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mumzie

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Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« on: March 17, 2009, 05:51:15 PM »
I was talking with teammates tonight, and we all have come to the conclusion that execution and shotmaking is secondary. Having the right equipment is the only way to excel at this game any more.

I commented that no, it wasn't only whether I have the right equipment, it also depends on what equipment my opponent is throwing, and how that affects my shot/lane condition.

And then I said "I don't care what anyone says. Using the latest golf clubs doesn't affect my opponent's shot".

So - the advances in technology in golf have no parallel to the advances in bowling.
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 05:41:30 AM »
I like the thought process there.  You actually bring up a good point....but I bet Justin Leonard never thought he'd see the day he could hit 300 yards....LOL.
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 06:39:05 AM »
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I like the thought process there.  You actually bring up a good point....but I bet Justin Leonard never thought he'd see the day he could hit 300 yards....LOL.
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That is actually little to do with the golf club technology to-date.

They hit the ball so damn far because their FAIRWAYS run a dang 10 on the stimpmeter.  Most of us are lucky when our GREENS run that...let alone the fairways.  The manicured conditions of the course set up for the long ball of those on tour.  When I played in a Nationwide Tournament 3 years ago, I was consistently hitting the tee shot about 20-25 yards farther.

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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 10:09:56 AM »
Excellent Point mumzie!
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 11:02:04 AM »
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I like the thought process there.  You actually bring up a good point....but I bet Justin Leonard never thought he'd see the day he could hit 300 yards....LOL.


Yeah, but Justin Leonard can take a persimmon driver and stripe the fairway at 250 yards all day with it.  New golf equipment doesn't make up for a poor swing like a resin bowling ball makes up for poor execution.

I agree with the original post ... accuracy and execution take a back seat on house shots.  Rev it up, send it to the dry and watch it fly.  I see guys have 10 boards of area ... that is stupid.

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I completely agree with what Mumzie is saying.  Advances in golf technology are no where near to those in bowling.  Yes, new clubs and balls have made most of the guys on tour longer, but they won't help you one bit if the club face is a little open or closed at impact.  I probably could have agreed in a slightly more coherent manner, but what the hell....lol.
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 12:02:03 PM »
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I agree with the original post ... accuracy and execution take a back seat on house shots.  Rev it up, send it to the dry and watch it fly.  I see guys have 15 boards of area ... that is stupid.

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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 01:17:33 PM »
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New golf equipment doesn't make up for a poor swing like a resin bowling ball makes up for poor execution.


If only you could watch some guys on our pba experience league. Resin doesn't make up for poor execution on those conditions. People always wanna place blame on the balls, look at the friggin lanes. The PBA takes resin out of play one week and scores still flew off the charts. I think Barnes shot back to back 800s. Golf has easy courses and tough courses, just like bowling has easy conditions and tough conditions. The problem is, tough conditions are hard to find for the average bowler, and some don't even know they exist. Take a local scratch golfer with the newest set of clubs and send him to one of the toughest courses in the country and see how he does. Equipment doesn't place as much an emphasis on the scores as people think. I bowl a plastic league in the summer. I still have lots of hold in, and lots of hook out. I averaged higher with plastic than i did with resin all year. And this was the same house shot we bowled on all winter. Scores didn't change at all.
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 02:18:01 PM »
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I like the thought process there.  You actually bring up a good point....but I bet Justin Leonard never thought he'd see the day he could hit 300 yards....LOL.
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That is actually little to do with the golf club technology to-date.

They hit the ball so damn far because their FAIRWAYS run a dang 10 on the stimpmeter.  Most of us are lucky when our GREENS run that...let alone the fairways.  The manicured conditions of the course set up for the long ball of those on tour.  When I played in a Nationwide Tournament 3 years ago, I was consistently hitting the tee shot about 20-25 yards farther.

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This man speaks the truth.  The tour has so much money thrown into manicuring courses it's crazy.  They ROLL fairways and tee boxes, not just the greens.  We don't even roll our greens at my home course and I am thrilled when we are anywhere near 9 on the stimp with our greens.  With that said bowling is just an easier game and when you add easy shots and balls that hook in the box anyone can throw a 300.  I honesty never understood why the heck golf gets compared to bowling in the first place on these forums.  As a golfer and a house hack it's embarassing.  Bowling should be compared to billiards or horse shoes if anything.
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2009, 02:28:32 PM »
I think they get compared a lot because the mechanics of a golf swing and bowling have a lot to do with timing. I think that is where they get the comparisons. I think golfing just shows your flaws more like a sport shot in bowling. I think they do have a fair amount in common if you compare sport bowling with golfing. But in the long run golf is a lot more complex and harder.


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I like the thought process there.  You actually bring up a good point....but I bet Justin Leonard never thought he'd see the day he could hit 300 yards....LOL.
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That is actually little to do with the golf club technology to-date.

They hit the ball so damn far because their FAIRWAYS run a dang 10 on the stimpmeter.  Most of us are lucky when our GREENS run that...let alone the fairways.  The manicured conditions of the course set up for the long ball of those on tour.  When I played in a Nationwide Tournament 3 years ago, I was consistently hitting the tee shot about 20-25 yards farther.

Edited on 3/18/2009 6:39 AM


This man speaks the truth.  The tour has so much money thrown into manicuring courses it's crazy.  They ROLL fairways and tee boxes, not just the greens.  We don't even roll our greens at my home course and I am thrilled when we are anywhere near 9 on the stimp with our greens.  With that said bowling is just an easier game and when you add easy shots and balls that hook in the box anyone can throw a 300.  I honesty never understood why the heck golf gets compared to bowling in the first place on these forums.  As a golfer and a house hack it's embarassing.  Bowling should be compared to billiards or horse shoes if anything.
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Re: Golf and Bowling - no they're not alike - I think I just figured it out!
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2009, 05:46:52 PM »
I believe the comparison is more on the mental side of the games and how we play them, not in the literal duplicity of technology and technique.  The mental side of golf and bowling is the same.  One person against a course.  They are the closest individual sports you can find.  

The biggest difference is in the percieved difficulty of each sport.  Everyone ever knows golf is hard.  It's hard to hit the ball straight.  We've all seen kids with 6# house balls knock over ten pins.  Bowling looks easier to the outside viewer.  

I just started golfing again not only to get into the sport more seriously but to compare my trials on the greens to the lanes.  I'm frustrated but can't wait to get back out each week.  I relate each of my relatively straighter shots on the golf course to a strike in bowling.  We all know we get crap strikes we threw terrible. I now know I have some crap swings that still get the ball up and out onto the fairway.

As for golf equipment affecting your opponents shot the only relation to bowling would be a match where each bowler was on their own pair of lanes competing against each other.  Technology affecting another player is not the intention of the technology it's just a byproduct of how bowling as a game is played. I've always thought of pattern transitioning as defense in bowling, can't do anything of the sort in golf.

The way technology has advanced both games is the only parallel.


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