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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: todvan on September 11, 2018, 07:13:22 AM

Title: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: todvan on September 11, 2018, 07:13:22 AM
With the new rules eliminating balance holes, asymmetric cored balls will be the best way to get the layout that you need.

However, current asymmetric balls are geared towards those who need a strong ball. For a number of bowlers, these balls are too strong for playing the typical house shot. An asymmetric cored ball with medium differentials and medium cover would be better.

The first company to produce a benchmark asymmetric ball wins!
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: Bowl_Freak on September 11, 2018, 08:03:45 AM
Desert Ops? For me, that would be considered a benchmark ball.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: Bowler19525 on September 11, 2018, 08:29:35 AM
Track Kinetic Emerald might be an option as well.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: BowlingforSoup on September 11, 2018, 09:06:08 AM
Put 90 x 2 1/4 x 45 or 110 x 1 1/4 x 60 on one you will be surprised.I am very rev dominant and on wet/dry ths we have here they work fine.With out these 2 layouts asyms would be out of the question for me
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: 2handedrook12 on September 11, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix don't count as asyms. The Code X, Black Ops series, do count.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: SVstar34 on September 11, 2018, 12:51:07 PM
I didn't think of it as a benchmark originally, but being lower tilt my DV8 Creed really acts as a benchmark ball for me. Easy to see if it works or what I can change to. DV8 has also had the Vandal series which all seemed to be more middle of the road. If you're higher in tilt or rotation maybe a little too sideways
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: svengali on September 14, 2018, 10:07:13 PM
DV8 Hitman Enforcer, Radical Ludicrous, Track Precision. All Asymmetric balls that could be considered benchmark balls.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: Bowlaholic on September 15, 2018, 06:33:04 AM
Radical Score a asymmetric benchmark ball.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: six pack on September 15, 2018, 07:50:08 AM
I think of "strong" as front to back but I think people refer to "strong" as side motion. So I never really understand a question or statement with the word "strong" in it.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: Bowler19525 on September 15, 2018, 10:20:39 AM
The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix don't count as asyms. The Code X, Black Ops series, do count.

The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix start out with mild asymmetry which is what makes them well suited as benchmark asymmetricals.  Depending on the layout, they can easily end up with the same intermediate diff that the Code X and Black Ops balls start with.

If they don't count as asymmetricals, then the manufacturers wouldn't be allowed to advertise them as such.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: DP3 on September 15, 2018, 10:25:34 AM
Lit Pearl despite the numbers and the "pearl" has a very Benchmark type shape for a high end ball. It's clean and smooth and responds to speed adjustments really well. Logix is also a great ball for medium-ish THS. It's also clean and smooth downlane. They are very forgiving off the dry because they don't jack knife left, but they can still cover a big amount of boards for a pearl.  I'm surprised how well both of these balls roll on the fresh for me.

Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: tkkshop on September 15, 2018, 10:38:33 AM
Every company has something to offer. Motiv Villain is my choice.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: Impending Doom on September 15, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
This is going to sound nuts, but I'll go with a Black Ops, 50*5*65 with 2000. I know exactly which way to go from there.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: leftybowler70 on September 15, 2018, 02:21:52 PM
Original Cell/Covert Revolt.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: todvan on September 15, 2018, 05:16:32 PM
I didn't think of it as a benchmark originally, but being lower tilt my DV8 Creed really acts as a benchmark ball for me. Easy to see if it works or what I can change to. DV8 has also had the Vandal series which all seemed to be more middle of the road. If you're higher in tilt or rotation maybe a little too sideways

Yes, I have higher tilt and higher rotation - need more control usually.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: sneaky PETE on September 15, 2018, 06:40:54 PM
wouldn't all the code series be good for that.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: 2handedrook12 on September 16, 2018, 11:00:32 AM
The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix don't count as asyms. The Code X, Black Ops series, do count.
Their asymmetry isn't strong enough. .008  and above count asasyms.

The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix start out with mild asymmetry which is what makes them well suited as benchmark asymmetricals.  Depending on the layout, they can easily end up with the same intermediate diff that the Code X and Black Ops balls start with.

If they don't count as asymmetricals, then the manufacturers wouldn't be allowed to advertise them as such.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on September 16, 2018, 11:27:49 AM
The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix don't count as asyms. The Code X, Black Ops series, do count.
Their asymmetry isn't strong enough. .008  and above count asasyms.

The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix start out with mild asymmetry which is what makes them well suited as benchmark asymmetricals.  Depending on the layout, they can easily end up with the same intermediate diff that the Code X and Black Ops balls start with.

If they don't count as asymmetricals, then the manufacturers wouldn't be allowed to advertise them as such.

Mo and even Track have shown how its not hard to have both a symmetric or asym ball based on the drilling.  Tend to agree though don't really start seeing the classic asym traits until reach .01 int diff or above unless you use exotic drillings or something.
Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: MI 2 AZ on September 16, 2018, 12:01:09 PM
The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix don't count as asyms. The Code X, Black Ops series, do count.
Their asymmetry isn't strong enough. .008  and above count asasyms.

The Kinetics, Honey Badger, and Matrix start out with mild asymmetry which is what makes them well suited as benchmark asymmetricals.  Depending on the layout, they can easily end up with the same intermediate diff that the Code X and Black Ops balls start with.
If they don't count as asymmetricals, then the manufacturers wouldn't be allowed to advertise them as such.


I thought the definition of asymmetrical was based on the core shape, not the dynamics of the ball?

Title: Re: Benchmark Asymmetric
Post by: Impending Doom on September 16, 2018, 01:34:56 PM
.008 is the point where assymetry starts to show, but I don't really notice it until you get into the .015 arena.