Post by: lsf_21 on February 03, 2011, 12:59:34 PM
Im suffering from bowling in a house that apparently cant clean anything... My whole ball is getting covered in what is either belt marks or gunk from the backstop and I cannot get it off the ball for the life of me.
Things I have tried
Ebonite powerhouse
Alcohol
Acetone
Storm Reacta-shine? I think is what it is.
Post by: bighook69 on February 03, 2011, 09:09:38 PM
Post by: Norm3v on February 03, 2011, 09:14:46 PM
+1 on the Clean and Dull. Haven't had ONE mark or smudge that I couldn't get off with it.
Post by: BrunsWolf on February 03, 2011, 11:48:08 PM
I just bought a bottle of Lane Masters I-Tack cleaner and really like the results I'm getting. Keeps dull balls dull and polished balls polished. I really like using it on top of a fresh coat of polish to help the ball traction more on the backend.
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Post by: lsf_21 on February 04, 2011, 01:24:28 AM
Post by: Aloarjr810 on February 04, 2011, 04:05:06 AM
Hook-it is one of the strongest spray cleaners, good for the quick clean up at the lanes.
Clean'N Dull is one of the best deep cleaners, but is better suited for after bowling clean-up. Do to it being a gel type cleaner.
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Post by: cory867 on February 04, 2011, 04:37:42 AM
Kegel Revive
Post by: storm22 on February 04, 2011, 04:44:32 AM
I just got a bottle of 409 Cleaner this weekend (the house hold stuff). Mixed it 50/50 with alcohol. Only been using it a week but with great results so far. I was looking for Simple Green but couldn't find it at Shoprite or Target. The 409 was a huge bottle (32 oz.) at Target for $2.17 on clearance. It'll probably last me a year! Can't beat it when a little bottle of ball cleaner is $7-$15 and it does the same thing.
Balls in the bag and order they come out:
#1-Anarchy #2- Virtual Energy #3- Virtual Gravity #4- Gravity Shift #5- Big Hit (spare and really dry)
#6- Teal Rhino Pro (oldie but a goodie)
#1-Anarchy #2- Virtual Energy #3- Virtual Gravity #4- Gravity Shift #5- Big Hit (spare and really dry)
#6- Teal Rhino Pro (oldie but a goodie)
Post by: Bigmike on February 04, 2011, 05:50:55 AM
Jared,
Where did you get that cleaner at? Our shop can not find it thru our distributors.
Lanemasters sent us a sample bottle and I just found it again last week. Dead on accurate with what you posted. I used it to really clean some stuff up and it left my microfiber towel dark black with dirt residue. If you can hack the smell, it is a great deep cleaner.
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Post by: charlest on February 04, 2011, 06:03:43 AM
Bigmike:
Buddies had the 4 oz bottle. Now I only see the 32 oz bottle on their website.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Post by: tlyrpr7 on February 04, 2011, 07:06:15 AM
PJ'S Tacky Snap is approved and on the list of approved cleaners on bowl.com. I make it I was having tha same problem at one house I bowl at it will take off belt marks and black sciff marks instantly just wipe them off.
If any one is interested send me a email Taylorplt2r7@aol.com there are reviews on bbe also
Post by: scotts33 on February 04, 2011, 07:48:55 AM
Scott
Post by: luvtobowl2 on February 04, 2011, 11:43:00 AM
Add me to the list of Lanemasters advocates. Been using it for a couple of years now. Gets stuff off that nothing else would I had, Storm Reacta Clean and Ebonite Powerhouse. Use it after every set. By mine from Buddiesproshop.com.
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Post by: HiiiRolla on April 27, 2011, 09:35:02 PM
I am an avid league/tournament bowler and travel quite a bit from the Atlanta area. I used to use Ebonite Energizer and have used Neo Tac's Liquid Nitro. Both of these are good but ever since I was shown Tac-Up there is no going back. Its in a round, white bottle with blue lettering. Everywhere ive seen this stuff at the pro shop operators are only using it. I believe they said its not even a year old and is spreading around like wildfire. The guy who showed it to me cleaned half my ball with it and the other half with Energizer and it wasnt even close. The towel on the Tac-Up side was much darker and if your hands were big enough you can palm it from the top like a basketball.
Post by: lsf_21 on April 27, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
Post by: bpanes on April 27, 2011, 10:40:05 PM
Here is some info for anyone interested in Tac-Up:
Founded in 2010
*USBC Approved Anytime
*Formulated to clean all surfaces
Call 828-256-6333 or email at MSCCEMAIL@aol.com for questions or to place an order.
*Formulated to clean all surfaces
Call 828-256-6333 or email at MSCCEMAIL@aol.com for questions or to place an order.
MSCC is a 30 year existing business that specializes in the manufactering of degreasers, car soaps, and other specialty products. TAC-UP is a new and exciting product we have formulated specifically for bowling balls. TAC-UP can be used ANYTIME and works well on ALL surfaces.
Post by: lsf_21 on April 27, 2011, 11:55:43 PM
Whats the price?
Post by: bpanes on April 28, 2011, 12:07:11 AM
I actually just found this info online after reading this thread. I sent them an email regarding pricing. I'll post it up when they respond.
Post by: Smash49 on April 28, 2011, 04:32:40 AM
For everyday use Zapp-it and for deeper cleaning dish soap and very warm water. I also like the Lanemasters stuff but it smells really bad.
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Post by: Pozz on April 28, 2011, 10:41:33 AM
The best cleaner hands down, although it is not USBC approved, is Tenth Frame Ultra Clean. Nothing keeps the ball cleaner.
Post by: Medichal on April 28, 2011, 12:06:15 PM
legends still one great ball cleaner. Also use a little dab ofacetone if you need to get tough grime and belt marks off the balls coverstock.
Post by: TheFreeAgent on April 28, 2011, 01:43:18 PM
REFS: MrEddie(BBE), notsohotshot(BR), akanayte(UTA), Tywithay(BBE), BKloss(BR), therealdeal24(BR), lsf_21(BR), 308d76d (BR)
Formerly RotoStorm2008
Post by: Brickguy221 on April 28, 2011, 07:52:30 PM
Where do you buy it and what is the price?
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Post by: TheFreeAgent on April 28, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
Not sure we normally buy 100-200 bottles a time. You buy it from the factory. There info was posted earlier.
REFS: MrEddie(BBE), notsohotshot(BR), akanayte(UTA), Tywithay(BBE), BKloss(BR), therealdeal24(BR), lsf_21(BR), 308d76d (BR)
Formerly RotoStorm2008
Post by: charlest on April 29, 2011, 04:50:31 AM
It's just very expensive acetone. Check the label. You can get pure acetone cheaper at Lowe's or Home Depot by the quart for $7.
Actually Lanemasters cleaner is better than pure acetone. I test-compared the two.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Edited by charlest on 4/29/2011 at 4:51 AM
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on April 29, 2011, 05:17:49 AM
Put some Sunshine in these opinions and go back to your high school science class and actually publish your experiement. You know, the one where there is a hypotheis, methodology, results, and conclusion. Right now all you guys are doing is writing new marketing blurbs that can go on the bottle of the cleaner.
Turn that frown upside down!
Post by: charlest on April 29, 2011, 02:38:28 PM
If only Lanemasters were paying me to write their marketing ..
If only you had a brain ...
But I do have the Ignore function, and so you are gone.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Edited by charlest on 4/29/2011 at 2:44 PM
Post by: Hogsharley on April 29, 2011, 02:43:35 PM
Ultimate Black Magic Rejuvenator (orange label)
http://www.ultimatebowling.com/ballcare2.asp
3 holes of fun!!
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on April 29, 2011, 02:58:48 PM
What exactly is it with this guy? He makes these unequivocal statements that LaneMasters is the best cleaner, says he tested it, but when you ask for proof, he uses the iggy list. What the hell. How did you test it? Where did you test it. Just another BR member with an opinion. Please stop confusing your opinions with facts.
BTW, the iggy list works both ways. Somehow I don't think I'll miss your opinions about anything to do with bowling.
Turn that frown upside down!
Edited by Sunshine n Lollipops on 4/29/2011 at 3:01 PM
Post by: vadertyme03 on April 30, 2011, 06:21:39 PM
Moosin' ain't easy!
Post by: mrfish on April 30, 2011, 09:57:59 PM
Lanemasters seems to work the best. It removes the belt marks easily without having to scrub. I even kind of like the smell. I don't know what everyone is complaining about regarding the smell.
You can't go wrong with the Lanemasters cleaner. It's the best.
Scott
Post by: TheFreeAgent on April 30, 2011, 11:03:42 PM
Still in the old urethane days I see. My dad has had a black and gold messenger since the day it came out and cleans it 3 times a week with acetone and no damage. Acetone softened urethane, Ive always cleaned everything with acetone and it has never softened or warped a ball.
REFS: MrEddie(BBE), notsohotshot(BR), akanayte(UTA), Tywithay(BBE), BKloss(BR), therealdeal24(BR), lsf_21(BR), 308d76d (BR)
Formerly RotoStorm2008
Post by: brett_dubbin on April 30, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Just Keeping it Real!
Post by: HiiiRolla on May 24, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
I ran out of Tac-Up and had recently moved to SW Georgia. There are 2 centers in the area, one pro shop here doesnt have it yet and the other was sold out but I was able to find it at bowlingball.com
Post by: DON DRAPER on May 25, 2011, 04:12:45 AM
Post by: HiiiRolla on May 25, 2011, 06:16:07 AM
Ive have also tryed Simple Green and you have to use more of it to get anywhere near the same result as far as clean goes and it doesnt come close to the tackiness. The pro shop guy who sold me the 8oz Tac Up the first time explained that you could get a minimum of 1200 pump sprays out of the bottle. All you need is 3 or 4 sprays on each side to have the desired results. Thats over 100 cleanings I get out of 1 bottle. . So I think as a bowler id rather buy something that costs 7-10 cents per cleaning and make sure its done the right way for the longevity of my coverstock. Also the pro shop guys use the quart bottles and they clean balls at $3-$6 a pop. That means they can clean upwards of 400 bowling balls with 1 quart bottle that they paid 20 something dollars for. With Tac Up they can clean a ball in under 20 seconds with their spinners. So if you were a pro shop owner thats gonna make possibly over $2,000 profit cleaning balls from one quart bottle, would you want something that costs equivalent to a few bucks per quart that works half ass, or something that costs 20 something thats gonna work siginficantly better and use much less time and effort? I enjoy math and I do believe the answer is obvious. 
Post by: MK on May 25, 2011, 08:18:57 AM
Be sure to read the article posted in this site. About halfway down is a good discussion on ball cleaners.
MK
Post by: Monster Pike on May 25, 2011, 08:35:01 AM
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Post by: themagician on May 25, 2011, 08:51:09 AM
A mix of Simple Green, Isopropyl Alcohol and then diluted with water makes a great ball cleaner for dirt cheap.
For actual bowling ball cleaners though, the Motiv gel like stuff and Clean n Dull are fantastic for getting that really stuck on gunk off.
Post by: TKelly on May 25, 2011, 09:07:42 AM
I also use the Simple Green/Isopropyl Alcohol mix... It has been an excellent cleaner. I also use Clean and Dull another great cleaner when th gear is gunk'd up
Post by: MK on May 25, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
OK. Help me out here. What are the pros and cons for diluting Simple Green with Alcohol versus water? The FAQ link I posted earlier recommends diluting with water (see inserted text below) but every other post I have seen says to dilute with alcohol. Which is better and why?
MK
CLEANING
I recommend cleaning after every session with any of the ABC approved cleaners and giving the ball a deep cleansing once a month using the soaking technique. I use Simple Green, Orange Clean, Purple Power, etc (diluted 4 parts water to 1 part cleaner) for deep cleansing. I prefer these cleaners over regular dish soap due to their increased degreasing properties.
Post by: themagician on May 25, 2011, 09:31:13 AM
I mix the simple green with the alcohol and then dilute it. The reason I use the alcohol is because it makes the ball cleaner want to evaporate a little bit when you clean the ball, you don't end up with a lot of excess on the ball that needs to be wiped off and it makes it more effective to gunk on the ball to an extent.
Post by: HiiiRolla on May 25, 2011, 09:45:16 AM
Products such as Simple Green, Purple Power, Greased Lightning etc are all multi purpose cleaner/degreasers. They are designed for some dilution based on application (wheels, carpet, grills etc.), but majority of people like to use them strong. Any of the above mixed with alcohol at whatever ratio would clean the ball fairly well. The difference is that bowling ball cleaners are designed to do a great job cleaning bowling balls. I have tryed and heard of all the mentioned methods and until I was shown Tac Up I would have agreed with most opinions.
Post by: Nails on May 25, 2011, 09:53:55 AM
I'm pretty sure the base material for all performance balls is urethane. Resins and particles may be added for performance, but the balls are still urethane in nature. A quick touch up with acetone probably won't hurt, even over time, but mistakenly leaving an acetone soaked rag on the ball for a while will ruin it.
Telling it like it is.
Post by: kidlost2000 on May 25, 2011, 10:38:23 AM
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: on May 25, 2011, 11:15:15 AM
Okay. I will toss in my 2 cents worth.
I used to use a 50/50 mixture of Simple Green and water for years. I also had ball reps for 2 different companies express how well they thought it worked for them. They will remain anonymous here.
The key is to give it time to work. If you want to spray it on and immediately wipe it off your results may be less than desired. However, if you will show a little patience, and give it 30 seconds to break down oil and dirt left on the cover you will likely be impressed. I could get any ball as tacky as any other cleaner for a small fraction of the price. For daily cleaning the product is amazing, in my opinion. It is strong enough to break down motor oil off your driveway, so why would it not be strong enough to clean a little dirt and oil from your bowling ball?
There are great products on the market that may work faster, and maybe better, but there needs to be a cost comparison to decide whether they are that much better. Just my .02...
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
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Post by: Brickguy221 on May 25, 2011, 02:11:37 PM
Clay, you mentioned that you "used to use" the 50/50 Simple Green and Water mix. What do you use now in place of that mix?
On the side here, I too have used that mix as well as 50-50 & 66-33 Simple Green & 91% Rubbing Alcohol mix, 33-33-33 water-alcohol-Simple Green mix and etc. with no complaints. I always seem to go back to ball cleaners though such as Valentino's Remedy RX, Black Magic Rejuvinator, Ole Roys Front 9, and etc. thinking they are better since they were designed specifically for bowling balls, but in reality, they may be no better than different Simple Green mixes, I don't know.
Anyhow just wondering what you use now in place of the Simple Green-Water mix you used to use.
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Post by: Monster Pike on May 25, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
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Post by: on May 25, 2011, 02:41:25 PM
Brick,
Will send PM.
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Post by: abrown on May 25, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
lanemasters is the best ive ever used if u can stand the smell, but sounds like they need to clean there curtain and belts to help reduce some of that