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six pack

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Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« on: December 28, 2017, 12:29:40 PM »
For one league I bowl in it seems you get punished using stronger equipment. A whole lot of splits and very strange leaves despite how good the ball looks going off the deck. Itls not just me as I see other bowlers constantly get punished in this house. On the other hand I also see low rev up and in bowlers do very well topping the ball and throwing a straight shot and carry pretty good so Im putting the reactive stuff away and going urethane only. Anyone else have ever had the same issues in a particular house? I would rather grind out games instead of the ordeal of leaving pins on the deck.
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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2017, 01:56:10 PM »

As has been mentioned, the flat gutters (depth) and kick-backs are major contributors to scoring.
 

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2017, 04:23:39 PM »
I felt the same way. My strongest ball for league is a Hustle Ink, then a Super Natural, and the Ride. The Hustle Ink is just too much ball that I have to put it away during the first game. I just got a Black Widow Urethane, thinking that this way the answer to all my problems. Finally got it after waiting almost a month, and bowled with it for the first time in league. Needless to say that it didn't work out so well and had to go back to the Ride.  The BW wasn't carrying no matter where I played and kept leaving single pins or splits.
Any  suggestions for a surface change? It just has a very light coat of polish on it at the moment.

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2017, 05:05:18 PM »
...Any  suggestions for a surface change? It just has a very light coat of polish on it at the moment.
I hate polish. :)

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2017, 12:23:28 AM »
I felt the same way. My strongest ball for league is a Hustle Ink, then a Super Natural, and the Ride. The Hustle Ink is just too much ball that I have to put it away during the first game. I just got a Black Widow Urethane, thinking that this way the answer to all my problems. Finally got it after waiting almost a month, and bowled with it for the first time in league. Needless to say that it didn't work out so well and had to go back to the Ride.  The BW wasn't carrying no matter where I played and kept leaving single pins or splits.
Any  suggestions for a surface change? It just has a very light coat of polish on it at the moment.

I would try 500 or 1000 on your widow. urethane is about early mid lane and a calm backend. carry is another thing but since I cant carry with the strong stuff I would be happy with makeable spares. be ready to grind and be left out when the scoring frenzy hits,you will be on the outside looking in.
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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2017, 10:55:17 AM »
Typical house shot gives so much over under on the oil line that urethane is a good option for many styles.  On flatter patterns, the length of the oil is more determinative in choice between resin and urethane

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2017, 02:19:56 PM »
Maybe the house with better carry has these installed.  --  JohnP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJUpjemtRk

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2017, 05:36:56 PM »
I finish with maroon scotch brites on virtually all my urethane (use coarser for Red Razor and much higher grit for Ogre).
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2017, 08:36:16 PM »
Maybe the house with better carry has these installed.  --  JohnP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJUpjemtRk

two other houses I bowl in must have those.... not.
I have a hyroad nano and a street fight that I really like but not in the problem house. I've tried all sorts of reactive with same results spanning 3 years and I'm 15 pins lower in average in the problem house. you keep it up ten to 15 board you can shoot decent, anywhere else and the carry is baffling despite how well the ball enters the pocket. reactive wont allow me to play there for very long. I'm giving up on reactive in the problem house and going urethane.
I have a storm thunderflash that I hit with a maroon scotchbrite and an original black hammer in 1000 grit and have my eye on the black hammer remake.

BTW I think the issue is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrEgZkwvazQ
« Last Edit: December 31, 2017, 08:38:39 PM by six pack »
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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2018, 10:50:20 PM »
shot 2 games over with the T Flash and 1 game under with the Black Hammer, a little surface tweaking and I think I'll be set. I really enjoyed bowling in this house with the urethane as it felt I could make shots and not be punished. the other bowler's on my pair had some issues with bad leaves that I didn't have,house dose not have twister pins so I'm lost to the reasons why the strange leaves.
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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2018, 12:50:41 PM »
I agree with Avabob. Your release style is by far the overwhelming factor in determining ball motion. It also dictates the type of equipment that works best for your particular release style. I am speed dominant. Therefore, 99.9% of the conditions I bowl on
demand that I use resin equipment.  I almost never get over-under reactions on THS due to my speed and straighter trajectory, but many of my teammates do . 

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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2018, 03:01:55 PM »
Whenever I need reminding why I have reactives I take my 16lb Red Razor out like I did today.  With perfect throws it crushes racks as hard as any ball I have ever seen minus the Quantum Helix but man it also leaves more pocket splits than any of my other balls by a long shot.  I have to really earn a nasty leave with my Hy-Road but my Red Razor gives me at least 2 non baby splits a game (I don't tend to throw many splits due to my style).  Like Bergman I probably should own at most one urethane ball if at all but for whatever reason fell in love with old urethane.  Its not what I use to score though.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 03:08:09 PM by HackJandy »
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Re: Im putting the resin reactive equipment away
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2018, 05:38:09 PM »
I went back to an old Hammer urethane three years ago. It works fine on any lane condition and i like its consistent roll. My carry and makeable spare percentages are so much better vs the reactives. It's kind of nice just lugging around one ball now too. Haha!