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Juggernaut

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 I've had pretty good looks this last year quite often using my old Faball stuff along with an old Ebonite Nitro.  Averaged well over 200 (except for a 5 week period where the lane guy quit and the shot got "screwy") with the old stuff.

 Going into the next season, I was trying to find an original 15lb black Ebonite Turbo to add to my stuff, but was also wondering what some of you guys verdict was as far as old stuff from the 80's and 90's vs the new generation?

Incidentally, if you have any insight into where one of the old Turbos could be procured, I would appreciate the help.

Meanwhile, can anyone give me a "real world" comparison?  The new Tank Rampage looks interesting, as does the Visionary Crow.
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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2017, 11:19:57 AM »
I still recommend the new Burgundy hammer and the new Blue hammer for the very strong and much weaker alternatives to the old Urethane if you are looking for that controlled hybrid (between urethane and reactive) feel.  Both are under $100 new and can probably be gotten off Ebay for second hand for significantly less.  The problem with the old urethane from what I hear is mostly due to the arms race between the ball makers and the lane guy.  Modern lanes are much harder and slicker(more oil as modern soakers deplete heads bad otherwise) than a couple decades ago.  Lot to be said to going back to basics and bowling in say a plastic ball only league (vaguely remember seeing that mentioned on a league flyer recently).  More about skill than whose good with the ball spinner and has deep pockets.
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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2017, 11:40:45 AM »
Accuse them of not having enough CRANK, then flex.


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Then threaten to sit on them? :P

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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2017, 11:44:43 AM »
More about skill than whose good with the ball spinner and has deep pockets.

It's more about skill regardless. Good maintenance and constant new equipment is nice, but actual good bowling still comes out on top. Having the tools to succeed =/= having the skills to succeed. Don't fall into the trap of thinking those that have and spend the money on a bunch of new stuff have a big advantage. That's a bad place to be.

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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2017, 12:14:41 PM »
I love the "fake urethane" in the blue hammer lol.... I think I'll try the burgundy one for winter leagues. I've seen it in action and I was liking what I saw, really easy length and smooth backend.
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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2017, 01:11:58 PM »

Then threaten to sit on them? :P

 Now THAT might get their attention! 😈
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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2017, 01:25:43 PM »
I actually had to polish my Burgundy as it will hook at your feet sometimes and polish reduces having to worry about it crossing the head pin and balling down for most THS.  Plus it is easy to knock the polish off if you hit heavier oil which the Burgundy can handle remarkably well if scuffed (super versatile ball).  About the only conditions the Burgundy can't handle (granted I haven't thrown on many sport patterns) are what the Blue Hammer is perfect for.  I guess some of the storm pieces (hy-road, IQ tour, etc) have more miss room than the Burgundy but they also have the more traditional reactive/hybrid/pearl shapes too.  As for spending money gives you an advantage now I am a bit older and more secure financially but getting back in game after a long lay off trust me its remarkably easy to throw a 120 with a $200 ball (scandal pearl and THS not match made in heaven sometimes) lol.  I also bowled with plastic in the late 80s/early 90s as a teen/college kid (and had more than a few 200s) and I remember conditions back then being far more of crap shoot (and the damn machines breaking down a lot more) so not all was milk and honey.  Was nice to see people into bowling as more than just an excuse to drink though.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 01:30:42 PM by HackJandy »
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Re: Still using old school urethane, or going to new school stuff?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2017, 12:12:41 AM »
To complete what I said earlier my blue hammer finally came and I got it drilled and rolled my first open farting around series with it tonight.  All I can say is perfect compliment to Burgundy hammer.  The conditions were drier than usual (fancy that with lots of open free summer pass bowling at AMF/Brunswick in the area) and I found my Burgundy was crossing over so after about 2 or 3 frames I put it away and switched to my blue hammer the rest of the night and was greatly impressed.  It carries as well as the Burgundy just tamed down with zero worries about the dry.  Was weird to only have one ball on the approach though.  Actually the only negative is whether I will be able to replace my plastic spare ball with it.  I want to throw on more conditions with it to see but afraid it might not be straight enough.  Its definitely stronger than my plastic but thinking about it there was not one spare where I hit my usual target and it missed.  Maybe just takes a bit more time and confidence and won't be a problem (with my back, 3 balls are all I can carry except perhaps to tournaments).  I am starting to regret less and less becoming more of a Hammer man than a Stormer lol especially as a stroker who generally prefers down and in track bowling as long as I can get away with it.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2017, 12:43:27 AM by HackJandy »
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