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Jeff The Chef

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Why???
« on: October 20, 2003, 07:48:17 AM »
As an employee of the local bowling establishment (half 10-pin, half 5-pin lanes), for the past 3 years, I have noticed a weird occurrence amongst the public bowlers. The 5-pin bowlers always wander to the 10-pin lanes and stick their hands in the house balls, not one ball, but every single ball on the racks. If they wanted to use said balls, why didn't they just say they wanted to bowl 10-pin? Or is it that they have nothing better to do than waste our time and money to keep their lanes turned on while they wander around doing nothing? Has anybody else noticed weird things like this that public bowlers do for no apparent reason? I don't know why, but it just bugs me for some reason......
Sorry for the rant, I just needed to unload somewhere
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baiki

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Re: Why???
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2003, 12:58:19 AM »

You must be Canadian.

I guess they do that to get the feel of having fingers in a ball.

I played 1 season of 5-pin some years ago and believe me it's a different game altogether. Managed a 265 average. Not bad eh? But I was 203 in ten pin.


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Jeff The Chef

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Re: Why???
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2003, 07:16:59 AM »
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You must be Canadian.


Yes , I am. A 265 average is pretty damn good for 5-pin too, I don't know of anyone who has averaged higher than that in my house. One thing I forgot to add earlier was that some of them even go so far as to throw a 10-pin ball down a 5-pin lane! So far I've had a hell of a time trying to fish about five 10-pin balls out of the 5-pin lanes and the season has only just begun!
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LuvThatWhiteDot

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Re: Why???
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2003, 09:23:56 AM »
I love bowling fivepin.  I've only had a couple of tries, and each game I broke 100

Duckpins is also a real blast
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Magic Carpet

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Re: Why???
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2003, 09:36:02 AM »
Jeff The Chief,
I write for a Canadian magazine called 7-10 split. They just started covering 5 pin bowling. I have not read any of that section yet. I did not know until your post that 5 pin bowling used different balls than 10 pin bowling. I have never seen 5 pin bowling before. Does it look like duck pin bowling only size wise?
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baiki

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Re: Why???
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2003, 11:02:53 AM »


Lane is the same, dimensionwise.

Ball is much smaller, no holes.

Pins, smaller and 5 of them. Pins placed 1, 2, 3, 7 and 10 as refer to 10 pin on the deck.

3 balls allowed a frame.

Scoring, as in 10 pin for strike, spare, if covered by second ball. If 3 rd ball, it's a 15 count.

Perfect game is 450.

Pin 1, scores 5 count.

Pin 2, 3,  3 count.

Pin 4, 5   2 count.

I've only seen this game in Canada only. They have national championship tournaments too.


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Jeff The Chef

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Re: Why???
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2003, 04:45:31 PM »
Not sure I can add much more to what Baiki said, but maybe I can elaborate some.
The balls are much smaller, I'd say they have about a 16 inch circumference. The balls also weigh about 5 pounds. All balls are the same (weight, hardness), regardless of manufacturer, but are available in urethane or polyester coverstocks. Contrary to 10-pin bowling, it is actually better to throw a slight back-up ball as opposed to a full out hook.

The pins also have rubber rings around their middles which I have no idea what they do (aside from making the pins roll/bounce around more......and maybe it prolongs their life too). The pins can also be attached to strings, which is known as "string-pin" bowling. All the strings do is pull the pins up into the machine, rather than the machine lowering to pick up the pins.

Much like 200+ games are considered good in 10-pin, 300+ games are considered good for a 5-pin bowler. Compared to 10 pins and 7 pins (depending on if you are right or left handed), the corners are harder to pick up in 5-pin. Sparing splits? Ha! Might as well forget about it! The lack of extra pins to deflect the ball/other pins off of make it extremely difficult to spare.

In my opinion, you have to be a lot more accurate to score well in 5-pin than 10-pin, mostly because there is no "oil pattern" or "area" to create hold, but also because everything is much smaller.

If you need any other info just ask, I have a league tonight (10-pin) so I can ask around there for you. Hope this helped,

Jeff
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Chrispy

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Re: Why???
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2003, 05:27:39 PM »
I worked at a half 5 pin half 10 pin center for 6 years. I personally don't bowl five pin. But i can tell you how the pins are set up. The head pin counts 5 pins. The next row sits in between the 2-4 and the 3-6. And they count as 3 pins. The corner pins count as 2 pins.

I Live about an hour west of Toronto, Ontario, Canada

P.s. I am by no means an expert on five pin but i know how to score it.
The balls range between 3 3/8" to 5" in size. I'm not sure of the weights though.

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Jeff The Chef

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Re: Why???
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2003, 05:38:18 PM »
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I Live about an hour west of Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Sounds like you live pretty close to me.

I never really bowled 5 pin either, just for fun a few times, the only reason I know so much is that my uncle just bought the center and I spent all summer over-hauling the 5 pin machines with him (I also pick a lot up from my mother because she bowls in a Monday night 5 -pin league)
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