Post by: Smash49 on January 06, 2008, 02:09:49 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 10:20:59 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 10:35:56 AM
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quote:Best not buy or play any major brand golf clubs then. Majority of the heads are made in foundries in China.
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True but in the situation concerning bowling balls there is plenty of great equipment still made in the U.S.A.
Ping still makes the majority of their irons heads in the USA. Does one play Ping or another brand? Who BTW have a MAP on their retailers and WILL revoke a dealer if found to be selling less than MAP price. Or do you play another cheaper brand made in China just because they are cheaper?
BTW....I think most ALL plastic balls are made in China/Korea except Big B's in Mexico both foreign manufactured. So does that mean you are not going to use a plastic ball?
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Post by: abrown on January 06, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
Post by: Smash49 on January 06, 2008, 12:16:40 PM
If people are going to demand American goods and refuse Chinese products then they will have to pay the cost and it sounds like some are willing to.
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Post by: J_Mac on January 06, 2008, 12:40:01 PM
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I heard the WD's made in China have a lead-base coverstock
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 02:06:31 PM
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Obviously the Ebonite brand and its family that is manufactured in the U.S.A. is doing extremely well.
Sorry Mr. Truth...the truth is Ebonite outsources their plastic ball manufacture to China.
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 02:13:31 PM
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HMMMM seems to me that the Maxim we just bought our grandson fro Christmas had Made in the U.S.A. stamped on it
Probably old stock. Ask the Ebo freaks and I think they'll corroborate.
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 02:29:03 PM
BTW....I did post the question about where Maxim and WD lines are mfg. in the Ebo forum.
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Post by: justdale on January 06, 2008, 02:31:38 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 02:57:21 PM
I really don't think ANY plastic ball is manufactured in the good ole USA.
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Post by: guardiangel on January 06, 2008, 04:10:23 PM
its like japan refusing to buy beef from the US because they said that cows in america are poisonous.
it is a tactic in international trade a government uses to "boycott" products from a country for multiple reasons like how china refuses to allow their dollar to inflate.
well the logic is in every business / international trade text book
that shows how many people in this forum read
Post by: APheLion on January 06, 2008, 04:11:16 PM
first, does the chinese companies choose to be communist? in the states u can choose, thats not an option in china
second, im chinese, and i think the companies who have their plastic balls made in china is a good move, costs are way lower and lower price for everyone. if u cant take that, throw ur 200 dollar BW to the 10 pin. or pay 50 for the chinese made plastic ball.
last, u think its hard to make a living out of pro shop? go to china and see how much the labour are getting paid to make ur stupid 50 dollar plastic balls, they have a hard time bringing food to the table so they have to that crappy job so americans can play throwing a ball into pins.
the day that all the plastic balls are made in china, i wanna see whos goin to complain, and if ppl goin to buy a $50 for a made in china or a $70 made in us
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment
When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on January 06, 2008, 04:15:59 PM
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The new Columbia White Dots are now made in China.
Oh wow, I think I'd better find another Blackberry White Dot made in the USA and just put it in my closet until I need it
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Post by: guardiangel on January 06, 2008, 04:20:08 PM
how many of you have actually BEEN to china? they have malls and huge buildings just like new york or any big city in the US. they have almost completed the tallest building in the world. they have public transportation just as good as Manhattan. its not time to get stuck in the past. where has the US been all these years since bush took office? look at the numbers, the national debt.
its not good to badmouth a nation,because the government blinds you to. do some research FFS
but on another hand i do not agree that a bowling ball company which originated from the US should produce in china or anywhere else in the world. it loses its prestige. think about GM making cars in china or mexico. it just isn't right.
oh forgot to mention about cheap labor.
in the city, a tour guide makes 3 grand USD a month.
hows that cheap? iono, u guys are the ones calling cheap on chinese labor
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Post by: guardiangel on January 06, 2008, 05:20:03 PM
as long as all major brands agree not to outsource, there would not be such a problem in existent.
its possible but as a business they care about beating their competitors rather than the sport itself.
sad but true
Post by: REVerse on January 06, 2008, 05:36:52 PM
quote:guardiangel- where do you live? Just curious...
its very sad how politics has poluted american minds to direct hate against products made against a country.
its like japan refusing to buy beef from the US because they said that cows in america are poisonous.
it is a tactic in international trade a government uses to "boycott" products from a country for multiple reasons like how china refuses to allow their dollar to inflate.
well the logic is in every business / international trade text book
that shows how many people in this forum read
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Post by: Smash49 on January 06, 2008, 05:52:43 PM
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Post by: notsohotshot on January 06, 2008, 06:38:12 PM
Post by: CaliBowler300 on January 06, 2008, 06:48:27 PM
Right now ALL plastic balls are made overseas. As for bags I do not believe there is one company that makes bags here, now KR does but everything they buy is from china as well. Get ready fellas to start speaking chinese so you can read the name of your next bowling ball.
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Post by: Sjf on January 06, 2008, 07:38:16 PM
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Best not buy or play any major brand golf clubs then. Majority of the heads are made in foundries in China.
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scott, so right, major golf brands have benn made in China for years.
in 1996, i received as a gift a brand new Taylor ti 11 driver. at that time, it was their top model, it was made in China.
my dad had the Taylor Ti 1 driver, also made in China.
Post by: Sjf on January 06, 2008, 07:40:35 PM
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if you dislike buying balls made in china then i would hope you don't buy balls made in mexico cause Brunswick cost more American people jobs moving down cross the boarder then all the plastic balls being made over in china are
i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.
second reason, i love Chinese food!!!!
Post by: Sjf on January 06, 2008, 07:44:29 PM
have only seen white dots, with Made in China stamped on them.
don't know for sure, but we have received orders for both models. and have not noticed any Maxim's yet, made in China.
but i will say this, the new white dot colors are awesome!!!!!
and i will say this, we seem to be doing well with the new T-zones also!!!
and their colors seem to be well received!!!
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Post by: scotts33 on January 06, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
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i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.
Very few clubs are made in China but ALMOST all the heads are made in foundries in China.
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Post by: Sjf on January 06, 2008, 07:55:18 PM
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i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.
Very few clubs are made in China but ALMOST all the heads are made in foundries in China.
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yes, most are assemabled here in the US, i have noticed a few assemabled there, but i would agree most are assemabled here.
now back to the balls, i clearly see made in China on white dots, but i can not recall ever seeing made in Mexico on a T-zone, or for that matter, any Brunswick ball. is this possible?
T-zone navy gold, i do not believe any marking was on the ball saying it is made in Mexico. or maybe ia mblind in one eye and can't see out the other.
Post by: Sjf on January 06, 2008, 08:08:49 PM
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i buy golf clubs made in China, for two reasons.
first, it's because if you want to play golf with top line equipment, well then, no choice, cause most are made over there.
Very few clubs are made in China but ALMOST all the heads are made in foundries in China.
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yes, most are assemabled here in the US, i have noticed a few assemabled there, but i would agree most are assemabled here.
now back to the balls, i clearly see made in China on white dots, but i can not recall ever seeing made in Mexico on a T-zone, or for that matter, any Brunswick ball. is this possible?
T-zone navy gold, i do not believe any marking was on the ball saying it is made in Mexico. or maybe ia mblind in one eye and can't see out the other.
There must be a logical reason "Made in Mexico" is not on any brunswick ball.
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the truth, I don't really know, all i am saying is that, it is very clear on the white dots, the "made in China" but i can not seem to remember seeing it on a T-zone or any Brunswick ball??? don't know the reason, if that is indeed the case. first thing monday, i am going to check out a T-zone and a twisted, to see.
Post by: notsohotshot on January 06, 2008, 10:08:27 PM
Post by: guardiangel on January 07, 2008, 12:33:36 AM
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guardiangel- where do you live? Just curious...
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born and raised in california. why?
i think this post is getting a little... political and tricky >_> just how we all like it
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on January 07, 2008, 12:55:23 AM
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this post is kinda stupid
first, does the chinese companies choose to be communist? in the states u can choose, thats not an option in china
second, im chinese, and i think the companies who have their plastic balls made in china is a good move, costs are way lower and lower price for everyone. if u cant take that, throw ur 200 dollar BW to the 10 pin. or pay 50 for the chinese made plastic ball.
last, u think its hard to make a living out of pro shop? go to china and see how much the labour are getting paid to make ur stupid 50 dollar plastic balls, they have a hard time bringing food to the table so they have to that crappy job so americans can play throwing a ball into pins.
the day that all the plastic balls are made in china, i wanna see whos goin to complain, and if ppl goin to buy a $50 for a made in china or a $70 made in us
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment
When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
Well I guess I pick the above. I already use my strike ball for my ten pin. If bowlers could learn to thumb the ball down and just killed the side rotation you wouldnt need a spare ball. LOL.
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Post by: APheLion on January 07, 2008, 10:50:59 AM
let me again point out few facts.
china has problem putting all the kids into school, thats not a problem that i can see in the US
at primary school and high school, kids are working on their homework at least 3 hrs after arriving from a whole day at the institution, and during the period of exams, they dont sleep more than 6 hrs in order to attain higher score so they can go to a better rated high school/university.
if u have a chance to visit china, u might see kids wearing school uniform on their knees on the street asking u to support them to buy some books, and personally i ve seen someone with great grades.
now, imagine if all these education problems doesnt exist in China. u think will be the chinese companies can make bowling balls for such a cheap labour cost?
my point is that when americans got more educated, they started to ask more from their employer, and the ones who has a good university degree will have less of a hassle finding a job. But then what happens with the ones without good education? well im sorry for those who dropped out of college/university or those who didnt even get into one, because thats the price of living in an advanced country and not being able to catch up with the pace.
So, then what happens when the educated americans who owns the bowling ball companies say, why im doing a favor for the losers in my country and bring our company down? lets just make our products in a country with a population less educated and hardworking, by doing this, cheaper balls for us and for the customer.
do i make myself clear? or should i put this in a easier way?
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on second edit:
Scoot, yea i do understand that some good bowlers can do that, but as myself, believing that a long lasting ball is a good ball, i wouldnt throw a $200 ball for spares
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment
When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
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Post by: jls on January 07, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
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guys guys, u r blaming the chinese companies to make the balls, when u should be thinking whats causing it
let me again point out few facts.
china has problem putting all the kids into school, thats not a problem that i can see in the US
at primary school and high school, kids are working on their homework at least 3 hrs after arriving from a whole day at the institution, and during the period of exams, they dont sleep more than 6 hrs in order to attain higher score so they can go to a better rated high school/university.
if u have a chance to visit china, u might see kids wearing school uniform on their knees on the street asking u to support them to buy some books, and personally i ve seen someone with great grades.
now, imagine if all these education problems doesnt exist in China. u think will be the chinese companies can make bowling balls for such a cheap labour cost?
my point is that when americans got more educated, they started to ask more from their employer, and the ones who has a good university degree will have less of a hassle finding a job. But then what happens with the ones without good education? well im sorry for those who dropped out of college/university or those who didnt even get into one, because thats the price of living in an advanced country and not being able to catch up with the pace.
So, then what happens when the educated americans who owns the bowling ball companies say, why im doing a favor for the losers in my country and bring our company down? lets just make our products in a country with a population less educated and hardworking, by doing this, cheaper balls for us and for the customer.
do i make myself clear? or should i put this in a easier way?
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on second edit:
Scoot, yea i do understand that some good bowlers can do that, but as myself, believing that a long lasting ball is a good ball, i wouldnt throw a $200 ball for spares
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment
When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
Edited on 1/7/2008 11:56 AM
sir
So please explain, why is it that when these so called educated people get to 45-55, they lose their jobs. to new younger educated people???
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Post by: LuckyLefty on January 07, 2008, 01:27:32 PM
I like Chinese food too and I like cheap goods.
If people are serious about this we have to make a choice!
Read "Where the west went wrong" by Pat Buchanon.
In it he describes the Hamiltonian system we lived under for over 100 years starting after the war of 1812.
Tariffs, no income taxes, a highly paid well educated middle class, and all goods that could be made; made here. Naturally goods were more expensive than they would have been if manufactured by cheaper labor overseas....naturally a global economic policy of free trade did not exist.
If you want this type of National Economic policy of protectionism brought back Buchanon is your man....if you want cheap goods, jobs shipped overseas to India, China, and Mexico most of today's candidates are for it except for a few democrats who are for some complicated version of protectionism.
I believe there are better solutions but these are the two most common systems regarding trade that most are promoting.
The flow of jobs is predictable and all corporate CEOS must play ball and lower costs and maximize profits if they want to keep their jobs and maximize their own wealth. They are doing it well...the middle class suffers...America suffers.
REgards,
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Post by: APheLion on January 07, 2008, 06:20:48 PM
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So please explain, why is it that when these so called educated people get to 45-55, they lose their jobs. to new younger educated people???
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jls, proud watcher of womens golf
if you ever owned a business u would know, older ppl work less but gets more. I believe if those 45-55 work as they were 20-30, they shouldnt lose their job.
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment
When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.