win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again  (Read 19815 times)

qstick777

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5188
AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« on: November 15, 2012, 11:10:23 AM »

http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Bankruptcy/News/2012/11_-_November/AMF_Bowling_files_for_bankruptcy_again/

Nov 13 (Reuters) - AMF Bowling Worldwide Inc, the world's largest bowling alley operator, on Tuesday filed for bankruptcy protection for the second time in 12 years, saying recent economic weakness has cost it business and left it with an unmanageable debt burden.

The Mechanicsville, Virginia-based company said it has agreed on a plan to significantly reduce its debt and turn over control to its lenders, enabling it to emerge from Chapter 11 before the end of April 2013.

AMF and 15 affiliates sought protection from creditors in the U.S. bankruptcy court in Richmond, Virginia. It said it had between $100 million and $500 million of both assets and liabilities.

The company said it operates 270 bowling centers in the United States and Mexico - more than three times as many as its nearest rival. It also said it has more than 20 million customers a year and employs about 7,000 people.

AMF Chief Financial Officer Stephen Satterwhite said in a court filing the company has been unable to sufficiently reduce costs to combat falling revenue, amid a 36 percent decline in large U.S. bowling league memberships since 1998.

"Unfortunately for AMF, the lasting effects of the recession and economic downturn have proven too difficult to overcome," he said.

Satterwhite said AMF had hired Moelis & Co to help sell its assets, but that the efforts proved unsuccessful as purchasers expressed concern about restrictions under lease agreements with iStar Financial Inc, AMF's main landlord.

The restructuring calls for Credit Suisse AG and other first-lien lenders to convert their claims into all the equity in a reorganized company, and for modifications to be made to the iStar leases, court papers show.

Lenders would also provide $150 million of financing to help AMF operate after emerging from Chapter 11.

AMF said it has lined up $50 million of financing to keep operating now, and that customers should see no difference.

The company also said its restructuring is subject to better offers from third parties in a court-supervised sales process.

AMF's roots date to 1900, when it was known as American Machine & Foundry Co and made equipment for the tobacco industry.

The company in 1946 introduced the automated pinspotter, which allowed the bowling pins to be reset automatically rather than by hand. For many years, AMF also sold recreational products such as Ben Hogan golf clubs and Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

AMF had previously filed for protection from creditors in July 2001 and emerged from bankruptcy the following year.

The case is In re: AMF Bowling Worldwide Inc, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of Virginia, No. 12-36495.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

With pricing at $5+ per game, is anybody surprised?

I can take my family to a 3D movie with popcorn and drinks for less than it costs to bowl......and at least the movie will kill 2 hours!


 

rockerbowler18

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1352
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2012, 05:48:08 PM »
The prices are honestly not way outrageous if you're just an open play bowler. They're a little expensive, but Nike shoes are a little pricey and people continue to buy them.

My point is - the brand has an issue, not the product. They don't do what's best for the bowlers to get people in the door like they used to, especially not in these economic conditions. If they can't lower their prices, they need to up their product. For example: better staff, more well maintained centers and lanes, and more bowlers on the staff who know what their customer needs/wants.

For those who don't know, AMF has a policy that their centers cannot oil the first 18-24" of the lane because open bowlers go past the foul line and slip. This is a stupid policy, has drastically dropped scores in my house (and I'm sure others) and made a lot of people mad.

If a giant, thick black line wasn't enough to stop the average moron, then what good is an invisible line that most people can't see going to do? Magically stop them? No. They're going to continue to slip. This is just one example. AMF needs to cater to bowlers and stop catering to people who only bowl occasionally - especially in states where the "casual" bowler has options outdoors such as baseball/frisbee/golf year round in Florida, California, Texas, and similar states.

charlest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24523
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2012, 06:53:57 PM »
Seriously use a real bank over the centers, in situations like this why would you want to depend on the USBC to step in when all else fails and a center goes under when you can prevent it.


That's exactly what I intend to propose to my league's officers.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

kidlost2000

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5789
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2012, 07:22:47 PM »
"For those who don't know, AMF has a policy that their centers cannot oil the first 18-24" of the lane because open bowlers go past the foul line and slip. This is a stupid policy, has drastically dropped scores in my house (and I'm sure others) and made a lot of people mad."

How long has this been in place because I've never experienced this in any AMF centers I've bowled in. I'd imagine you'd want to throw the ball straight or loft it in order to play that kind of condition.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

tommyboy74

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1826
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2012, 07:41:28 PM »
I've never seen anyone slip or fall in an AMF house.  And my driller is based at an AMF house, so I'm in there quite a bit.  Don't forget they have the warnings stuck on the lane at the foul line too.
Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

Smash49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2136
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2012, 04:29:41 PM »
The problem with bowling is automatic scoring.  To replace old automatic scoring with new is $135,000 for 24 lanes.  In the days of CRT monitors they never shut off even when not in use.  Electric bills for a 48 lane center can range from $10,000 to $12,000 a month.  Most of the energy is going toward scoring.  How many lines of bowling have to be played to cover the electric bill alone?  Thus we have the high priced games.  Cases of pins are around $120.  It takes at least 2 cases per setter to run correctly.  Multiply that by however many lanes and figure replacing at least once a year.  Resurfacing 24 lanes and approaches for wood is around $15,000 to $20,000 replacing with synthetics $135,000.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it is expensive to own a bowling center.  If you could get rid of automatic scoring you wouldn't need 48 computers at 350 watts and 48 monitors at 100 watts usage.  You might actually be able to put money into air conditioning and fixing a roof.

Smash49
Top 100 Coaches by Bowler's Journal International 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012!  Outstanding Coach in the state of Texas by Bowler's Journal International 2006.
IBPSIA Certified Pro Shop Technician
SLSM Designs Bowling Accessories.
www.bowlersslidesock.com

kidlost2000

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5789
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2012, 04:43:24 PM »
There is a lot of ways to save money, power consumption on CRTs isn't as much an issue for most centers these days using LCD panels with half or less the power draw. Typically I don't hear the manager of the local center complaining about the electric bill. Lane maintenance, yes.

You want to change automatic scoring not replace it. It would be easy for every center to have the large scoring system similar to nationals at the cost of one projector per two lanes. You only need the software that sends the scoring signal to the projector in split screen mode like when playing video games on your home systems and it divides the screen for two player mode.

That simple little change in software would allow you to get rid of all your monitors and have just the projector hitting the wall/backdrop down lane. It would have a very new and cool look that league and open bowlers would like. Automatic scoring is what your open bowlers these days want/need.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

milorafferty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11153
  • I have a name, therefore no preferred pronouns.
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2012, 04:50:53 PM »
With a Virtual Machine set up, there would be no need for the 48 computers either. One would do the job, maybe have a second on standby just in case but that would be all.
"If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?"

"If you don't stand for our flag, then don't expect me to give a damn about your feelings."

rockerbowler18

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1352
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2012, 08:15:25 PM »
"For those who don't know, AMF has a policy that their centers cannot oil the first 18-24" of the lane because open bowlers go past the foul line and slip. This is a stupid policy, has drastically dropped scores in my house (and I'm sure others) and made a lot of people mad."

How long has this been in place because I've never experienced this in any AMF centers I've bowled in. I'd imagine you'd want to throw the ball straight or loft it in order to play that kind of condition.

I didn't bowl for almost 2 years beginning in October 2010, and when I came back the rule was already in effect.

I noticed there was never any oil in the heads, and when I went to tell them something was wrong with the machine, the manager told me that was intentional and it was AMF policy. I really wish they had just gone with the stickers like it sounds some houses back east have done, but out here in California, I was told the first 18-24 inches couldn't be oiled for safety reasons.

kidlost2000

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5789
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2012, 09:06:52 PM »
"18-24 inches couldn't be oiled for safety reasons."

The country is always trying to protect stupid instead of letting them die or seriously be injured as intended by nature.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

tommyboy74

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1826
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2012, 09:22:21 PM »
Even though the AMF houses where I live have the warning stickers on the actual lane saying "do not cross foul line", they still have the stupid dry spot for the first 24 inches from the lane.

At least that house I bowl at (not an AMF house), you will slip if you go past the foul line.  Just as nature intended it.
Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

Hoselrockets

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1230
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2012, 09:26:19 PM »
There is a lot of ways to save money, power consumption on CRTs isn't as much an issue for most centers these days using LCD panels with half or less the power draw. Typically I don't hear the manager of the local center complaining about the electric bill. Lane maintenance, yes.

You want to change automatic scoring not replace it. It would be easy for every center to have the large scoring system similar to nationals at the cost of one projector per two lanes. You only need the software that sends the scoring signal to the projector in split screen mode like when playing video games on your home systems and it divides the screen for two player mode.

That simple little change in software would allow you to get rid of all your monitors and have just the projector hitting the wall/backdrop down lane. It would have a very new and cool look that league and open bowlers would like. Automatic scoring is what your open bowlers these days want/need.


actually the cost of a projector and screen is way more expensive in the short and long term.  Center do have an option to upgrade older scoring with completely replacing it but the old scoring systems don't' have the functions that center need today.  Also it's not a good idea just to have one slave cpu running a center bad things can and will happen when that is the case and it's not a simple little change. Good thoughts though....

Hoselrockets

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1230
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2012, 09:30:00 PM »
The problem with bowling is automatic scoring.  To replace old automatic scoring with new is $135,000 for 24 lanes.  In the days of CRT monitors they never shut off even when not in use.  Electric bills for a 48 lane center can range from $10,000 to $12,000 a month.  Most of the energy is going toward scoring.  How many lines of bowling have to be played to cover the electric bill alone?  Thus we have the high priced games.  Cases of pins are around $120.  It takes at least 2 cases per setter to run correctly.  Multiply that by however many lanes and figure replacing at least once a year.  Resurfacing 24 lanes and approaches for wood is around $15,000 to $20,000 replacing with synthetics $135,000.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it is expensive to own a bowling center.  If you could get rid of automatic scoring you wouldn't need 48 computers at 350 watts and 48 monitors at 100 watts usage.  You might actually be able to put money into air conditioning and fixing a roof.

Smash49

You can't run today's business with yesterday's technology...so YES centers need to update their scoring systems first.  Pins are the a cost of doing business.

Smash49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2136
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2012, 09:53:11 PM »
That's the problem.  The cost are way to high to maintain a center to make a profit.  I shut off my upper monitors and my electric bill went from $4800 a month to $2400.  How many games have to be played to support a $4800 electric bill at $4 a game.  1200 games.  For a 24 lane center with a full league of 4 members times $9 league rate you get $864 a league. If you are lucky to make that 3 nights a week better hope you sell a lot of beer.  AMF's problem is open bowling doesn't work and is not something they can depend on.  It's hard to fill a center every night without a great league base and they killed that.  The cost of owning a bowling center is truly amazing.  Until you have done it you can't even imagine.

Smash49
Top 100 Coaches by Bowler's Journal International 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012!  Outstanding Coach in the state of Texas by Bowler's Journal International 2006.
IBPSIA Certified Pro Shop Technician
SLSM Designs Bowling Accessories.
www.bowlersslidesock.com

Whos Left

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 105
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2012, 10:18:31 PM »
I know that this is a unique situation, but I live in Las Vegas.  I believe that bowling
situations are almost ideal here and bowling is still struggling to get new league bowlers.  All bowling centers here are in casinos and the philosophy has always been
get people in the front door and we will get their money.  Prices are relatively low==
probably averaging about $1.50 per game.  All centers are well maintained and run
specials and tournaments for locals and it still difficult to turn a profit--and don't forget the great equalizers--slot machines.  The oil always begins about four inches from the foul line.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2012, 04:33:57 PM by Whos Left »

Strider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6751
Re: AMF Bowling files for bankruptcy again
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2012, 12:04:09 AM »
For those who don't know, AMF has a policy that their centers cannot oil the first 18-24" of the lane because open bowlers go past the foul line and slip. This is a stupid policy, has drastically dropped scores in my house (and I'm sure others) and made a lot of people mad.

Are you sure that's a corporate policy, or just one that is used in the center you bowl in (or possibly in your city)?  I don't currently bowl in an AMF house, but that certainly didn't used to be a rule where I bowled.  I read about horror stories about bad AMF houses in the past and may people blamed AMF corporate when it was the individual manager(s) who were to blame.  I bowled in two of them.  One by a bean counter who cut tons of corners and let things go because he didn't want to spend money and the other by a true bowler who asked for (and received) money for improvements.  If you only bowled in the first house you might assume that AMF sucked.  AMF hasn't been overly supportive or willing to (easily) provide money for improvements in quite a few years, but your story sounds hard to believe.  Even though we all like a certain amount of oil to help our scores, the main reason for oiling is to protect the lane surface.