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sdbowler

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Ball for son?
« on: July 13, 2012, 01:09:36 PM »
My son is using a Target Zone right now. He will be 8 in September. I want to get a new ball for him this season. Part of me wants to get him another Target Zone and keep working on fundamentals. While part of me wants to get him into a urethane ball to get a little more ball movement and still keep working on fundamentals. I am truly tossed on this. I have had people tell to what I think is best for him, right now I don't know. The basics always need to be taught I know that. However I think the urethane would help out in many other aspects as well. Just looking for some input. Thanks all for your input. Only thing I am asking is to remain polite on this.

 

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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2012, 05:47:09 PM »
Guys thanks for your help. I don't know how fast he throws it. I just never trust the speed that shows up on the scoring units. I have never really timed it or anything at all. I have a lot of thinking to do.
Chris if all kids were like him and thought about bowling 24/7 there would be no problem. Anytime anything dealing with bowling is on tv he wants to watch it. I am not pushing him into this at all either. This is all him. This is why I am so stuck on what to do. I don't want to make him feel like he is not going anywhere, yet at the same time I don't want to push him to hard on something. Watching him bowl he just wants to learn more and more and more. It is great!

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 12:06:35 AM »
I think the slingshot is perfect.  PK17 giving too much length and pop is absurd, the boy is 8 so I doubt he has very much in terms of speed and rev rate.  I would be more concerned with urethane hooking too early.  Reactive over plastic, its better that kids learn to throw hard in my opinion
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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 08:36:58 AM »
Guys thanks for your help. I don't know how fast he throws it. I just never trust the speed that shows up on the scoring units. I have never really timed it or anything at all. I have a lot of thinking to do.
Chris if all kids were like him and thought about bowling 24/7 there would be no problem. Anytime anything dealing with bowling is on tv he wants to watch it. I am not pushing him into this at all either. This is all him. This is why I am so stuck on what to do. I don't want to make him feel like he is not going anywhere, yet at the same time I don't want to push him to hard on something. Watching him bowl he just wants to learn more and more and more. It is great!


Just curious.....how big/tall is your son?  Reason I ask is because I have a 7 1/2 year old in my care (my fiances son) and he is only about 50 pounds.  He is really skinny (you can basically see his rib cage with no shirt on).  When we take him bowling, I would be willing to bet he is not hitting 10 mph.  When your son bowls, does it only take a few seconds for the ball to reach the pins or does it seem like it takes awhile to get there?  Also, what kind of scores does he normally shoot?  Is he a child that is typically shooting 60s or is he able to get over 100 on a regular basis?

The main thing for you to think about, is anything you put him in is going to give him more than what he has.  If a Polar Ice retails for $100 and a Slingshot retails for $120-130, is it worth it to you to spend that extra $20-30 if he is still in a learning stage?  I agree with Russell and a couple others that recommend the Polar Ice.  Remember the fact that he is 8 years old so anything on the lower end you choose wont be a disservice to him.  He is just going to be excited at the fact he has a new toy to use. 
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sdbowler

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 09:29:42 AM »
My son is a big boy. He is at 100 pounds, would say he is close to 4 1/2 feet tall. If I had to guess speed it would be around 12mph. Just guessing on that. When we lived in Aberdeen before moving back to Sioux Falls he was averaging 102. Since moving back here I have taken advantage of kidsbowlfree.com offer and he is usually around 110-130. That is also with me working with him on a few things as well.

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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 12:30:20 PM »
Lets see here. Going to be 8 years old in Sept. "Teach him to throw it hard"????
NNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn the SPORT!

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 12:54:43 PM »
My son is a big boy. He is at 100 pounds, would say he is close to 4 1/2 feet tall. If I had to guess speed it would be around 12mph. Just guessing on that. When we lived in Aberdeen before moving back to Sioux Falls he was averaging 102. Since moving back here I have taken advantage of kidsbowlfree.com offer and he is usually around 110-130. That is also with me working with him on a few things as well.

That is pretty vital information.  Based on that you COULD do something like a Slingshot or Scout.  The Scout would be another option as it is a resin cover that is cheaper than the $120-130 price point of the Slingshot.  Its completely up to you as based on the info you gave, he could use either a urethane or entry level resin and not go wrong.  That should make your decision a little easier.
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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2012, 03:11:21 PM »
Lets see here. Going to be 8 years old in Sept. "Teach him to throw it hard"????
NNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn the SPORT!

Trust me I am not teaching him to throw it hard. For his age he has a nice smooth game. Throws the ball good. I am still working with him on fundamentals. I teach him something let him bowl a week while working on it. That way he can get use to it. I am not trying to shove information down his throat at all. He has picked up a lot just by watching others bowl. As I said before he loves watching the PBA when it is on tv. He would be happy staying at a bowling center and watching people bowl all day. He would be even happier to be bowling however. When I was his age I was not this way at all. I am just looking at trying to find a ball that will give him some reaction is all. The T Zone just spins and slides on him. Don't get me wrong it does move a little. I just want something more for him.

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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2012, 03:17:41 PM »
sdbowler
My response was not directed at you! The last sentence from Brandon Riley is not my suggestion for a young bowler! :)

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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2012, 04:28:47 PM »
Sorry I skipped right over that. No way do I want him to learn how to throw it hard. I am 37 and have wrist issues from the way I bowled. I know plenty of people that have wrist, elbow, and shoulder issues from throwing hard. So no I don't want him to throw it hard. Learn the ins and outs of the games. That's why this is so hard for me to decide what to get him.

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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2012, 04:40:26 PM »
 :) :) :)
seams to be todays mentality. Throw it hard, touch the headpin, get a strike!
The recreation "look at my score" compared to the sport "You need to make the shots to reap the benefits" of bowling.
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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2012, 10:22:04 PM »
I agree. That's why I am trying to teach him a little at a time and pass what information I know to him. I don't want to see him be one of those that only know how to stand left and throw right. Good thing he is young and catches on to a lot just by watching people.

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2012, 06:59:53 AM »
When I was your son's age, I was the same way.  Couldn't get enough bowling.  I watched on TV (back when it was on ABC's Wide World of Sports) every week and taped the shows so I could watch throughout the week.

If he is that dedicated, step him up to a weak reactive like a Storm Tropical Breeze...or any other company's entry level reactive.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with learning fundamentals while using a reactive ball...plus the added striking power will add to his enjoyment.

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2012, 12:41:37 PM »
Millertime that is a great point. I had never thought about going to that level. I was only thinking about urethane so now I am having to think about 3 balls. Well probably only 2. I have a feeling I know how I am going to go. I really wish I would take a video of him bowling and post so you all could see him bowl. I think that would be even better for you all to help out with. Thanks all for your help.

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Re: Ball for son?
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2012, 11:33:58 AM »
The Ebonite Cyclone is a great entry level reactive resin ball at an affordable price, but in less than 14 lbs you probably get either a generic or pancake core.  --  JohnP