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MTFD24

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Is it just me ?
« on: April 03, 2013, 11:06:51 AM »
I have been trying to "relearn" to bowl after suffering a disability, and subbing in a few leagues this season. My average is only up to the mid 180's, but I am having fun despite the literal pains, and low scores.

The Monday league is a 32 team (5 man) that has a wide array of ages, styles, and abilities, 90% of 230, and lots of brackets, pots, and big prize money. I have now been in the lineup 14 times. Old wood lanes, and very little oil, none outside 5, and the shot has not changed once all season. This past week was position round, and I found it quite amusing.

The opposing team did not have one bowler over 194 in average, and the low man was about 150. The funny part was not one of them arrived with less than 4 balls! One guy even came in with 7! We have one young guy that carries 3, the rest of us "old" guys carry 2.

We took 5 of the 7 points (lost middle game by 3 pins). These guys were all throwing the newest hook monsters, and complained all the way from too much oil and too dry....ROFLOL, how can it be both? My Shout with Extra Shine is even a bit much after about a game and a half to 2 games, and I don't have that much hand at all.

Is it just me, or do these guys need to spend some of their equipment dollars on lessons or/or practice, or is it just an ego thing?

Of course not one of them change lines, or hand positions, just kept changing from one aggressive ball to another.

Sorry for the long rant, but I can surely see why the sport is dying.
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 11:15:12 AM »
Better check your ego, Long Gone Daddy will be here any minute to throw all this in your face.  But yes, you're right.  Instead of practicing, they just go buy the next big thing and lug them around everywhere. This is obvious to everyone but LGD. 
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 11:51:33 AM »
I'm one of those guys who "drag" five balls with me to a THS league. A four ball Storm roller with a single ball bag on top. I use the spare ball of course(single ball bag), but will only use one of the four balls in the roller usually. I'm just too lazy to take the others out before I head out to bowl. LOL
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 12:07:23 PM »
I have a 3 ball bag, so I usually have all 3 filled... LoL!!  A solid, a pearl & a ? or fall back ball.

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 12:16:34 PM »
I think you're reading too much into the number of balls the guys are carrying. Are they misguided? Absolutely. They clearly need lessons and a bowling reality check. If they stick with it, they'll get it with time. Otherwise, they'll fall by the wayside as legions have before them.

I'm encouraged that they're at least looking for answers on how to get better, even if there initial attempt is wrong. The world is filled with bowlers who never attempt to get to the next level.

Cut them some slack and look at the positive.

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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2013, 12:52:59 PM »
I'm one of those guys who "drag" five balls with me to a THS league. A four ball Storm roller with a single ball bag on top. I use the spare ball of course(single ball bag), but will only use one of the four balls in the roller usually. I'm just too lazy to take the others out before I head out to bowl. LOL

Dam, Milo!!You and I even act, alike. Last night was the first time all season that I have NOT dragged 6 balls to the alley with me. I usually only throw two at the most, one if I get locked in, + my spare ball. Everyone always asks, "Why are you bringing in all those balls?" ......and the answer is, I like having options, but mostly I am just too daggone lazy to go through my selections and weed out what I need before I come in the alley....so I bring'em all!  ;D

Last night was the lone exception. The lanes have been getting exceedingly drier, the closer we get to the end of the season. They are always exceptionally dryish on position round, so I conceded and just brought in 4 balls....only!

To the original Poster: Yes, I too see it all the time. Guys with the latest and greatest heavy oilers, that absolutely refuse to change lines, and or hand positions, and then wonder how the lanes could possibly get so broken down and chopped up!!
But in my area, we have some seriously savvy bowlers as well. If you were to come out to bowl in this league, you would see some absolutely ancient bowling balls being thrown, and being thrown well, at that!

Gold and Teal Rhinos; Burgundy and Black Faball Hammers; oil-soaked Big Ones; Hammer Blades; and even occasional Columbia Messengers.
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2013, 01:09:38 PM »
I took 12 with me to practice last night!

Granted, I basically drilled a whole new arsenal, and had only thrown 3 of them in a candlelight setting once, and last night, I followed a woman's league filled with a bunch of ladies using plastic pushing the oil down, over and back up. The pattern at this house is pretty long in the middle, with some spark off of 8, but nothing inside of it. Plenty of tug room.

I used to run the shop in this house, so I get the general idea of what to use, and if I was bowling on the fresh, I would probably bring 4. Plastic, something weaker (Hook Hybrid in this case), something strong and smooth (Freight Train in this case) and something I could get in and really bump it off the dry (Look, Black Eagle, or War Eagle)

Out of all the stuff I threw last night, have to say the War Eagle is pretty freakin awesome. On what I was bowling on, pretty good looking.

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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 01:14:51 PM »
1st and foremost I have no delusions on my abilities, or lack thereof. I am just a grateful that I am able to at least toss a ball again. I just truly do not understand why a bowler with a 150-190 average needs to carry in two 3 ball rollers or a four ball and a 3 ball roller stuffed with heavy oilers. especially since the house shot has not changed in close to 30 weeks, and is terribly dry.

I do see the same type of thing in another league I sub in, but the shot is always changing from week to week, and the guys toting in more than a four ball arsenal are almost all over 220 averages. And they also carry more than just "hook monsters".

I did take 4-6 with me when I went to a new house, or to a tournament, because there was no way of truly knowing beforehand what the shot would be like. I guess I am just an "old timer" who prefers to change speed, line, rotation, etc. So I'll just bring my two ball bag, with my Shout, and my next newest ball, my Cell Pearl.

May everyone have good carry and take out those corner pins!
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 01:25:45 PM »
Impending Doom, there was a time before I was hit with this disability, I too would take 4-6 balls to practice, especially any new drilled orbs, as it allowed me to fine tune my knowledge of the difference in reactions.

But this house has not had one iota of difference all year, not in my personal experience of over a dozen weeks spread out, nor by others accounts of whom I trust. That being some very high level players whom I have had the pleasure of playing against throughout the area for years.

Someday I would hope that these bowlers learn the value of a good arsenal, and some good coaching. They may enjoy the game more, and be less frustrated.
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 04:23:43 PM »
I take 4 balls, primarily because I have a 4 ball roller. One plastic, one light oil, one heavy oil and one hybrid with a little shine. I normally use no more thatn two balls on any night, and can get by with one and my spare ball. I bowl in a house with worn out old wooden lanes and an oil machine that has a mind of its own. The shot varies from bad dry to slick and not much free hook for the first game.

By the third game, there is always some hold in the track area.

For practice sessions, I may carry as many as six balls. Just depends on what I have drilled up new, and what surface changes, ball reactions or lane play positions, that I want to work on.

For tournament shots on lanes I am not familiar with, I carry 8 or 9 balls. Not because I have any intent to use them all. However, some balls (storm natural, Chainsaw, Pin under Nexus, etc)  are very condition specific and its nice to have them when you need them.

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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 09:15:44 PM »
I take 5 usually. I have my own drill setup and get bowling balls cheap so when a ball cost you $60-100 max drilled it is easier to do then for many who pay retail at a shop. Still I typically end up using one ball all night maybe two if the first ball is something more aggressive.

Usually I go with what ever ball I am in the mood to try and if it is just way out of my comfort zone or not matching up at all then change to something else before the lights came on.

Depending on what bowling ball you select you can easily get by on a league night or in many tournaments with two bowling balls.
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Re: Is it just me ?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 09:08:02 AM »
I'm one of those guys who "drag" five balls with me to a THS league. A four ball Storm roller with a single ball bag on top. I use the spare ball of course(single ball bag), but will only use one of the four balls in the roller usually. I'm just too lazy to take the others out before I head out to bowl. LOL

This.  And half the time I'm rushing to get out the door, I can't remember what's in each bag and don't have time to check, so I just grab both.  99% of the time, I use the same 2, so I could get by just fine with just my 3-ball roller
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 09:35:02 AM »
I'm one of those guys who "drag" five balls with me to a THS league. A four ball Storm roller with a single ball bag on top. I use the spare ball of course(single ball bag), but will only use one of the four balls in the roller usually. I'm just too lazy to take the others out before I head out to bowl. LOL

This.  And half the time I'm rushing to get out the door, I can't remember what's in each bag and don't have time to check, so I just grab both.  99% of the time, I use the same 2, so I could get by just fine with just my 3-ball roller

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 12:05:29 PM »
I've been bowling so bad the last couple seaons this year I have brought 2 balls. My power groove and a spare ball. Only avg 201 on an easy shot but avg is about the same as lugging in a bunch of gear. I thought I should try to practice, speed, angles, accuracy, adjustments rather then dragging out another ball that I have no idea where I was going to spray it anyway. I still suck but got some kudos last week for shoot 727 with a PG but it proves the ball is not everything. First time I felt right in a while and repeated shots. Something I haven't been able to do with anyball.