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echidapus

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2 handers
« on: December 04, 2008, 01:43:24 AM »
Is there a web page where you can learn how to bowl 2 handed?  Or do most just go out there and wing it and see what happens?

 

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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2008, 06:26:57 PM »
roboarms?

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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2008, 07:23:42 PM »
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roboarms?

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giant wrist braces im assuming. such as the spring loaded ones.

I dont even understand why there is a debate over 2 handers? there is no one way to bowl and I dont think it gives them an advantage unless we are talking about purely the THS.

people like osku and belmo are obviously skilled bowlers and they would have been just as good bowling 1 handed. I say this because in any sport the people who truly have talent (belmo proved hes talented already) will be victorious... sure theres a little luck sometimes (especially in bowling) but thats a given.

I say let the two handers just bowl....


If theres one thing I could say I hate about bowling...       the whining!

ill make a suggestion. next time a 2 hander beats you or another bowler carry a kleenex to wipe the tears.

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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2008, 07:28:30 PM »
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roboarms?

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the day people quit using roboarms is the day we can have the debate about 2 handers...
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giant wrist braces im assuming. such as the spring loaded ones.

I dont even understand why there is a debate over 2 handers? there is no one way to bowl and I dont think it gives them an advantage unless we are talking about purely the THS.

people like osku and belmo are obviously skilled bowlers and they would have been just as good bowling 1 handed. I say this because in any sport the people who truly have talent (belmo proved hes talented already) will be victorious... sure theres a little luck sometimes (especially in bowling) but thats a given.

I say let the two handers just bowl....


If theres one thing I could say I hate about bowling...       the whining!

ill make a suggestion. next time a 2 hander beats you or another bowler carry a kleenex to wipe the tears.

nuff said
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yes that is what im talking about.....i have no prob with 2 handers....i saw one of the first to do this or the first i saw do this in 1991, chuck landy...he was amazing at this and if you score better this way, more power to you..
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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2008, 07:34:49 PM »
Two handers have taken left handers place as the "whipping boy" for the masses...
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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2008, 07:54:09 PM »
ucumin,

You are entitled to your opinion and it is perfectly fine.  The game evolves about every 10-15 years.  In the 70s, you had the polyester age.  The 80s brought the urethanes.  The 90s brought you the reactive resin age.  Now, for the past 10+ years, you have the evolution of the 2 handed bowler.  There are people such as yourself that we consider traditionalists.  NOTHING wrong with that whatsoever.  You could not be any farther from teh truth, though, when you say that 2 handers have no sense of consistency/accuracy.  If that is the case, you would not have any of us on Team USA.  Osku would not have had a chance at the US Open several years ago (made the telecast with a field of several hundred).  I see 1 handed people spray the ball all over the place as well and average 200+.  Also, 2 handers can be versatile.  I have seen videos where Osku and Belmo are playing straight up 1st arrow as well as swinging gutter to gutter.  I have done it myself.  It can be done and all it takes is a couple vids from youtube to prove it. Your opinions are well noted and we understand.  However, your assessment of the 2 hander is WAYYY off.  You make it sound as though we are so much different than a 1 hander.  Fact is, that the release is 1 handed and the second hand stays on the ball for a longer period of time throughout the approach.  In reference to what is a joke, is someone who rants about something they know nothing about.  Is there an expert on the style that can say what the second hand really does (I'll wait a bit before I give my answer with my 12 years experience of doing it)?
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« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2008, 08:53:04 PM »
Agreed!, I have been doing it for 13 years also.People dont understand it like we do when we talk about the adjustments we can make with the top hand too, been trying to explain it and I cant get it through.

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ucumin,

You are entitled to your opinion and it is perfectly fine.  The game evolves about every 10-15 years.  In the 70s, you had the polyester age.  The 80s brought the urethanes.  The 90s brought you the reactive resin age.  Now, for the past 10+ years, you have the evolution of the 2 handed bowler.  There are people such as yourself that we consider traditionalists.  NOTHING wrong with that whatsoever.  You could not be any farther from teh truth, though, when you say that 2 handers have no sense of consistency/accuracy.  If that is the case, you would not have any of us on Team USA.  Osku would not have had a chance at the US Open several years ago (made the telecast with a field of several hundred).  I see 1 handed people spray the ball all over the place as well and average 200+.  Also, 2 handers can be versatile.  I have seen videos where Osku and Belmo are playing straight up 1st arrow as well as swinging gutter to gutter.  I have done it myself.  It can be done and all it takes is a couple vids from youtube to prove it. Your opinions are well noted and we understand.  However, your assessment of the 2 hander is WAYYY off.  You make it sound as though we are so much different than a 1 hander.  Fact is, that the release is 1 handed and the second hand stays on the ball for a longer period of time throughout the approach.  In reference to what is a joke, is someone who rants about something they know nothing about.  Is there an expert on the style that can say what the second hand really does (I'll wait a bit before I give my answer with my 12 years experience of doing it)?
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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2008, 09:11:25 PM »
Putting two handed bowling up there with two finger bowling!!! Works great on house shot and some sport shots but when it comes down to it put three fingers in the ball hold it with one handed and throw that red ball up five like the greats do!!!
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« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2008, 09:51:15 PM »
I put all 3 fingers in the ball and can play up 5 on just about anything, I dont get where people get it in there head that we can only crank the snot out of the ball. For the bad 2 handers thats all they can do, for the good ones that know there game and have been doing it a long time, we can adjust as good if not better than anyone and can play anywhere on the lanes with consistancy. We can adjust everything a 1 hander can and more because of being able to adjust with the top hand also, its a lot easier to generate a higher speed to play straighter too with the second hand. And that great your talking about (WRW Jr) is practicing bowling 2 handed so that he can make the ball hook more in the heavier oil tournaments.(Its in this months US Bowler in the article about Belmo), so your "great" is doing it too.
 
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Putting two handed bowling up there with two finger bowling!!! Works great on house shot and some sport shots but when it comes down to it put three fingers in the ball hold it with one handed and throw that red ball up five like the greats do!!!
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Re: 2 handers
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2008, 09:58:14 PM »
JD74, I am not trying to tell you what to do, but if I were you just let the haters continue to hate.  I think you are wasting time trying to convince those who are against two handed bowling, as they are not going to change their mind anyway, no matter how logical you break it down for them.  Also, many of those who hate on the two handers do so partly just to get a reaction out of you, so just ignore them and do the talking with your ball, so to speak.  

I am a traditional single handed lefty, and I am glad to see the two handers rise to prominence.  I think it adds a new dimension to the game, and shows that there is just another way to attack the lanes and be successful.  I wish you continued success, and hope to see you around sometime.  Take care.
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« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2008, 10:55:58 PM »
Thank You for the kind words Maine and it would be a pleasure to bowl with you so I hope to meet you around some day too. Like you said I am getting nowhere with all of this so I am done with the subject, if anyone needs any help with the 2 handed technique feel free to PM me and I will give advice on it.
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JD74, I am not trying to tell you what to do, but if I were you just let the haters continue to hate.  I think you are wasting time trying to convince those who are against two handed bowling, as they are not going to change their mind anyway, no matter how logical you break it down for them.  Also, many of those who hate on the two handers do so partly just to get a reaction out of you, so just ignore them and do the talking with your ball, so to speak.  

I am a traditional single handed lefty, and I am glad to see the two handers rise to prominence.  I think it adds a new dimension to the game, and shows that there is just another way to attack the lanes and be successful.  I wish you continued success, and hope to see you around sometime.  Take care.
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