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Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« on: January 27, 2015, 09:37:01 PM »
Been bowling about a year now.  I have tried Ebonite Power Wash, Ebonite Clean and Dull, and Valentino Remedy Rx.  The Clean and Dull cleaned best but didn't leave ball with a tacky feeling after like the sprays did.

 I'm curious if anyone tried something new recently that they really liked.

 

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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 11:33:59 PM »
Where can one purchase the Vise cleaner?

Anyone tried the Genesis/Next Gen Maxx cleaner?

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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 11:38:13 PM »
Where can one purchase the Vise cleaner?

Anyone tried the Genesis/Next Gen Maxx cleaner?

The Genesis product is ok. Similar to Powerhouse cleaner.

The Vise cleaner will probably be available through distributer ' s soon.
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2015, 11:48:02 PM »
Explain why the scuff is used? I've never used it. Didn't think id use with a spinner

Scuff is used when I need to do a deep clean on my solids, especially my oil monster.  What it does is that it will help get the dirt/grime out but also can fix some minor surface scratches.  The other thing is if you apply a thick coat on the surface, Scuff actually can extract some oil out of the cover as it dries to a powder.  Once it dries, it can be brushed off.

Even though Scuff can extract some oil, it does not replace a true oil extraction.

For regular cleaning, I go with the Remedy RX or the Power Gel Clean.  Deep Cleaning, I'll use the Scuff. 
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2015, 09:26:09 AM »
Been bowling about a year now.  I have tried Ebonite Power Wash, Ebonite Clean and Dull, and Valentino Remedy Rx. The Clean and Dull cleaned best but didn't leave ball with a tacky feeling after like the sprays did.

Ok, sorry I didn't notice this sooner.
Clean and Dull is THE strongest bowling ball cleaner on the market, bar none. Others may be easier to use. If your use of it did not leave the ball tacky, something is wrong with the procedure you used.

1A. You really can't use this at the lanes. You rarely have to do that because it's such a deep and strong cleaner. The 2nd best cleaning products for use at the lanes are Hook-It and LMB International cleaner (formerly Lane Masters cleaner). And they are both very effective cleaners; personally I use LMB Int'l cleaner at the lanes.

1B. I always use a rubber glove to protect my hand when applying C&D. It is that strong.

2. The current instructions from Powerhouse are not the same as the original instructions when it was marketed by Track or by its inventor, APP (Advanced Polishing Products). The original instructions are
a) Put a quarter sized dollop on a strong paper towel (like Bounty) and rub the top half of the ball for about 45 - 60 seconds, keeping the surface wet with cleaner.
b) Dampen a 2nd paper towel and wipe off the residual Clean and Dull, thoroughly.
c) Use a 3rd dry paper towel to remove the water that washed off the residual C&D.
d) Do the bottom half of the ball.

Even when bowling on true heavy oil, I'd only use C&D about every 9 games or so; that is, if you are cleaning the ball at the lanes after bowling, as you should.

I suspect the reason your ball was not tacky after using C&D is that there was residual C&D on the ball that was not removed with the dampened paper towel.
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2015, 09:30:25 AM »
Here is the link to the cleaner on the Vise site:
 
http://www.viseinserts.com/access_15.html

Steven,

What Vise cleaner are you pointing him to?
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2015, 10:49:14 AM »
The big bottle on the right (in the link) that says "Cleaner".
 
Milo likes it, so I'll give it an honest test.

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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2015, 10:58:53 AM »
This cleaner is on sale at Buddies Pro Shop. How good is it compared to Remedy RX and Black Magic Rejuvenator, does anyone know?

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4933-lmb-international-water-based-ball-cleaner-with-instant-tack-quart.aspx
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2015, 11:21:06 AM »
This cleaner is on sale at Buddies Pro Shop. How good is it compared to Remedy RX and Black Magic Rejuvenator, does anyone know?

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4933-lmb-international-water-based-ball-cleaner-with-instant-tack-quart.aspx

Jim,

I'm not sure if this is the same cleaner as Lane Masters original Insta-Tack, but that one I found vastly inferior to their regular cleaner, which, as you know, I regard as one of the best, even though it has an intense vapor.
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2015, 11:48:56 AM »
This cleaner is on sale at Buddies Pro Shop. How good is it compared to Remedy RX and Black Magic Rejuvenator, does anyone know?

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4933-lmb-international-water-based-ball-cleaner-with-instant-tack-quart.aspx

Jim,

I'm not sure if this is the same cleaner as Lane Masters original Insta-Tack, but that one I found vastly inferior to their regular cleaner, which, as you know, I regard as one of the best, even though it has an intense vapor.

It's the same and I agree, it's not a great product. There is a reason it's in the "bargain bin" on the Buddies site.

The new Vise ball cleaner works really well. I find it to be every bit as effective as Valentino's Remedy, which is a great product. It's a notch down from the original Lane Masters cleaner(now LMB International), but it doesn't have that awful smell either.

I tried a couple of different ones they were testing about a year ago, one was a clear, lime green gel and the other was wipes similar in idea to the Storm Reacta wipes. I gave both back and told them, "No one is going to buy this crap". I didn't hear about them again. LOL


I got this from my local pro shop about two weeks ago, so it will be widely available soon and may be already.

I attached a pic of the bottle here.
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2015, 12:20:51 PM »
Been bowling about a year now.  I have tried Ebonite Power Wash, Ebonite Clean and Dull, and Valentino Remedy Rx. The Clean and Dull cleaned best but didn't leave ball with a tacky feeling after like the sprays did.

Ok, sorry I didn't notice this sooner.
Clean and Dull is THE strongest bowling ball cleaner on the market, bar none. Others may be easier to use. If your use of it did not leave the ball tacky, something is wrong with the procedure you used.

1A. You really can't use this at the lanes. You rarely have to do that because it's such a deep and strong cleaner. The 2nd best cleaning products for use at the lanes are Hook-It and LMB International cleaner (formerly Lane Masters cleaner).

1B. I always use a rubber glove to protect my hand when applying C&D. It is that strong.

2. The current instructions from Powerhouse are not the same as the original instructions when it was marketed by Track or by its inventor, APP (Advanced Polishing Products). The original instructions are
a) Put a quarter sized dollop on a strong paper towel (like Bounty) and rub the top half of the ball for about 45 - 60 seconds, keeping the surface wet with cleaner.
b) Dampen a 2nd paper towel and wipe off the residual Clean and Dull, thoroughly.
c) Use a 3rd dry paper towel to remove the water that washed off the residual C&D.
d) Do the bottom half of the ball.

Even when bowling on true heavy oil, I'd only use C&D about every 9 games or so; that is, if you are cleaning the ball at the lanes after bowling, as you should.

I suspect the reason your ball was not tacky after using C&D is that there was residual C&D on the ball that was not removed with the dampened paper towel.

I will try it this way tonight.  Thank You.

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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2015, 01:17:56 PM »
I use clean and dull then energizer foam cleaner on dull equipment, and energizer foam cleaner then power wash on polished equipment. This system works pretty well.
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2015, 02:58:24 PM »
This cleaner is on sale at Buddies Pro Shop. How good is it compared to Remedy RX and Black Magic Rejuvenator, does anyone know?

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4933-lmb-international-water-based-ball-cleaner-with-instant-tack-quart.aspx

Jim,

I'm not sure if this is the same cleaner as Lane Masters original Insta-Tack, but that one I found vastly inferior to their regular cleaner, which, as you know, I regard as one of the best, even though it has an intense vapor.

It's the same and I agree, it's not a great product. There is a reason it's in the "bargain bin" on the Buddies site.

The new Vise ball cleaner works really well. I find it to be every bit as effective as Valentino's Remedy, which is a great product. It's a notch down from the original Lane Masters cleaner(now LMB International), but it doesn't have that awful smell either.

I tried a couple of different ones they were testing about a year ago, one was a clear, lime green gel and the other was wipes similar in idea to the Storm Reacta wipes. I gave both back and told them, "No one is going to buy this crap". I didn't hear about them again. LOL


I got this from my local pro shop about two weeks ago, so it will be widely available soon and may be already.

I attached a pic of the bottle here.

Thanks, "milo".

I also found Reacta wipes fairly ineffective.

I'll have to try this Vise cleaner sometime soon.
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2015, 05:17:44 PM »
I use Tac up...A great spray cleaner....Then I use Storm Reacta Scuff...I usually
put it on with an abralon  pad...If I want a dull surface...I leave it and wipe it off
with Tac up...

If I want a polished surface, I apply the polish and again wipe it off with Tac up....


Leaves the ball nice and tacky...

And gives new meaning to the term...Back end... ;D ;)

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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2015, 05:20:14 PM »
I use Tac up...A great spray cleaner....Then I use Storm Reacta Scuff...I usually
put it on with an abralon  pad...If I want a dull surface...I leave it and wipe it off
with Tac up...

If I want a polished surface, I apply the polish and again wipe it off with Tac up....


Leaves the ball nice and tacky...

And gives new meaning to the term...Back end... ;D ;)

You do know that we are discussing the cleaning of BOWLING balls...right?  ;D ;D
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Re: Ball cleaners 2015, any new opinions?
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2015, 06:26:26 PM »
heard months ago storm was supposed to come out with a gel based cleaner, anyone know what happened with that??