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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: txbowler on October 21, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
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Here's my problem. I have one of the releases where I have to many revs, not enough ball speed for a 2nd shift league we bowl on a competitive league.
Now, I can pull out my pink hammer, as I did last night and shoot 690 off my 205 average and the team wins, however, my other left handed teammate will complain the whole night because now he also has to throw urethane or plastic after the 1st game as I have carried down enough oil that he cannot get his reactive ball to finish through the oil line I have created. I get comments like "why do I even bother to bring $500 worth of equipment in the door when you ruin the shot".
Now I can start with my very weak reactive, and use my "C" game and struggle to bowl my average but my team mate won't bitch because he can use his $500 equipment and hit his average.
So do I struggled and work with my "C" game, or use urethane and my "A" game and just deal with the gripes?
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I get comments like "why do I even bother to bring $500 worth of equipment in the door when you ruin the shot
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You have a teammate that is this big of a jackass? Sounds like the teammate is worried about himself.....
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With $500 with of equipment to choose from, a decent bowler should be able to handle some carry down without issue. And since it's a second shift league, he will be bitching about the league before you messing up his shot anyway.
Bowling your "A" game is helping the team. He can buy a new ball to adjust if needed.
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It sounds like, to me anyway, your teammate is not being a good teammate now. Why would he complain about someone on your own team bowling well, regardless. Plus, it sounds like he isn't very good or that $500 worth of equipment should include something to handle a little carrydown. You should do what you need to do to score at your best....if he can't handle it well that's just too bad. He can do one of two things, adjust and score better, or bitch and complain. If he chooses the latter, then you can just know that you are the better bowler and better man.
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Simply put, I would say "suck it up big boy" or "tell somebody that gives a damn." But then, I am a dick to people that whine instead of having fun.
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Are you there bowling for the team only? If so, may there is a way you two can work something out that benefits the team and have you both scoring well.
Are you involved in side pot games? If so, its hard to have your teamate argue with you when you need to bowl your best.
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You owe it to your team mates to shoot the best you can, not set up the shot for them. That is their problem. It is not like you are going out and using a ball to set up a pattern for yourself. You are trying to attack the pattern that was left for you. Also, I cannot imagine carrydown being a significant factor to anyone with any skill level on a second shift, even on the left side. Right handers throwing polyester at 7 pins are going to do more to your track than your urethane ball.
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Here's my problem. I have one of the releases where I have to many revs, not enough ball speed for a 2nd shift league we bowl on a competitive league.
Now, I can pull out my pink hammer, as I did last night and shoot 690 off my 205 average and the team wins, however, my other left handed teammate will complain the whole night because now he also has to throw urethane or plastic after the 1st game as I have carried down enough oil that he cannot get his reactive ball to finish through the oil line I have created. I get comments like "why do I even bother to bring $500 worth of equipment in the door when you ruin the shot".
Now I can start with my very weak reactive, and use my "C" game and struggle to bowl my average but my team mate won't bitch because he can use his $500 equipment and hit his average.
So do I struggled and work with my "C" game, or use urethane and my "A" game and just deal with the gripes?
Wow, that is not a very supportive teammate. I would find it difficult to get excited about league night if I had to deal with that kind of behavior. My entire 2nd shift team is right handed and we never accuse each other of wrecking each others lines. We simply do our best to score with what we have to work with.
As far as I am concerned, a bowler should always start with their "A" game and adjust accordingly as conditions change. You don't throw your "C" game to start because a teammate thinks you are wrecking their "A" game. I am all about teamwork, but that would be beyond taking one for the team.
If your teammate is that serious about his bowling, it sounds like he needs to either invest in another ball, have one of his current balls re-drilled to handle carrydown, or start out inexpensively by simply changing the surface of one his current balls to better handle carrydown. He could also learn to adjust and find a new line unless his axis tilt, rotation, ball speed, ball layout, etc. is identical to yours. That's the beauty of bowling...everyone should be able to find a line that suits their "A" or even "B" game. Rarely does everyone on a pair need to throw the exact same line to score well. The "C" game should be a last resort.
That would be like the leading receiver on a football team telling the quarterback not to pass to him because he wants the other receivers to have a chance to score. It just doesn't work that way. When you get your chance to score you do it.
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That would be like the leading receiver on a football team telling the quarterback not to pass to him because he wants the other receivers to have a chance to score. It just doesn't work that way. When you get your chance to score you do it.
But the big difference here is the teammate's score counts. His score goes into the team's total.
It can be a very long season when someone on the team is not having fun.
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Percy Harvin didn't get along with his teammates and was not a team player. Guess what his a$$ is no longer a Seahawk. Like previously mentioned, he can have $750 worth of equipment, adjust his cover stocks, or shut up and bowl. At the end of the season it would be either he goes or I go. Too bad you can do the Tanya Harding on him and put him on injured reserve or PNP list. Hopefully you are one of the regulars and he gets dumped and realizes why nobody wants to bowl with him and changes his attitude.
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Get a new teammate ;)
But seriously, your teammate needs to learn to adjust his shot. If it's not you who is destroying the shot for him someone else will. And what is he going to do then? Complain that they aren't setting up the lane to his liking? Tell him to adapt or move out the way. You lowering your score to help his isn't good for the "TEAM".
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imagine if your teammate was a righty.....oh the horror!!!
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You're wrecking his shot with urethane? Did you tell him that he can stand on any of those dots and look at any board on the lane?
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Silly you Doom. He's left handed. There is only one Big Dot.
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If he can get plastic to work, why not his reactive with a surface change? Have him buy a pink hammer off ebay?
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This is what happens when you have two lefties on a pair. That is hilarious. Shoot 690 and enjoy your season.
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I agree. Tell him to welcome to a small taste of what it's like to be on the right side. You learn to avoid other people's tracks and just adjust as needed. It's just part of bowling for righties.
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Silly you Doom. He's left handed. There is only one Big Dot.
There are no lateral moves. There is only Zuul.
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There can always be a compromise. Depending on how the shot starts can dictate what you both can throw. Especially being a second shift where you might have zero lefties before you or perhaps five.
Working together will make the combined score of the two bowlers the highest. Perhaps move to urethane a little later in the night or something like that.
Just didn't want to pile on the other bowler.
I bowled with a teammate that could only throw plastic and he covered 30+ boards at 10 mph. Needless to say, some nights we had some interesting shots. And this was on wood. If you can work together on the shot, I am sure there is an answer that suits you both.
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Appreciate all the responses. What's funny in all this and the part I left out is this guy is my old college roommate. We've know each other and bowled together off and on, depending on when we lived in the same area for over 25 years.
I try to be considerate since he is a very good friend and at most places we bowl together, I can throw a tropical breeze or Lane Masters Hornet and score just fine.
I will focus on scoring the best I can as I think that will aid the team the best.
And for those that asked, the league we follow is a 36 lane 4 member mixed league that has a lot of special needs bowlers that throw plastic everywhere mixed in with bowlers of various abilities from 130-210. So you never know what you will face lane condition wise each week. Part of the challenge of the league.
Again thanks for the comments and opinions. It helped.
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......you never know what you will face lane condition wise each week. Part of the challenge of the league.
Tell the old college teammate............embrace it! ;)
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And for those that asked, the league we follow is a 36 lane 4 member mixed league that has a lot of special needs bowlers that throw plastic everywhere mixed in with bowlers of various abilities from 130-210. So you never know what you will face lane condition wise each week. Part of the challenge of the league.
Based on this, your pink Hammer has next to no effect on the shot. Shots sprayed all over the place, especially with a lot of plastic, will have a much bigger effect than the ball you're throwing.