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And so it begins......
« on: November 17, 2019, 11:03:37 AM »
Ronnie Russell jumped ship to Storm. From what I told, there will be more defections from EBI.
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2019, 09:15:34 AM »
I know some storm guys who would love to get their hands on Purple Hammers.  Gotta think the same for Brunswick guys

 
Not Parker Bohn. I recently watched a short interview of him where he said he had no need for Urethane. He specifically said that Urethane was the domain for the real heavy handed guys, which wasn't his game. Just like most of us. Of course, except for some shorter pattern situations, he's absolutely correct.
 
Most bowlers will see more benefit from a specialized low differential Reactive like the Hammer Web Tour or the Brunswick Phantom. You get a good Urethane like reaction without needing a 400+ rev rate to make it happen.
Speaking of the Phantom, I was extremely skeptical, but darn if Lane Side didn't show it just about rolls like the OG Slate Blue Phantom. Pretty amazing really.


I have the Purple Hammer and the new Phantom. The track flare is almost identical. The difference is that the Phantom doesn’t puke in carrydown the way the Hammer and other Urethane balls do.


The Purple Hammer is probably the best current Urethane out there. But it’s still a Urethane, and at best is a niche special purpose ball for all except those who have a lot of hand. A low differential Reactive like the Phantom will almost always be a better choice when a Urethane like reaction is needed.

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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2019, 10:02:34 AM »
I know some storm guys who would love to get their hands on Purple Hammers.  Gotta think the same for Brunswick guys

 
Not Parker Bohn. I recently watched a short interview of him where he said he had no need for Urethane. He specifically said that Urethane was the domain for the real heavy handed guys, which wasn't his game. Just like most of us. Of course, except for some shorter pattern situations, he's absolutely correct.
 
Most bowlers will see more benefit from a specialized low differential Reactive like the Hammer Web Tour or the Brunswick Phantom. You get a good Urethane like reaction without needing a 400+ rev rate to make it happen.
Speaking of the Phantom, I was extremely skeptical, but darn if Lane Side didn't show it just about rolls like the OG Slate Blue Phantom. Pretty amazing really.


I have the Purple Hammer and the new Phantom. The track flare is almost identical. The difference is that the Phantom doesn’t puke in carrydown the way the Hammer and other Urethane balls do.


The Purple Hammer is probably the best current Urethane out there. But it’s still a Urethane, and at best is a niche special purpose ball for all except those who have a lot of hand. A low differential Reactive like the Phantom will almost always be a better choice when a Urethane like reaction is needed.

Absolutely true for 95% of bowlers especially on THS but top guys like Butturff and O'Neill unlike PB3 have being winning on the main tour very recently and with urethane.  Jesper looks like coming out of slump as well (not EBI but still).  For some of the top guys (back on topic) urethane lineup does matter.  Probably be in Brunswick best interest to make sure new EBI urethane balls are just as good as the old for holding onto some of the top guys though granted $$$ still main thing I am sure.  Brunswick needs to own it makes the best urethane now imo because that is part of the price they paid for.  Not like R&D costs are that high (just paid for it) and already have proven winners at least for several more years minimum.  We shall see I guess.
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2019, 01:10:11 PM »
Ebonite filed bankruptcy in march and was struggling filling orders on new releases and nobody knew there was an issue. Ronnie didn't know anything that others much more important then him knew. It was a huge blindside. 

The industry is shrinking.  Bowlers refuse to believe it

# of league bowlers is shrinking in the US and I guess they buy majority of the balls.  I thought there is some solid growth overseas though.  Whatever pretty obvious EBI management was shit.  Its not like they didn't have balls people wanted. 

The problem is the owners of EBI are a bigger entity than EBI. Owning Gap,Pac Sun, Victoria Secrets ect.  Even those companies profits are down so something has to go that being EBI.

These people are not bowlers they don't have as much passion like we do. Amazon, walmart and other online big companies are changing the landscape of purchasing. Malls are loosing stores like crazy, especially in smaller areas.. The game is changing rapidly..
They weren't owned by Victoria Secret owner, but Blue 9 Capital an investment group! Tuttleman who on the board of both EBI and Blue 9 Capital!
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2019, 09:39:08 PM »
Stefanie Johnson is the latest to leave EBI.  She is now part of the Roto Grip staff.
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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2019, 09:45:21 PM »
It also appears that EBI guys can now throw Brunswick.
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2019, 10:14:40 PM »
Stefanie Johnson is the latest to leave EBI.  She is now part of the Roto Grip staff.
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2019, 10:36:43 PM »
2nd on money list, not a bowler wanted to lose imo.
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2019, 11:32:51 PM »
It also appears that EBI guys can now throw Brunswick.

Saw a video from Kyle Sherman throwing the Melee Jab. Rumor is EBI staffers free to throw balls from any of the 7 brands at the moment and Brunswick staffers have to wait for the "New EBI" balls to throw everything

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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2019, 05:59:23 AM »
Anderson was throwing a Hero all day yesterday at a tournament.

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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2019, 08:47:28 AM »
It also appears that EBI guys can now throw Brunswick.

Saw a video from Kyle Sherman throwing the Melee Jab. Rumor is EBI staffers free to throw balls from any of the 7 brands at the moment and Brunswick staffers have to wait for the "New EBI" balls to throw everything
 

Makes sense. That gets more eyes on Brunswick stuff being thrown.

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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2019, 12:23:28 PM »
It also appears that EBI guys can now throw Brunswick.

Saw a video from Kyle Sherman throwing the Melee Jab. Rumor is EBI staffers free to throw balls from any of the 7 brands at the moment and Brunswick staffers have to wait for the "New EBI" balls to throw everything

Kyle threw Brunswick at Lindenwood so he’s more familiar with their stuff than most.
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2019, 05:26:51 PM »
On Motiv's Facebook page today, they announced that Patrick Girard has returned to Motiv after being away the last few years.  He signed a 2 year contract and is the latest to leave EBI after Brunswick purchased them.
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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2019, 11:16:45 PM »
On Motiv's Facebook page today, they announced that Patrick Girard has returned to Motiv after being away the last few years.  He signed a 2 year contract and is the latest to leave EBI after Brunswick purchased them.

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« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2019, 07:21:46 PM »
Another huge change was announced today.  Diana Zavjalova announced that she has left EBI and joined Storm.
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Re: And so it begins......
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2019, 07:49:44 PM »
Trusting online retailers to drill my stuff <shudder>.  Label drills all around.

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I'll have a drill press in my house soon. Drilling party, anyone?

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