Post by: LuckyLefty on September 03, 2003, 05:51:40 PM
Last night we had 5 lefties on a pair. 5 righties too!
Typically in my practice sessions at this house I had a pretty tough time in practice as the shot was so wet.
Last night the shot opened up during practice and then changed in a pretty gradual consistent way! Did not shoot big, but could have shot medium big if I wasn't feeling out ball reactions and first night get used to everything.
What are you righties complaing about again?
Looking forward to a shot that opens up all night! Is this what it's like to be a righty? Always have backend and just have to move your feet a little all night!? Or as I like to say when I watch you guys. Stomp left, fling right!
Now for us guys stomp right, fling left!
OH boy!
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS 3 on my team two on others.
Post by: LuckyLefty on September 04, 2003, 09:22:02 AM
Oh the righties were hootin and hollerin last night before the start!
They were gonna tear it up.
Funny as the night went on our eyes got as big as saucers("is this what it's like to be a righty? Boundless backend?").
The righties got real silent as we went up during the night and they flattened out and went down.
It looked like they were having problems moving their feet one of their vaunted abilities?
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: Strider on September 04, 2003, 09:22:50 AM
On edit, I've seen many of your posts, but I've never seen the lefties not have any backend. I've seen quite a few who weren't capable of generating on their own, but that's a different story.
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Edited on 9/4/2003 9:33 AM
Post by: LuckyLefty on September 04, 2003, 10:03:14 AM
Last season I bowled in league that had no backend many of the weeks.
Rightys would have 15 boards with scout reactives we would have two with AMF Evolution Extra's. I would have twice as much revs.
Now last night it was a fair fight! They lost!
REgards,
Luckylefty
during the above nightmare season I bowled 25 sets with other lefties.
I was the high lefty except in 3 instances. Including against a 221 bowler.
It seemed the pairs differed all over the house. We followed a backup ball and plastic league and they reoiled and pretended to strip but it seemed you just got a lot of head oil and whatever backend was leftover.
When a regional came in and put a short oil pattern out, that left most of the amateurs flustered into the 400 + area I shot about 660 scratch. Then the regional shot looked easier than my league shot.
Edited on 9/4/2003 10:13 AM
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 10:42:15 AM
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 10:51:08 AM
Let them go on a bash us because it makes them feel better.
The other day, some cat (righty) said to me "When you bowl here, what percentage of time do you know when the ball leaves you hand do you know it's going to be in the pocket?" I said I really had never thought of it and he said "For lefties, it's about 90% of the time, for us it's about 50% of the time". Funny, this cat averages 228, had more 800's and 300's then anyone in the house last year. What a joke! This cat has no idea how easy this house is on the right.
It's just human nature for most people to make an excuse for someone beating them. If it wasn't the lefties, it would be the crankers, tweeners, strighties.
When a lefty wins, it's because they have a wall, if a righty wins, it's because they are good.
I bowled as a sub in a new house last year and we had 5 lefties and only 3 righties (4-man team). They were so excited about not having to move and made jokes about us fighting it. A certin lefty shot 300, 780.
Post by: 1fife on September 04, 2003, 11:20:18 AM
but what about nights it moves 20 boards. Havent seen to many lefties walking around ball return or throwing over gutter caps. HAVE YOU?
and thats was only 5 lefties
we usually have 8 or 9 righties also
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Dont swing it-if you cant bring it
When in doubt-swing it out
Post by: KMAN300 on September 04, 2003, 11:55:28 AM
you have to admit 85% of the lefties out there play outside of ten board!!FACT!!
AND WHY? BECAUSE THEY CAN! YOU CAN'T BLAME THEM OR PICK ON THEM FOR THAT.
ITS A GREAT LINE AND IT CARRIES WELL. IF I AS A RIGHTY COULD PLAY OUT THERE I WOULD.
Meanwhile you see the righties all over trying to find some kind of shot that wont change every other frame. I just hate the fact that the left handers wont admit the fact that on 90% of all shots out there its easier to score when your not moving all over to keep you ball from hooking to early or over skidding because of carrydown! FACT!
ITS JUST COMMON SENSE IF YOU WALK UP TO THE LANE AND MOST OF THE TIME, NOT HAVING TO MOVE BUT A FEW BOARDS ALL NIGHT YOU WOULD DEFINITLEY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE!
ONCE AGAIN FACT!!
Post by: Pinbuster on September 04, 2003, 12:09:27 PM
He would have bowled even more 700's but his skirt got in the way.
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 12:10:43 PM
Post by: Game In a BoxLC on September 04, 2003, 12:47:22 PM
silly me i forgot lefties were supposed to be fudgers when i learned to bowl
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am i still considered a lefty, i never get to play the left side of the lane
Post by: Game In a BoxLC on September 04, 2003, 12:59:30 PM
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am i still considered a lefty, i never get to play the left side of the lane
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 01:05:20 PM
Righties are just better! Earl Anthony sucked and he couldn't score unless he had a wall. PBIII, please, that cat is a joke, Alby, Cook, Couch, Patraglia? None of these cats could win if the right side was as easy as the left.
So what do righties say when it's fresh and only 4 bowlers on a pair? Oh, I forgot, the righties screw each other up and will not play the same line.
A friend who is a lefty, changed to righty and averaged over 210 with each hand. We bowled a tournament in Dallas not long ago together. There were several squads to qualify and he had a marathon entry to bowl every squad. After about six attemps as a lefty, he practiced throwing the ball right handed. He has a good line and said that if didn't qualify the next attempt that he'd bowl a set as a righty. Lucky for him, he qualified.
When it came to the semi-finals, the lefties didn't have nothing and we could not blow a hole in the shot. It was a four game deal. After two games, he switched and was +63 as a righty for two and was -16 as a lefty.
Us lefies don't get respect because we don't deserve it, we are just lucky that we're left handed or we'd all suck
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 01:36:56 PM
Post by: Rantings on September 04, 2003, 01:56:11 PM
I can believe certain houses favor lefties but let's not be ignorant here, the righties have an advantage at SOME houses also. Why can't we all just get along? Because Lefties are the only one's in their right mind.
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Bowling is for sissies..ask Bones...
Post by: Game In a BoxLC on September 04, 2003, 01:59:12 PM
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am i still considered a lefty, i never get to play the left side of the lane
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 02:07:10 PM
Geez, I must really suck, I"m been lefty all of my life and have never booked 228. I think I'll just quit.
Here is something to think about. I shot 740 the other night. I threw the ball pretty good but had one shot that I missed left by a few boards and it came back and struck, another ball, I tugged a few and it held enough to trip out the 6. On the most part, the other balls were pretty close (within a board or two). But you should have heard the righites cry. "Geez, Hose has the whole lane"
Not long ago, one of the highest average righties wanted to see how accurate we were. We put sheets of paper one both sides about the 40 foot mark. After about 8 balls we picked them up. His had an area about 6 inches wide and mine had one about three. His scores were, xxx,9/,8/,xxx. Mine were 9/,81,x,8/,xx,9/,9/. He hit the pocket more then I did, yet wasn't as accurate. I haven't heard a word from him about me having "everything" and him having nothing.
My point is this, it's not hard to learn to bowl as a lefty (Brent pointed that out to us). If it's really that much easier, why are not more doing it?
I can assure you, if I thought that if was an overwhelming advantage to bowl as a righty, I'd learn.
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 02:07:39 PM
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 02:08:48 PM
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 02:34:09 PM
quote:
ball speed 18 mph,high track-High End Tweener
300's-10
800's-4
2002 ave-228
favorite balls X-Factor,X-Factor Reloaded,Cherry Bomb And Freak Out
high track-pap 5.25" over and 0.25" up
Dude, you must really bowl in a Brickyard, only 10-300's and a 228 average?
You must really be great at splitting boards.
Are your really Walter Ray or Norm Duke?
Let me ask you this? Are you a PBA member? What region? What is your PBA average? A board splitter like yourself must be one of the best in the world.
Congrats, you have every right to bash lefties, you've proved our greatness.
Rags, I would only be able to send you one ball if I quit. Lefties only need to throw one ball everywhere we go. All we have to do is fluff anywhere outside 10 and we strike.
Sorry, I'm still laughing. I tweener who has to loft gutter caps. Now that is funny.
Post by: Strider on September 04, 2003, 02:34:38 PM
quote:
When it came to the semi-finals, the lefties didn't have nothing and we could not blow a hole in the shot. It was a four game deal. After two games, he switched and was +63 as a righty for two and was -16 as a lefty.
Hose, is it legal to qualify with one hand, then change in the middle of competition? Is this ABC, or PBA competition? I know if you want to bowl with each hand, you have to establish an average with each hand and pay for 2 separate cards.
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Penn State Proud ......THB with loft
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 02:39:58 PM
whatever
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 02:46:25 PM
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 02:56:23 PM
Any reason why you refuse to answer my questions?
Strider, this was not an ABC tournament.
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 03:07:21 PM
Post by: Rantings on September 04, 2003, 03:24:50 PM
Hose competes at the PBA regional level.
Lefties all,
Let's see if brent's leftsided mind can absorb this info.
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Bowling is for sissies..ask Bones...
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 03:27:50 PM
j/k dude.Most house shots are pretty easy reguardless of which side you throw from.
I'm only assuming that your 228 average is on a house shot and an easy one at that. I really have no way of know other then your honesty.
I have ask you questions in which you have decided not to answer for some reason.
We all need to face facts, house condtions are easier then tour or sport shots. We don't have to split boards in order to hit the pocket.
Another story, a guy named Scroggins, Rick Lawerence, and a few other PBA lefties and myself bowled a deal a few weeks ago. We all bowled a 4 game block the last set before they re ran lanes for the semi-final matches. Almost all of us were between 150 and 200 over for 4. They ran the lanes and the top lefty was +20 for 4. Did we all of a sudden suck? I'll not put myself in Scroggs catagory but even he couldn't play on it.
It's all about the laneman, he can make us look good or make us look stupid.
Post by: LuckyLefty on September 04, 2003, 03:38:05 PM
Hmmm,,, This has become an interesting conversation!
Eh!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: Psychoballtester on September 04, 2003, 03:45:13 PM
This is one of the better post I've seen in 2 hours!
Um,me I like to use both hands(aka I mean one at a time of coarse).
Hey!Obviously my left sucks more than my right,but I think its cool to
have an EMERGENCY hand/arm to bowl with.
Soooo,if someone has any problems with lefties,just become a lefty yourself
and ya got the BEST of both worlds!!!!!I bowl left handed "once" a week,no matter if the shot is walled or not.
YGAAFTTABL!!!!!!!!!
I hope you guys resolve your LEFTY vs RIGHTY crisis.
I'm done!Be cool!
I gotta go reply somewherze elze.
Psycho.B.T
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 03:59:45 PM
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Hose, now I know you're lying. I thought the only thing Scroggins couldn't play was the gravel road behind the bowling alley.
Exactly my point. They were nasty.
BTW, DJ Archer(righty) was 290 over for four after the run. 272 is a pretty good average.
Post by: MrH on September 04, 2003, 04:00:15 PM
MrH
PS to brenttsr: I think my house plant rivals you in the intelligence category.
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 04:19:17 PM
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 04:41:23 PM
Dude, I'm not trying to bash you. I'd just like to have a little more info. to help you out.
Most good righties do understand that there are sometimes when we have the world and sometimes when we are shut out as is the right side. Many times I've had righties say to me "Geez, you guys have nothing". It's nice that they notice it as I do when I see that I have a great look when they don't.
Not long a go there was a SASBA (Southweast Senior Tour) Member/Guest in Dallas. There were a bunch of great lefties in the field, many of which bowled good in the sweeper the night before. The next day, they were shut out.
Do you really think they suck?
You have some repect for Scroggs, where did he finish on the money list? 40th? 19 stops and 35,000. PBIII went from winning 265,000 to 89,000.
Does he really suck on the new patterns but had a wall on the old ones?
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 04:54:19 PM
Post by: Rantings on September 04, 2003, 04:54:58 PM
brent: Dumbfounded righthander who knows all about bowling..just ask him.
Rags: Using the "father knows best" approach on explaining the facts of life.
(Even though he, himself, is righthanded.)
All others: Just enjoying the entertainment of seeing to vets do a battle of wits with an unarmed righthander.
Does this sum up this so far?
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Bowling is for sissies..ask Bones...
Edited on 9/4/2003 5:15 PM
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 05:01:47 PM
Post by: Jerry Weller on September 04, 2003, 05:17:19 PM
Meanwhile the lefty you are bowling against never has to move all night. Yeah sometimes he's shut out because the lanes are so oily - but that happens maybe once a year where I bowl. The rest of the year he has a great fresh shot all night long.
Five lefties who actually realize that moving their feet will help them stay in the pocket and all on the same lane is mindboggling. Next thing you know I'll even hear about the concepts of changing the target board, ball speed or hand position.
Seriously, I've seen lefties averaging 200+ struggle when there were only 2 of them on a pair playing the same line.
Edited on 9/4/2003 5:34 PM
Post by: The Hose on September 04, 2003, 05:20:32 PM
This may have cause some of the conflict.
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and dont forget lucky lefty you guys get to close your eyes also
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and had a high average of 228,he even said bowling on the left is a joke.you hit the hole just as long as you dont trip.
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all you lefties that think your good should go on tour then you will realize how much you really suck
All of these things could be true about righties as well. If you average 228, it shows me that you are a good bowler, even if it's on a house shot, that you see bowlers on both sides of the lanes that spray the ball everywhere but still hit the pocket. I too grew up in the 70's when you had to make a good shot, now we don't. Go back a few pages and read a post of mine "Good scores are fun, but don't fool yourself"
I wanted to know if you had experienced tour shots (other then E pattern) or sport shots to see how you did but you didn't want to answer that. It's cool, resect people for their shot making and not bash someone or stereotype every lefty.
Post by: brenttsr on September 04, 2003, 05:51:18 PM