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thewhiz

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Abralon Pads
« on: May 20, 2017, 01:20:57 AM »
How long does an Abralon Pad last?  Seems like I only get a few uses out of mine.  I have a spinner and if I use it on there to do my ball after a half-dozen times the pad is done.  I wet it before each use also.
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 09:12:30 AM »
might want to try and get a spray bottle with water and spray the ball while you sand it.
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leftybowler70

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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 09:14:13 AM »
+1thats what I do, and they last a little longer.
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charlest

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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 09:44:09 AM »
4000 grit pads last 3-5 uses. Period. You can tell with 4000 more easily than other grits, because when it's done, the result is a polished finish rather than a dull one. (Siaair pads last a little longer, say 4-7 uses.)

Duller grits last a little longer, but it's harder to tell when they migrate to a finer grit level.
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thewhiz

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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 10:40:49 AM »
That's crazy those things  should last longer than that. 
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Steven

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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 11:15:14 AM »
Quote from: charlest on May 20, 2017, 09:44:09 AM
4000 grit pads last 3-5 uses. Period. You can tell with 4000 more easily than other grits, because when it's done, the result is a polished finish rather than a dull one. (Siaair pads last a little longer, say 4-7 uses.)

Duller grits last a little longer, but it's harder to tell when theymigra5te to a finer grit level.

 
The above is pretty accurate. At the lower grits, I rarely get more than 10 uses out of a pad. I'll average 7 uses from a Siiair pad before it's evident that the original grit is at least degraded. 
 
Crazy or not, that's the life span of these abrasives.
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itsallaboutme

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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 11:42:30 AM »
For the price of Abralon pads learn to like wet/dry paper.  It may not be as cool, but for what it costs you don't mind using a fresh corner every time you touch the ball.

Save the pads for by hand surface adjustments when you don't have access to a spinner.
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 06:58:42 PM »
Not sure what wet dry paper is.  You mean sand paper?  Is that the same as Abralon pads?
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charlest

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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2017, 07:13:58 PM »
Quote from: thewhiz on May 20, 2017, 06:58:42 PM
Not sure what wet dry paper is.  You mean sand paper?  Is that the same as Abralon pads?

Wet/dry sandpaper is sandpaper that can be used wet. It usually has a stronger paper or cloth material than sandpaper meant for dry sanding; wet/dry sandpaper usually uses silicon carbide as the abrasive.

It is not the same as Abralon, but uses the same abrasive. Sandpaper usually comes in the full range of grits, from 30/40 to 5000 grit, whereas Abralon, Siaair and Jost pads come in a much smaller range of grit levels.
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM »
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to experiment with different types of things, you never know what will work/ not work.
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2017, 09:28:20 PM »
I'm interested in getting my hands on some ICE pads. New finishing system from 900 Global and it's replacing the NEAT system. I is 1500, C is 2000, E is 3000.
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2017, 04:47:22 AM »
Quote from: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to
Quote from: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to experiment with different types of things, you never know what will work/ not work.

I can only guess it's a matter of pressure. The harder you press, the faster the abrasive particles break down. If you recall on of the Abrasive pad videos, only very light pressure caused the pad to create a surface closest to the actual grit level.

On the other hand, since I use so many balls at 4000 grit, they need touching up constantly. Many times I don't use the spinner, except as a base to do the refreshing of the surface by hand, with a damp pad.
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2017, 10:45:43 AM »
Quote from: charlest on May 21, 2017, 04:47:22 AM
Quote from: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to
Quote from: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to experiment with different types of things, you never know what will work/ not work.

I can only guess it's a matter of pressure. The harder you press, the faster the abrasive particles break down. If you recall on of the Abrasive pad videos, only very light pressure caused the pad to create a surface closest to the actual grit level.

On the other hand, since I use so many balls at 4000 grit, they need touching up constantly. Many times I don't use the spinner, except as a base to do the refreshing of the surface by hand, with a damp pad.

I'm a believer in using light pressure, but I usually use firm pressure if using a 360 if totally redoing a ball, then medium pressure with the next grit, and finally very light pressure for the finish grit.

Charlest, I haven't seen the videos you're referring to.  Any chance you can direct me to them?
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2017, 12:21:21 PM »
Quote from: duvallite on May 21, 2017, 10:45:43 AM
Quote from: charlest on May 21, 2017, 04:47:22 AM
Quote from: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to
Quote from: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Jeff, you must find some very good Abralon pads at 4000, because for the life of me, I can not get more than 1 USE out of a Abralon pad.   Now for the siaair pads, it's a DIFFERENT story, I can get 3-6 uses out of that type ; It's so good to experiment with different types of things, you never know what will work/ not work.

I can only guess it's a matter of pressure. The harder you press, the faster the abrasive particles break down. If you recall one of the Abrasive pad videos, only very light pressure caused the pad to create a surface closest to the actual grit level.

On the other hand, since I use so many balls at 4000 grit, they need touching up constantly. Many times I don't use the spinner, except as a base to do the refreshing of the surface by hand, with a damp pad.

I'm a believer in using light pressure, but I usually use firm pressure if using a 360 if totally redoing a ball, then medium pressure with the next grit, and finally very light pressure for the finish grit.

Charlest, I haven't seen the videos you're referring to.  Any chance you can direct me to them?

Sorry, I didn't save it. I think it was by either Innovative or Jayhawk. It showed the application of a 750 grit pad to a ball and the various grit results when scanned by the Ball Surface Scanner. So, it was probably Jayhawk. Check out their 2 videos on this page for the Surface Scanner:
http://www.shop.jayhawkbowling.com/Jayhawk-Ball-Surface-Scanner-15-7000.htm
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Re: Abralon Pads
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2017, 04:09:37 PM »
Thanks, I'll give them a look.
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