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Post by: triggerman on October 15, 2007, 03:40:02 PM
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I hope the people that bought cases are happy...I just wanted one!
I thought the same thing on friday until I called an hour ago....i must be the lucky ones to get ONE order processed.....
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Post by: MegaMav on October 15, 2007, 04:53:31 PM
I got mine, I'm making a point for those who werent fortunate to see this within the 12 hour window it was available.
Whenever something crazy like this comes up, there is always someone who goes overboard and ruins it for everyone else.
Look at christmas time with the bowlingball.com gift certificate offer, and the person that decided to ruin it.
It happens, think about the community when this type of deal comes up, instead of being greedy and nailing down 5 cases.
A lot of people wanted a ravage since it was disco'd, it would have been nice to see the entire community get a fair share, instead of a quick cash grab.
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What happened at christmas at bowlingall.com?
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Post by: bassace on October 15, 2007, 05:55:31 PM
Order number 11262079 is being shipped out via FedEx this afternoon and the tracking number is 102050031129642.
Order number 11262112 is also being shipped out via FedEx this afternoon with tracking number 102050031129703.
Please allow 12-24 hours for FedEx to upload the tracking numbers from today into their system. Have a wonderful day!
Post by: J_Mac on October 15, 2007, 07:50:14 PM
Date: 10/12/2007 10:49
Order Number: 11261998
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Post by: 1fife on October 15, 2007, 09:19:46 PM
sounds fishy
Post by: hammermike2000 on October 15, 2007, 09:27:17 PM
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Post by: J_Mac on October 15, 2007, 11:14:21 PM
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One of my friends and I got together and ordered a case each of the Archon & Paragon, then received a call saying they were out. Complete BULLSH&& and I will not be ordering from them again.
That's what you deserve for being greedy....
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Post by: hammermike2000 on October 15, 2007, 11:44:04 PM
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quote:One of my friends and I got together and ordered a case each of the Archon & Paragon, then received a call saying they were out. Complete BULLSH&& and I will not be ordering from them again.
That's what you deserve for being greedy....
yep. greedy POS. let somebody else get in on it.
F*** YOU. Some who only ordered 1 got screwed the same way; the # of balls has nothing to do with it. There wasn't a limit on how many an individual could buy. I'm not gonna say "hey, i want 4, but wait, maybe that stops 2 other people from getting 1 or 2 so I will only get 1". If i wanted to get that many, I could get that many. You just sound mad you didn't get any also.
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Post by: DP3 on October 15, 2007, 11:55:30 PM
Oh yeah, I will not be getting either ball. I need another ball like I need another hole in my head.
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Post by: RealBowler on October 16, 2007, 12:45:47 AM
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It sucks for those who didn't get any. It also sucks that in two weeks we'll be seeing these pop up all over here and ebay with markups in the $150-200 shipped range because of "how rare it is". In the end, in today's day of free commerce, and internet shopping, you can't tell people how to spend their money. There was no limit placed on these, so if you're going to be made at anyone, be mad at bowlers paradise for not regulating their sale a bit better.
Oh yeah, I will not be getting either ball. I need another ball like I need another hole in my head.
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Funny, I don't remember people jumping all over these when they were $80!
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=173133&ForumID=85&CategoryID=2
They've been on ebay for a while - $80-100 shipped.
I guess the Ravage is only a sought after ball when it's $40 shipped!
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Post by: MegaMav on October 16, 2007, 06:53:42 AM
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F*** YOU. Some who only ordered 1 got screwed the same way; the # of balls has nothing to do with it. There wasn't a limit on how many an individual could buy. I'm not gonna say "hey, i want 4, but wait, maybe that stops 2 other people from getting 1 or 2 so I will only get 1". If i wanted to get that many, I could get that many. You just sound mad you didn't get any also.
2 Cases is over the line, you got what you deserve, if you can afford it or not.
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Post by: hammermike2000 on October 16, 2007, 07:00:19 AM
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2 Cases is over the line, you got what you deserve, if you can afford it or not.
Explain to me where the "line" is defined, I would like to know.
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Post by: BKloss on October 16, 2007, 08:03:15 AM
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Post by: MegaMav on October 16, 2007, 09:17:25 AM
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Explain to me where the "line" is defined, I would like to know.
Use your head.
Do you honestly believe 2 cases was behind the line?
2 per person is enough.
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Post by: hammermike2000 on October 16, 2007, 10:23:56 AM
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quote:I'm 19 years old
well that certainly explains why he's so greedy, and angry once he gets flamed.
you got what you deserve. stop whining. grow up.
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I can see that you are so much older than I am. Good point there.
Anyways, after you pushed this topic off course, it doesn't matter how many my friend and I ordered, we still got the shaft along with many others on this thread. And I wonder, would they rather we order 1, or 20? Hard to answer that one...no wait, it isn't.
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Post by: qstick777 on October 16, 2007, 10:36:13 AM
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I'm 19 years old
well that certainly explains why he's so greedy, and angry once he gets flamed.
you got what you deserve. stop whining. grow up.
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All of y'all are being ridiculous. If you can afford to buy 10 balls, buy them. Bowlers Paradise did not impose a limit.
You get people that come on here and say "Oh, ball Y was the best ball I ever had! A ball return ate my ball. I wish I would have bought more when they were around!"
Friggin $30-40 shipped for a Ravage and you don't think people are going to stock up on the ball? You have a hard time finding a used ball for $40 shipped!
Somebody else already pointed out that these balls have been around for months at around $80. Given how "good" everybody says the Ravage is, $80 was a bargain.
Anyways, just my opinion on the matter. I bought 2 14lb Archons, and they still have 14s listed in stock.
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on October 16, 2007, 11:06:18 AM
Anyway, it sucks that orders were not filled, and it looks like they weren't done in a real orederly matter. But if they aren't going to impose a limit, then to hate on the people ordering cases is silly. Regardless of this unwritten "greedy" rule.
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Post by: hammermike2000 on October 16, 2007, 11:36:13 AM
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I'd rather get 8 calls than 1 from a piece of crap like you.
I don't think this statement is appropriate for the topic or statement of the thread; please keep to the topic at hand.
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Post by: triggerman on October 16, 2007, 12:05:47 PM
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Post by: T Brockette on October 16, 2007, 12:07:17 PM
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I dont have a beef with not getting a ball, didnt need it anyway and it was destined for the shop wall, but, since orders are handled electronically, I would think and assume that BP's mrp system (inventory control) should have shut off the order taking as soon as the stock of said item was depleted, if you are going to take orders electronically it should be tied to inventory so issues such as this do not arise. On rare occasions demand will outpace supply, that is understandable, but given the number of paid orders, that are now refused, they do indeed have a problem within the system
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Post by: MegaMav on October 16, 2007, 12:20:37 PM
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I dont have a beef with not getting a ball, didnt need it anyway and it was destined for the shop wall, but, since orders are handled electronically, I would think and assume that BP's mrp system (inventory control) should have shut off the order taking as soon as the stock of said item was depleted, if you are going to take orders electronically it should be tied to inventory so issues such as this do not arise. On rare occasions demand will outpace supply, that is understandable, but given the number of paid orders, that are now refused, they do indeed have a problem within the system
In the grand scheme of things, this case is an outlyer.
I wouldnt consider ebusiness in the bowing all market to be a high or even an on-demand market. Supply refeshes to the website from the database every 30 minutes is an acceptable timeframe.
When news broke of this on BR, im sure the people looking to hoard the stock jumped all over this at the same time. I'm sure there are more of you that havent come forward, I know of at least 1 other party that fits into this category.
Was this debacle a result of this type of "point of sale" system? Yes.
Was this debacle at the fault of bowlersparadise.com? Maybe, for lack of foresight.
Was this debacle the result of a few parties going overboard? Yes.
You can still point the finger at the greedy ones.
Thanks again for ruining it for everyone else.
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Post by: qstick777 on October 16, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
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I would think at this point, BP would've rather you bought 1-2 than 20, along with everyone else who bought a case. Why? Because then everyone would have a fair shot at them and BP wouldn't be getting stormed with angry calls and emails? Hmm, make sense, much? I'd say so.
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Actually, I don't think BP could give a rat's arse whether 1 person bought them all or if everybody had a "fair" chance to get only 1! As long as the payment for the ball and shipping goes through, they don't care where the balls end up!
What is your definition of "everyone would have a fair shot at them"?
If somebody hadn't posted (http://"everyone would have a fair shot at them") the link early, how many of us would've known about "the deal"? The date on the link is 10-15-07, yet it was posted on 10-11-07. I didn't get my BP e-mail until 10/15.....and almost all the balls were gone by then!
Again, for like the 4th time, these balls were available for purchase at least as far back as July. It was even made known that they were Ravage balls made for a Korean OEM. If they were that freakin great, you should've jumped on them. Obviously they are only great when they are discounted!
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Post by: J_Mac on October 16, 2007, 06:24:32 PM
My ball is currently in Reno, but I suppose it could be on the move again. I should have it bright and early Friday morning. 15lb. Archon, order #11261998, taken at 7:50 am CA time.
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Post by: T Brockette on October 16, 2007, 06:29:42 PM
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Post by: J_Mac on October 16, 2007, 06:49:25 PM
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You bought yours just after me. My number was 11261984. Glad you got one, wished I would have been a little luckier!
Tracy, I opted for the Archon due to color. Had I not spent the added $10 to get the Archon vs. the Paragon I'm sure I'd be sitting in the same boat as you.
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Post by: BOWL119 on October 16, 2007, 08:31:28 PM
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I dont have a beef with not getting a ball, didnt need it anyway and it was destined for the shop wall, but, since orders are handled electronically, I would think and assume that BP's mrp system (inventory control) should have shut off the order taking as soon as the stock of said item was depleted, if you are going to take orders electronically it should be tied to inventory so issues such as this do not arise. On rare occasions demand will outpace supply, that is understandable, but given the number of paid orders, that are now refused, they do indeed have a problem within the system
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Can not agree more. The store that I work at will not let an item be sold that the inventory says we do not even have. So Triggerman is right on the money.
But one angry phone call is better then 8 no matter how you want to look at it.
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Post by: agbarne1 on October 17, 2007, 12:30:27 AM
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on October 17, 2007, 12:41:54 AM
The site didn't stop it...they didn't steal, or take advantage of a flawed system knowing it was not right...they simply PAID for the amount of merchandise they wanted. If they choose to sell what they bought, who's to say that is wrong?
I can understand being dissapointed, but to call people greedy because they ordered or even TRIED to order more than one ball is a joke. You saw a deal, they saw a deal, you tried to order, they tried to order.....then eventually the site ran out of balls..you get your money back....it's all good.
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