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60bowler

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Not Sandbaggin and Vent
« on: October 22, 2012, 06:14:31 PM »
After reading another post here about scratch bowlers in handicap brackets, I have a question or statement depending on how you read or feel about it.
There is a male bowler that bowls at a house that does not take care of their lanes and could care less what kind of shot they put out.  I have bowled there and I struggle to hit or even average 180.  My average at where I bowl now is 209, I usually average 200+ in other houses and or tournaments,(I can't say that for the nationals.)
To get back to the story, this bowler comes into any tournament with a 170 to 175 average.  He has never averaged less than 200+ in any tournament.  I keep reading his name in state and local tournaments always at or near the top in any handicap section. Is this fair?  Should he be re-rated prior to the tournament?. All the tournament bowlers knows this person and always complain about them being in the brackets and side pots.

 

EagleHunter

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Re: Not Sandbaggin and Vent
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 09:29:18 PM »
Is it fair?  Depends...are you or any other bowler allowed to bowl in that particular house?  If the answer is yes, than of course it is fair.  Just because you or any other bowler CHOOSE not to bowl there does not mean it isn't fair.

As for the re-rate issue...any tournament director can re-rate ANY bowler for ANY reason at ANY time.  It is the tournament director's job to handle re-rates.

Average is just a number...that largely depends on the condition of the house and lane conditions.  Make them tougher and you may be 180.  Make them stupid easy and you may be 230.  So which one should you use?  Should it depend on the lane condition being used or the condition of the house?

txbowler

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Re: Not Sandbaggin and Vent
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 03:07:54 PM »
The scenario you describe is why USBC is going to start tracking tournament scores and post them on bowl.com as part of your average.  So if your house average is 175 and your tournament average is 210, it will be on display for tournament managers to review and use in their tournament rules as an "highest" book average once you have accumulated say 21 tournament games within the last 2-3 years.

Makes it much harder to sandbag and also points out house inconsistencies such as the poster indicated above.

Up to each tournament to implement the rules though.  USBC just providing the information and all sanctioned tournaments are required to submit scores.