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Mighty Fish

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A bowler who has been an ABC/USBC member for more than six decades and has bowled in 55 national tournaments -- Paul Gustke of Sarasota, Fla. -- has some interesting comments about USBC and the direction of the modern-day game.

http://www.examiner.com/article/with-55-usbc-tournaments-under-his-belt-gustke-has-concerns-about-state-of-game

 

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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2013, 05:19:28 PM »
Long Gone Daddy, so was Fish booted from the USBC forum or not? You seem to say yes and Fish says no. One of you has to be wrong and I would tend to believe Fish unless you can prove otherwise. Besides you don't seem to be too credible in this forum anyway.

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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2013, 07:57:26 PM »
Little stalker, don't ever make the mistake of thinking I care one way or another what you think about anybody or anything.  You seem to be wasting time going down that path.  Find something better to do with your life.  You're wasting what few years you have left, old man.
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2013, 04:05:31 PM »
On Further,
     If Fish wasn't banned from the Bowl.com forums, he should have been, especially after the anti-Semetic post he made. I am sure the only reason he wasn't was because the USBC didn't want to deal with the stink he would have raised even if he was legitimately banned. Fish even fought for the inclusion of posters who could go through a single post without violating the TOS of those forums, and he continually posted how they were "silenced" because they disagreed with the USBC. He is a one note song who bravely posts things about the "horrors of the USBC" but refuses to answer questions posed directly to him, as he has done in this very thread.
 
Are you the same way? Will you answer questions? If you agree with Mr. Gutske, and the dead Fish, have you gone to your local convention center board and pushed them to make a proposal to host the USBC Open tournament? If not, why not? And if you refuse to do it, why should you or anyone else who refused to do it be upset that the tournament is in Reno so much? Or in the "West" so much? If you won't get off your collective butts to do anything, then it's no wonder the tournament is held where it costs the USBC the least, at the NBS in Reno. How much would you and dead Fish complain if they held it places where it wasn't bid on but cost more??? Or if they raised the National dues for the first time in 6 years because of it?? You guys would go ballistic. So you can't have it both ways. I will await your answers, as well as those of the dead Fish, but I doubt they will be forthcoming from him.
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2013, 06:58:52 PM »
 ;) :) :D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Laughing my ass off.  Neither one will answer, Jorge.  Not their style.
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 09:20:43 PM »
Lol everytime I see that LGD has responded to a topic, I have to look.  It's always entertaining.  Wasn't disappointed, lol, carry on. 
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2013, 09:32:42 PM »
Hold up guys cause I just ran out of popcorn!!! lol I don't agree with what USBC does, but can I do better? Do I have anything positive to offer to them? I'm an older bowler and I didn't want to go last year to Reno, but I watched online and missed it and wish I had gone! I'm planning on going next year, even though I hate going to Reno! I don't mind going to Las Vegas only because to me I have more options of things to do. I'm not a gambler, but I guess in a sense I am, with going that far to bowl!!! LGD is entertaining and I kind of enjoy his post and how he gets these others so wound up!! I'll use his classic line, "Move along, there nothing to see here!" Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2013, 12:23:21 AM »
He is a one note song who bravely posts things about the "horrors of the USBC" but refuses to answer questions posed directly to him, as he has done in this very thread.

he did that in the thread about averages at Nationals also, questions I posed. Anything that he has to answer that may harm is USBC witch hunt goes unanswered.

All I see is a bitter old bowler. Sorry Mighty that is the image you have given me and unfortunately Mr. Gustke as well
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2013, 07:43:14 AM »
The USBC sucks, we can all agree on that, but when you're still looking at what you get for what you pay, that's where most people aren't too concerned. However, they have responsibilities they're not upholding.  They're supposed to be the governing body of the sport, and what they've really fallen down to is a teacher that's lost control of the classroom.  Yeah, having sanctioned averages and bonding prize funds to me is worth 10 lousy bucks, but I'd rather pay more and have a better sport. 
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2013, 09:14:00 AM »
If Fish wasn't banned from the Bowl.com forums, he should have been, especially after the anti-Semetic post he made.

WHAT!?   ??? 

How could anyone incorporate anti-semitism into the USBC boards? 
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2013, 07:32:08 AM »
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2013, 11:54:11 AM »
Oh Fish, here fishy fishy fishy.....time to answer a question.....
 
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2013, 03:21:47 PM »
Fishwrap is busy digging up more dirt on the USBC.  I heard they replaced the free mint jar on the receptionists desk at USBC HQ with a quarter machine dispensing M & M's. in a cost cutting move and he is just beside himself.  Onfurtherrevamp?  Who gives a damn?  Just a mindless stalker troll. 
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2013, 11:19:41 AM »
The problem here is that bowling does not learn from its history. There is a fine line between moving agressively as possible and staying behind without keeping the line of scoring equality the same. ABC/USBC is not and never has been in the business of maintaining integrity. So now there are so many award scores that USBC can not afford to maintain awarding them all. And bowlers everywhere that have seen "the good times" are offended.

As for costs, there is nothing that can be done. Inflation hits everything including winnings. It is what it is.
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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2013, 08:49:01 PM »
Oh Fish, here fishy fishy fishy.....time to answer a question......
Dear Jorge300:

I haven't been in these forums for most of this week, but anyway, what is your question?

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Re: 60-year USBC member speaks out on direction of modern-day game
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2013, 08:51:17 PM »
Fishwrap is busy digging up more dirt on the USBC.
Dear Long Gone Daddy:

There is plenty of "dirt" to dig up ... but can you refute ANYTHING that I have ever stated about ABC/USBC?