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Bevo113

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Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« on: December 11, 2014, 08:16:24 AM »
Looking for a new ball to replace my VG Nano as my high flaring early breaking ball.  Our house uses a heavier volume shot and I typically start out with my IQ Fusion but can't play very deep with it on our fresh shot.  I enjoy my Hyper Cell as well it just breaks to late for my liking on this shot.  Which will fit the bill?

 

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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2014, 08:28:11 AM »
Personally I like what I've seen with the Crux and the Intellect.  Both balls are definitely cleaner through the heads, will give you more length and store energy better on the back.

2 other balls you could potentially consider are the Storm Zero Gravity and the Motiv Covert Revolt.  Both of these choices are very similar in that they're solid covers and have similar motions (Zero Gravity slightly more angular, Covert Revolt smoother overall) and they also allow you to still chase the oil. 

All of these will be a step below the Hyper Cell.  It'll just depend on the overall motion you're looking for.

For the little bit that I have seen of the Bad Ass (watched some of the tournament online from Abu Dhabi and Tommy Jones was throwing it), it seemed to check up a bit early on the 43' Tokyo pattern.  It reminded me of what my VG Nano did when I had it in terms of motion.  A few people in my league that have tried it also have mentioned it tends to be early and not exactly as advertised. 
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Antec

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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2014, 10:26:25 AM »
I can't speak of the Crux and the Mastermind Intellect, I have no experience with them and have heard good things about them. I am a Hammerhead, I have many Hammer balls. Don't get me wrong the Bad Ass is a decent medium oil ball, I am sorry, that's about it! But I don't know your style, it might match up well for you.

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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2014, 10:31:04 AM »
You have me a bit perplexed because, from what I've seen, Hyper Cells are usually earlier and smoother than balls like the Crux. Being a hybrid, the Crux clears the heads fairly easily, picks up in the midlane, and provides strong movement through the back end. If you're finding your Hyper Cell to be too late, then you're seeing something totally different from what I've seen out of that ball. As such, it makes the suggestion more difficult.

Personally, I think that both the Crux and the Intellect would be later than the Hyper Cell. Now, you could certainly put a really strong surface grit on one of those two and/or drill it to pick up early, but that would be forcing the issue a bit and possibly taking away what makes each of those two balls (Crux and Intellect) special.

With that being said, if you're set on the current list of options, I would go with the Bad Ass. That ball tends to be fairly early and smooth. If you don't want to stick with those options, you could consider an IQ Tour Nano, a Marvel-S, or the original Mastermind. I think that those balls would be a bit earlier than both the Crux and the Intellect.

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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2014, 05:24:51 PM »
How is your nano drilled?

How is your hyper drilled?

Let's start there because if you want a ball to break earlier than a Hyper Cell they haven't made it yet!!

Something else is going on. Maybe you're looking for a more aggressive transition or your HC is hooking early. Best to figure that out before getting ball recommendations.

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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2014, 06:04:04 PM »
You may want to look at a pin down DV8 Ruckus Feud. I think that would be earlier than a Hyper Cell.

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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2014, 11:41:13 AM »
The Mastermind Intellect would be able to handle heavier oil conditions. With the box surface of 500 and royal compound, it would give you easy length and a strong backend motion. If you need to get the ball to start up a little earlier, you could change it to 500 then 2000. I have used the Mastermind Intellect as my heavier oil ball, and I haven't found an oil condition that it doesn't have a consistent motion on the lane.
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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2014, 02:07:31 PM »
You can also look at the IQ NANO.  With the same drill as the Crux, I have found it stronger earlier and it has great continuation.  The Hybrid cover on the Crux makes it smoother all around and you can use it longer.
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Re: Crux vs. Bad Ass vs. Mastermind Intellect?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2014, 04:09:55 PM »
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