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2-Piece bowling balls
« on: January 09, 2019, 04:03:11 AM »
Hello all! Been away from the game for a while now, but plan to start playing again soon in the near future. I know that I want to throw some Lane Masters stuff, basically because of the 2-piece construction.

Don't know if that's a big deal anymore, but I always wanted to throw their stuff. That being said, what other companies make 2-piece balls? I saw Brunswick's Quantum BIAS and got excited, but realized that it's the only ball from that line right now.

Many thanks in advance for any and all help.

 

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Re: 2-Piece bowling balls
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 09:11:18 AM »
Also, don't sleep on Brunswick's exclusive DynamiCore technology, it's available in multiple balls (Kingpin series, Tenacity series, Method, Vapor Zone, Fearless, True Motion, Mag 055, DV8 Pitbull Bark). Higher coefficient of restitution and more kinetic energy at the pins. Very durable outer cores on these balls. 
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Re: 2-Piece bowling balls
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 11:19:08 AM »
Also, don't sleep on Brunswick's exclusive DynamiCore technology, it's available in multiple balls (Kingpin series, Tenacity series, Method, Vapor Zone, Fearless, True Motion, Mag 055, DV8 Pitbull Bark). Higher coefficient of restitution and more kinetic energy at the pins. Very durable outer cores on these balls.

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 11:21:25 AM »
Nothing makes me laugh harder than the staffers(and wanna be staffers) spewing the latest marketing propaganda from their chosen company.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2019, 11:47:34 AM »
Nothing makes me laugh harder than the staffers(and wanna be staffers) spewing the latest marketing propaganda from their chosen company.

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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 11:48:00 AM »
Is it still marketing when it's backed by data?

CoR higher than standard outer core material, nearly the same as 2 piece thick shell balls in lab test.
More durable, lowest warranty claims in the history on balls with DynamiCore.
We're innovating new technologies, solving problems bowlers have seen for many years. With DOT and DynamiCore, we're expecting cracking to be almost non existent.

If nothing makes you laugh harder than staffers on ballreviews, then I suggest hitting up a local comedy club once in a while because the joke is on you.
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Re: 2-Piece bowling balls
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 12:01:45 PM »
Is it still marketing when it's backed by data?

CoR higher than standard outer core material, nearly the same as 2 piece thick shell balls in lab test.
More durable, lowest warranty claims in the history on balls with DynamiCore.
We're innovating new technologies, solving problems bowlers have seen for many years. With DOT and DynamiCore, we're expecting cracking to be almost non existent.

If nothing makes you laugh harder than staffers on ballreviews, then I suggest hitting up a local comedy club once in a while because the joke is on you.

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2019, 12:07:48 PM »
Sure, sure. It's the same claims that has been made by the ball companies since BEFORE I even started bowling.

Lane Masters/Legends talked about how their balls "sounded different" when they hit the pins and how they only used "premium grade A resins" in their construction and how their two piece designs improved the CoR.

When Motiv first came out, they talked up the "Reverb" outer core and how it transfers energy more efficiently to the pins and made a unique sound.

Just a couple of years ago, Hammer went with claiming carbon fiber in their covers made the balls last longer and hit harder because it transferred energy to the pins more efficiently.

So yea, I laugh. Your company has done nothing new. Oh wait, I'm sorry, they moved the pin to a different location. Lordy, what innovation...
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2019, 12:12:19 PM »
Sure, sure. It's the same claims that has been made by the ball companies since BEFORE I even started bowling.

Lane Masters/Legends talked about how their balls "sounded different" when they hit the pins and how they only used "premium grade A resins" in their construction and how their two piece designs improved the CoR.

When Motiv first came out, they talked up the "Reverb" outer core and how it transfers energy more efficiently to the pins and made a unique sound.

Just a couple of years ago, Hammer went with claiming carbon fiber in their covers made the balls last longer and hit harder because it transferred energy to the pins more efficiently.

So yea, I laugh. Your company has done nothing new. Oh wait, I'm sorry, they moved the pin to a different location. Lordy, what innovation...

You forgot Columbia's HyperShock technology. Also the black core materials in Ebonite and Track blocks (the name escapes me).
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Re: 2-Piece bowling balls
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2019, 12:15:47 PM »
CoR higher than standard outer core material, nearly the same as 2 piece thick shell balls in lab test.
More durable, lowest warranty claims in the history on balls with DynamiCore.


Then show this data against all your claims including against your competitors! What is the differences, compared to say what Hammer is doing? 4 year warranty is nice but very few people keep a ball 4 years.. Too many balls on the market too many choices. Bowling ball companies are marketing big claims constantly. Not hard to blow this off as just marketing, this is a new thing so your going to have a hard time getting all these warranty claims.

If you can show the data and its legit then I will shake your hand until then its just marketing...

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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 12:22:27 PM »
p.s. But I do think Brunswick is onto something with the D.O.T. thing. Time will tell if it plays out as described but the idea makes sense to me.

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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 12:23:45 PM »
Sure, sure. It's the same claims that has been made by the ball companies since BEFORE I even started bowling.

Lane Masters/Legends talked about how their balls "sounded different" when they hit the pins and how they only used "premium grade A resins" in their construction and how their two piece designs improved the CoR.

When Motiv first came out, they talked up the "Reverb" outer core and how it transfers energy more efficiently to the pins and made a unique sound.

Just a couple of years ago, Hammer went with claiming carbon fiber in their covers made the balls last longer and hit harder because it transferred energy to the pins more efficiently.

So yea, I laugh. Your company has done nothing new. Oh wait, I'm sorry, they moved the pin to a different location. Lordy, what innovation...

You forgot Columbia's HyperShock technology. Also the black core materials in Ebonite and Track backs (the name escapes me).

Good catch! I forgot about them. There are probably others too. These companies just rehash the same ideas over and over.

The only thing that seems somewhat unique is Motiv's Neo Mark graphic, but I've seen some of the older Brunswick balls that look to have the labels made into the cover in a similar way(instead of being engraved), just not as large and extensive as Motiv does. Not that it improves the CoR, sound of ball hitting pins, energy transfer for better pin carry, cover stock durability or the taste of mom's apple pie...
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 01:22:17 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 01:52:55 PM »
Is it still marketing when it's backed by data?

CoR higher than standard outer core material, nearly the same as 2 piece thick shell balls in lab test.
More durable, lowest warranty claims in the history on balls with DynamiCore.
We're innovating new technologies, solving problems bowlers have seen for many years. With DOT and DynamiCore, we're expecting cracking to be almost non existent.

If nothing makes you laugh harder than staffers on ballreviews, then I suggest hitting up a local comedy club once in a while because the joke is on you.

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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2019, 05:06:23 PM »
I feel like kicking a hornet's nest and ganging up.  Even two piece balls aren't the same.  None of my newer quantums hit like my Hy-Road or hell even as good as my nearly 15 year old mid range BVP Rampage (something about that core).  The green is good on oil but nothing amazing carry wise.  Certainly not better than my Warlock XV Solid except on a flood.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2019, 05:09:01 PM »
I feel like kicking a hornet's nest and ganging up.  Even two piece balls aren't the same.  None of my newer quantums hit like my Hy-Road or hell even as good as my nearly 15 year old mid range BVP Rampage (something about that core).  The green is good on oil but nothing amazing carry wise.

Did you try bowling in a lab? Or at least while wearing a lab coat?  ;D
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