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what is correct timing? also another question...
« on: December 16, 2014, 02:18:25 PM »
I've heard many different teachings about timing and I am wondering if timing is relative to the type of bowler.

These are what I've heard about correct timing:

At the end of the slide, the....
-Foot and ball arrive at the foul line the same time.
-Foot arrives at the foul line a split second before the ball.
-Foot arrives at the foul line, plants and the ball passes the foot a split second later.

Also, Mark Baker talks about the slide foot and the arm on the down swing being parallel to the floor. One of his "HOF" positions...but, does this work with bowlers with shorter back swings? For those back swings that end parallel to the floor and still in the power step?

I like to see these different styles of coaches/teachings and being an ex teaching assistant in another sport, it's pretty interesting. Not much is going on from the end of the approach to the foul line, but in that short of a distance, so many things are going on and/or going wrong......

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Re: what is correct timing? also another question...
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 03:18:57 PM »
I don't think there is a true answer to this. Found this article. Not sure if the system was ever implemented into the USBC Courses. This article was written in 2008. :

http://www.bowlingdigital.com/bowl/node/4344

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System will be another tool to help bowling coaches teach the sport

 Continuing to advance the sport of bowling through better coaching techniques, the United States Bowling Congress is developing a more modern and flexible system of measuring timing for bowlers. Timing is the relationship between the bowling ball's location during the swing and a bowler's steps during the approach and delivery.

 Devised by the USBC Coaching staff, the new method will more precisely than ever measure and classify the positions of a bowling ball during the swing relative to the bowler's footsteps. Those new categories will replace terminology that many believe is inaccurate and outdated for contemporary bowler styles.
 
Eventually the measurement formula will be incorporated into USBC Coaching certification courses. The idea is that USBC coaches will use the new system to better teach bowlers how to play the game.

 "This new system of measuring and organizing timing points during the approach will enable bowling coaches to create better leverage for their athletes at the foul line, especially those who use a more modern, powerful style," said Junior Team USA head coach and USBC Gold coach Rod Ross.

 For decades, timing for bowlers generally has been classified into three categories: 'early' timing (the ball arrives at the foul line before the slide foot stops), 'late' timing (the ball arrives at the foul line after the slide foot stops) and 'perfect' timing (the slide foot and ball arrive together at the foul line).

 The new USBC system includes terms such as 'leverage timing' (formerly late timing) to describe a bowler who releases the ball after the slide foot has come to a complete stop and 'roller timing' (formerly early timing) to portray a bowler who releases the ball onto the lane in a smoother fashion. The new system categorizes the locations of a bowling ball and feet in a series of zones depending on the location of the ball in the swing during each step. The terms also emphasize the fact that correct timing may be different for each bowler.

 "Describing a bowler as having 'early' or 'late' timing carries negative connotations," said Co-Director of USBC Coaching David Garber. "It implies that the timing is bad and needs to be corrected. That is not necessarily the case. When looking at other factors in a bowler's delivery, the timing may be right for that person."

 Power is an essential element in the games of many of today's top bowlers. But those players may generate that power using different types of timing. For example, Denny's PBA Tour stars Tommy Jones and Jason Couch find that the best way to create maximum revs, ball speed and entry angle is by using 'leverage' (formerly late) timing. Conversely, PBA Hall of Famer Pete Weber generates tremendous revs and hitting power with 'roller' (formerly early) timing.

 "In the sport of bowling, good timing, leverage and repeating your shots are keys to success," said Ross, who recently was named head coach of the USBC International Training Center, which will be built in Arlington, Texas. "Bowlers must achieve a balanced leverage position at the foul line to deliver a bowling ball with consistent speed, rotation and accuracy. That requires bowlers to have proper timing to coordinate their steps with the ball swing during the approach. Proper timing will vary from bowler to bowler."

 "This system represents how the scientific side of coaching in bowling helps coaches teach their students more effectively," Ross said.

 "USBC believes this system better reflects today's bowlers and the modern form of the sport," Ross said. "This is another tool that USBC coaches will have in their toolboxes when giving lessons. Coaches will have more specific data to work with when trying to teach their students to improve their bowling skills. The ultimate goal is to have more bowlers enjoying the sport and bowling better. That helps grow bowling. "

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Re: what is correct timing? also another question...
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 04:03:09 PM »
The word "plant" in the third alternative makes me nervous. I am not sure what benefit you get by planting or stopping abruptly, but that action will damage your knee in the long run (and maybe the short run).
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Re: what is correct timing? also another question...
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 04:30:22 PM »
The word "plant" in the third alternative makes me nervous. I am not sure what benefit you get by planting or stopping abruptly, but that action will damage your knee in the long run (and maybe the short run).

Like Wes M....lol no slide
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Re: what is correct timing? also another question...
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 05:51:37 PM »
Timing is individual...based on the person, their body type and personality...

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Re: what is correct timing? also another question...
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2014, 05:58:39 AM »
The word "plant" in the third alternative makes me nervous. I am not sure what benefit you get by planting or stopping abruptly, but that action will damage your knee in the long run (and maybe the short run).

Like Wes M....lol no slide

Yes; I think that Michael Haugen is another player who makes an abrupt stop at the line. He recently had surgery on his left knee to repair cartilage damage.
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Re: what is correct timing? also another question...
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2014, 12:08:14 PM »
Another book Ric? coolio :D

St. C....MH doesn't slide, it seems....it's like punching a wall. Over time something will break and it's not the wall...
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