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revTrex

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Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« on: May 08, 2008, 02:37:43 AM »
Alright, guys, here goes:

As I work for BJI, I'm trying to put together a list of the 50 greatest bowlers to NEVER BOWL OR WIN in the PBA. This in response to the PBA putting together a list of the 50 greatest PBA players...

So...what I guess I'm asking you guys to do is just start naming some guys. I've got the obvious ones -- Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Blouin, John "Count" Gengler, Hank Marino, Ned Day -- but I want to hear what you guys think. I know a ton about the pre-PBA years...but not so much about those bowlers who rolled outside the PBA while the PBA was in existence. That means a lot of folks -- the action bowlers, the amateurs, etc. -- might go unnoticed, and I don't want that to happen. I want this list to be as complete as possible, so the more you got, the better it'll be. ON SECOND EDIT: Also note that you can now suggest people who never won a title...

After I compile all the names (from here, from my own research, from talking to other experts, etc.), BJI is going to rank these, just like the PBA is doing. Haven't exactly established how this will happen, but it'll most likely be a panel of experts.

Sound good? Start naming! ON EDIT: If you want, when you post a name, add a little info about that person. It takes a lot of time to research names, so if you've got info (where they're from, why they should be on the list), add that if possible!

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 06:17:58 PM »
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Give Dan Maclelland and O'Grady some time and they'll probably not be on this list anymore.
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Honestly, as good as O'Grady and MacLelland are -- I've bowled against them -- they probably won't make the list. Consider: I'm dealing with over a 100 years of history. What accomplishments they've achieved -- again, as awesome as they are -- pale in comparison to the Varipapas, Genglers, Marinos...and even to the Hoffmans, Belmontes, Macks, etc. O'Grady and MacLelland aren't at that level yet...but they might be, in time, provided that they stay at it.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 07:03:58 PM »
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Give Dan Maclelland and O'Grady some time and they'll probably not be on this list anymore.
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Honestly, as good as O'Grady and MacLelland are -- I've bowled against them -- they probably won't make the list. Consider: I'm dealing with over a 100 years of history. What accomplishments they've achieved -- again, as awesome as they are -- pale in comparison to the Varipapas, Genglers, Marinos...and even to the Hoffmans, Belmontes, Macks, etc. O'Grady and MacLelland aren't at that level yet...but they might be, in time, provided that they stay at it.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2008, 07:26:01 PM »
Updated list of possible bowlers:

1.   Count Gengler
2.   Jimmy Smith
3.   Hank Marino
4.   Andy Varipapa
5.   Jimmy Blouin
6.   Jason Belmonte
7.   Osku Palermaa
8.   Tim Mack
9.   Richie Wolfe
10.   Brad Angelo
11.   Paul Moor
12.   Derek Eoff
13.   Bill Hoffman
14.   David O’Sullivan
15.   Jeff Carter
16.   Bob Purzycki
17.   Jeff Klein
18.   Buddy Bomar
19.   Ned Day
20.   Joe Falcaro
21.   Joe Scribner
22.   Joe Norris
23.   Richie Hornreich
24.   Rudy Kasimakis
25.   Steve Nagy
26.   Jeff Kidder
27.   Graz Castellano
28.   Lindy Faragalli
29.   Therm Gibson
30.   Ed Kawolics
31.   Junie McMahon
32.   Joe Wilman
33.   Nelson Burton, Sr.
34.   Alfie Cohn
35.   Allie Brandt
36.   Adolph Carlson
37.   John Crimmins
38.   Frank Kartheiser
39.   Fred Bujack
40.   Mike Rose, Jr.
41.   Jeff Richgels
42.   John Socha
43.   Joe Jimenez
44.   John Delp III
45.   John Chacko Jr.
46.   John Voorhies
47.   Frank Thoma
48.   Mort Lindsey
49.   Harry Steers
50.   Harry Cohn
51.   Otto Stein Jr.
52.   Charley Daw
53.   Jim Spalding
54.   Rich Wonders
55.   Tore Torgensen
56.   Paeng Nepomuceno
57.   Paul Renteria
58.   David Haynes
59.   Mark Jensen
60.   Frank Benkovic
61.   Frank Caruana
62.   Ebber (Sarge) Easter
63.   William Knox
64.   Edward Krems
65.   Paul Krumske
66.   Walter Skang Mecurio
67.   Pat Patterson
68.   Rick Pollard
69.   Ron Pollard
70.   Junior Powell
71.   Billy Sixty
72.   Barney Spinella
73.   Phil Wolf
74.   George Young
75.   Bob Glass

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2008, 07:32:01 PM »
Scratch Glass.

Won on the Senior Tour.

I assumed non PBA card holders.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2008, 07:47:07 PM »
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Scratch Glass.

Won on the Senior Tour.

I assumed non PBA card holders.
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Could be PBA members...notice the slight change I made...and yeah, I should probably not allow Senior Tour winners (even if they never won on the Tour, per se)...


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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2008, 07:51:28 PM »
Go to actionbowlers.com and read about Ben McNevich and Dom LaBargo, two of NYCs best bowlers.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 07:56:12 PM »
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Thomas Leandersson.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2008, 07:58:54 PM »
i would have to say of the current exempt bowlers i would have to say lochetter, angelo, carter, cicone, kretzer, and newly exempt ken abner but i would venture to say that at least 2 of them will get one this season

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2008, 08:32:19 PM »
Mike Bixler, he's on the Ebonite Amateur staff.  Has toured in many countries, most notably in Japan (where he won countless tournaments).  And has also been very successful touring the U.S.
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2008, 08:50:04 PM »
Mike Rose Jr. was the runner up to the Rookie of the Year Award in 1993.

His performance in the USBC Open however speaks volumes. He has a chance to repeat as All-Events Champion.

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2008, 09:11:10 PM »
Ryan May
Sean Riccardi
Rory Kalaquin
JD Santalucia

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2008, 09:48:32 PM »
Paul Fleming?
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2008, 09:50:52 PM »
Frankie May?
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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2008, 10:15:12 PM »
Me, Michael J. Slatky (2 handed phenom), Daniel Sloat, Me

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Re: Best bowlers to never BOWL OR WIN in the PBA?
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2008, 10:15:21 PM »
John "Count" Gengler was from the early days of bowling.
Around 1920  I think possibly earlier.
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