same with that hand as all you one handers. Plus can adjust roll and tilt with the top hand without having to change wrist positions.

As for it being a joke, thats just an assinine comment.
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fuel3331 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 05, 2008, 07:54:22 PM »

The 2-handed style is becoming more popular because it takes full advantage of the new bowling equipment on the market. You never saw this 25 years ago because even with the increased revs 2-hands provide, the rubber, plastic, and urethane balls wouldn't recover when swinging out that far - clearly not the case now. People who are able to do it want too because it yeilds more strikes, even when compared to traditional 1-handed power players. I'm a high rev righty and can average 225-230 on a THS, but I know 2-handed guys that are not as accurate as me, but average hgiher because they simply generate more striking power with 2-hands. I understand your point about 2-handers not winning that many big time tournaments, but that's due to the style's life span - it has not been around that long. I see no reason a decade from now why their won't be fulltime touring pros who have the skill to make that style work.

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No whinning here just trying 2 figure out why people think this is the next big thing. Asking a question 2 someone who is bringing so light on situation unlike yourself just trying 2 piss someone off

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Dont see how you are able to change hand/wrist/finger positions. Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

As far as the spares your a good shooter but i was asking is there a rule out there about changing from 1 hand to 2 handed ? I just keep hearing how 2handers are very accurate with 2 hands but then why shoot spares with 1?
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ucumin2 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 06, 2008, 08:11:42 AM »

Thats my point right there. 2 handers can miss there mark and still score and that is good how. just because you can strike doesnt mean ur good. That is 1 of the reasons i dont agree with 2 handed bowlers. The sport is about hitting ur mark and constituency. If you can miss and still score how is that making you a better bowler ?

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The 2-handed style is becoming more popular because it takes full advantage of the new bowling equipment on the market. You never saw this 25 years ago because even with the increased revs 2-hands provide, the rubber, plastic, and urethane balls wouldn't recover when swinging out that far - clearly not the case now. People who are able to do it want too because it yeilds more strikes, even when compared to traditional 1-handed power players. I'm a high rev righty and can average 225-230 on a THS, but I know 2-handed guys that are not as accurate as me, but average hgiher because they simply generate more striking power with 2-hands. I understand your point about 2-handers not winning that many big time tournaments, but that's due to the style's life span - it has not been around that long. I see no reason a decade from now why their won't be fulltime touring pros who have the skill to make that style work.

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No whinning here just trying 2 figure out why people think this is the next big thing. Asking a question 2 someone who is bringing so light on situation unlike yourself just trying 2 piss someone off

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Dont see how you are able to change hand/wrist/finger positions. Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

As far as the spares your a good shooter but i was asking is there a rule out there about changing from 1 hand to 2 handed ? I just keep hearing how 2handers are very accurate with 2 hands but then why shoot spares with 1?
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JD74 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:57:35 AM »

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Thats my point right there. 2 handers can miss there mark and still score and that is good how. just because you can strike doesnt mean ur good. That is 1 of the reasons i dont agree with 2 handed bowlers. The sport is about hitting ur mark and constituency. If you can miss and still score how is that making you a better bowler ?
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The ones that are good do not miss there mark much at all,and if they do its not by much, I dont miss mine much at all and if I do its by 1 at the arrows and 1-2 at the breakpoint, when you get good at it its very easy to get consistent. Everyone that has any type of hand, even low rev strokers have A LOT of room for error on a THS. If your worried about hitting your mark so much and consistency, take that average of yours into a PBA Expierience league, then you'll see how "accurate" you really are. No one with a 206-210 average on a THS hits there mark consistently, cause otherwise it would be in the 220's easy if you did because of the easyness of them.
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ucumin2 · « **Reply #52 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:43:44 AM »

Im never worried about hitting my mark. All i have heard and seen is how 2 handers are very inconstited. All im saying. Seems like all ur worried about is average. Im very happy with my average this year and most of all how im throwing the ball. Just because you can write 220 plus doesnt mean anything to me. Just another BS bowler here trying to make a name for them self. Sticking up for 2 handers and a lefty im sorry for you.

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Thats my point right there. 2 handers can miss there mark and still score and that is good how. just because you can strike doesnt mean ur good. That is 1 of the reasons i dont agree with 2 handed bowlers. The sport is about hitting ur mark and constituency. If you can miss and still score how is that making you a better bowler ?
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The ones that are good do not miss there mark much at all,and if they do its not by much, I dont miss mine much at all and if I do its by 1 at the arrows and 1-2 at the breakpoint, when you get good at it its very easy to get consistent. Everyone that has any type of hand, even low rev strokers have A LOT of room for error on a THS. If your worried about hitting your mark so much and consistency, take that average of yours into a PBA Expierience league, then you'll see how "accurate" you really are. No one with a 206-210 average on a THS hits there mark consistently, cause otherwise it would be in the 220's easy if you did because of the easyness of them.
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JD74 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:56:56 AM »

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Im never worried about hitting my mark. All i have heard and seen is how 2 handers are very inconstited. All im saying. Seems like all ur worried about is average. Im very happy with my average this year and most of all how im throwing the ball. Just because you can write 220 plus doesnt mean anything to me. Just another BS bowler here trying to make a name for them self. Sticking up for 2 handers and a lefty im sorry for you.
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right, because playing straight down and in you dont have to worry about hitting it, yea the revs are nice, but if I miss out Im on the nose, if I miss in Im on the nose, so yes to be good at 2 handed you have to be able to be consistent which according to the bowlers map session I had 2 years ago I am very consistent and within a board at the arrows every shot, and within 1-2 at the breakpoint. My average doesnt matter to me, winning is what matters to me and I do it well, as for making a name for myself, everyone in this entire valley where I live (around 40-50 miles) knows exactly who I am, I've already more than made a name for myself especially in this area. 90% of the people in the house you bowl at probably dont even know who you are because you just blend in with the rest of the low average strokers trying to get better. Sad really. As for sticking up for 2 handers, I AM ONE, if you would read you would learn that.
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roguetwo · « **Reply #54 on:** December 06, 2008, 11:03:28 AM »

Don't feed the troll guys...how can you argue this point with someone who can't even speak correctly.

My guess is he is all out of sorts because a 2 hander is throwing a beat down on him in his league lol...I love his logic of how all the 2 handers have is spray the ball all over the lanes and they will score...is it just me or isn't that typical on a THS?

? lol

fuel3331 · « **Reply #55 on:** December 06, 2008, 11:13:11 AM »

ucumin2 - I understand your thinking that bowling should be about hitting your mark consistently, but due to advances in the sport that basic rule-of-thumb has changed. Being successful is no longer about splitting boards each shot, it's about generating the most area on the lane where your ball can hit the pocket and strike. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just the way it is now. You hear Randy on the PBA finals all the time talking about how one of the guys seems to have more margin for error than his counterpart, and their usually the favorite for that particular match. This entire thread about how good/bad smart/stupid the 2-handed style is reminds me of Rick Barry shooting free throws. His "granny-style" looks absolutely ridiculous and totally unathletic, but even now he still stands as one of the five best free throw shooters in NBA history. He got it done in his sport looking different, 2-handers are getting in done in bowling looking different. Real bowling is a competitive venture just like any other sport. Whichever way produces the best results that's what you should go with.

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Thats my point right there. 2 handers can miss there mark and still score and that is good how. just because you can strike doesnt mean ur good. That is 1 of the reasons i dont agree with 2 handed bowlers. The sport is about hitting ur mark and constituency. If you can miss and still score how is that making you a better bowler ?

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The 2-handed style is becoming more popular because it takes full advantage of the new bowling equipment on the market. You never saw this 25 years ago because even with the increased revs 2-hands provide, the rubber, plastic, and urethane balls wouldn't recover when swinging out that far - clearly not the case now. People who are able to do it want too because it yeilds more strikes, even when compared to traditional 1-handed power players. I'm a high rev righty and can average 225-230 on a THS, but I know 2-handed guys that are not as accurate as me, but average hgiher because they simply generate more striking power with 2-hands. I understand your point about 2-handers not winning that many big time tournaments, but that's due to the style's life span - it has not been around that long. I see no reason a decade from now why their won't be fulltime touring pros who have the skill to make that style work.

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No whinning here just trying 2 figure out why people think this is the next big thing. Asking a question 2 someone who is bringing so light on situation unlike yourself just trying 2 piss someone off

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Dont see how you are able to change hand/wrist/finger positions. Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

As far as the spares your a good shooter but i was asking is there a rule out there about changing from 1 hand to 2 handed ? I just keep hearing how 2handers are very accurate with 2 hands but then why shoot spares with 1?
]

to piss you off so you can b!itch whine and moan a little more.
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ucumin2 · « **Reply #56 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:57:25 PM »

Here it comes blah blah blah everyone knows who you are and your the best BS. Go choke some more 2 handed chump. Just another guy here with big online muscles and running at the mouth

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Im never worried about hitting my mark. All i have heard and seen is how 2 handers are very inconstited. All im saying. Seems like all ur worried about is average. Im very happy with my average this year and most of all how im throwing the ball. Just because you can write 220 plus doesnt mean anything to me. Just another BS bowler here trying to make a name for them self. Sticking up for 2 handers and a lefty im sorry for you.
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right, because playing straight down and in you dont have to worry about hitting it, yea the revs are nice, but if I miss out Im on the nose, if I miss in Im on the nose, so yes to be good at 2 handed you have to be able to be consistent which according to the bowlers map session I had 2 years ago I am very consistent and within a board at the arrows every shot, and within 1-2 at the breakpoint. My average doesnt matter to me, winning is what matters to me and I do it well, as for making a name for myself, everyone in this entire valley where I live (around 40-50 miles) knows exactly who I am, I've already more than made a name for myself especially in this area. 90% of the people in the house you bowl at probably dont even know who you are because you just blend in with the rest of the low average strokers trying to get better. Sad really. As for sticking up for 2 handers, I AM ONE, if you would read you would learn that.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #57 on:** December 06, 2008, 02:01:27 PM »

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The sport is about hitting ur mark and constituency.

...no, it's not. Bowling is about knocking down pins. Hitting your mark consistently certainly helps with that, but it's not THE goal. The goal is to knock down more pins than your opponent!

ucumin2 · « **Reply #58 on:** December 06, 2008, 02:04:08 PM »

Thats all very understandable. I agree with you as far as bowl which ever way you personally get best results but dont agree with 2 handed bowling being forced down everyones throat. Its like they think its the best and only way to do bowl anymore. I look at it this way just bring it and put ur money were ur mouth is. Just dont be like the only two 2 handers everyone can come up with and choke.

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ucumin2 - I understand your thinking that bowling should be about hitting your mark consistently, but due to advances in the sport that basic rule-of-thumb has changed. Being successful is no longer about splitting boards each shot, it's about generating the most area on the lane where your ball can hit the pocket and strike. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just the way it is now. You hear Randy on the PBA finals all the time talking about how one of the guys seems to have more margin for error than his counterpart, and their usually the favorite for that particular match. This entire thread about how good/bad smart/stupid the 2-handed style is reminds me of Rick Barry shooting free throws. His "granny-style" looks absolutely ridiculous and totally unathletic, but even now he still stands as one of the five best free throw shooters in NBA history. He got it done in his sport looking different, 2-handers are getting in done in bowling looking different. Real bowling is a competitive venture just like any other sport. Whichever way produces the best results that's what you should go with.

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Thats my point right there. 2 handers can miss there mark and still score and that is good how. just because you can strike doesnt mean ur good. That is 1 of the reasons i dont agree with 2 handed bowlers. The sport is about hitting ur mark and constituency. If you can miss and still score how is that making you a better bowler ?

quote:
The 2-handed style is becoming more popular because it takes full advantage of the new bowling equipment on the market. You never saw this 25 years ago because even with the increased revs 2-hands provide, the rubber, plastic, and urethane balls wouldn't recover when swinging out that far - clearly not the case now. People who are able to do it want too because it yeilds more strikes, even when compared to traditional 1-handed power players. I'm a high rev righty and can average 225-230 on a THS, but I know 2-handed guys that are not as accurate as me, but average hgiher because they simply generate more striking power with 2-hands. I understand your point about 2-handers not winning that many big time tournaments, but that's due to the style's life span - it has not been around that long. I see no reason a decade from now why their won't be fulltime touring pros who have the skill to make that style work.

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No whinning here just trying 2 figure out why people think this is the next big thing. Asking a question 2 someone who is bringing so light on situation unlike yourself just trying 2 piss someone off

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Dont see how you are able to change hand/wrist/finger positions. Reason i dont like it is because 2 ME its a joke.

As far as the spares your a good shooter but i was asking is there a rule out there about changing from 1 hand to 2 handed ? I just keep hearing how 2handers are very accurate with 2 hands but then why shoot spares with 1?
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to piss you off so you can b!itch whine and moan a little more.
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JD74 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 06, 2008, 02:41:34 PM »

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Here it comes blah blah blah everyone knows who you are and your the best BS. Go choke some more 2 handed chump. Just another guy here with big online muscles and running at the mouth

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No Im not FIGJAMing here, I've worked damn hard to make a name for myself around here, your the one that brought up the subject about being a nobody which I am not, especially around here. I'm not the best, but I'm in the top 5 around here and I am the best for my age, no one my age around here within 40 miles comes within 10 pins, but thats average, look at it this way when I bowled youth tournaments, I won 9 out of my first 9 then quit and joined mens leagues, they werent competitive. As for choking, I dont choke, there are no nerves with bowling, its a game and money is money, it comes and goes, theres no pressure with bowling. Maybe for you yea because guess what? 210 isnt winning against me EVER. So good luck. Honestly should have just stopped this conversation because Im talking to someone that thinks they know everything but blows at the game. I've been nice this whole time trying to explain things about it to you, but you've been a prick back and haven't listened to a thing I've said, so Im done with this subject. If you think your so good put your money where your mouth is, not over the internet with your big 210 average, a monkey can average 210 on a THS.
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strikealot · « **Reply #60 on:** December 06, 2008, 02:57:37 PM »

the day people quit using roboarms is the day we can have the debate about 2 handers...
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Author Topic: 2 handers (Read 13325 times)

echidapus

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ucumin2

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Dan Belcher

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JD74

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fuel3331

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ucumin2

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JD74

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roguetwo

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fuel3331

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ucumin2

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Dan Belcher

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