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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: milorafferty on January 16, 2021, 12:49:14 AM
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Received a text message today that Gold County lanes in Sutter Creek is now open.
Perhaps this is the beginning...
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According to the state, the only place that bowling could be open is in Sierra county
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7The text message came from the bowling alley itself. Included a link to their Facebook page but I don't have Facebook to check it
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7The text message came from the bowling alley itself. Included a link to their Facebook page but I don't have Facebook to check it
That's interesting. That's Amador County, which got out of the stay-at-home order on the 12th, but is still in purple, so they technically shouldn't be open (I'm just going off the covid19 site, not arguing politics).
However, last I looked at site, only two counties out of the 58 were in red (Alpine, Mariposa), and one in orange (Sierra), which both have nothing as far as an alley goes...
.. However, I see that Trinity County is in red, and Trinity Lanes is open in Weaverville (though they shouldn't be open until orange).. So this might be the beginning.
BL.
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Shasta lanes in redding has been open for quite some time. I bowl there all the time.
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In SoCal, there is no end in sight for bowling lockdowns. Hospitals are over extended and it's not going to change anytime soon. It will be several more months at best.
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7The text message came from the bowling alley itself. Included a link to their Facebook page but I don't have Facebook to check it
That's interesting. That's Amador County, which got out of the stay-at-home order on the 12th, but is still in purple, so they technically shouldn't be open (I'm just going off the covid19 site, not arguing politics).
However, last I looked at site, only two counties out of the 58 were in red (Alpine, Mariposa), and one in orange (Sierra), which both have nothing as far as an alley goes...
.. However, I see that Trinity County is in red, and Trinity Lanes is open in Weaverville (though they shouldn't be open until orange).. So this might be the beginning.
BL.
I think Gavin has lost all credibility and some people are no longer listening to him. Especially in the rural areas of the state.
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I think Gavin has lost all credibility and some people are no longer listening to him. Especially in the rural areas of the state.
Ya think? :o
I was out mountain bike riding in our local mountains yesterday, and ran into a few groups of 15+ maskless people doing their thing. Aside from that, the trails were littered with people openly defying stay at home orders. People are over listening to whatever Newsom or Garcetti (LA Mayor) have to say.
Any credibility that may have existed is completely gone.
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I think Gavin has lost all credibility and some people are no longer listening to him. Especially in the rural areas of the state.
Ya think? :o
I was out mountain bike riding in our local mountains yesterday, and ran into a few groups of 15+ maskless people doing their thing. Aside from that, the trails were littered with people openly defying stay at home orders. People are over listening to whatever Newsom or Garcetti (LA Mayor) have to say.
Any credibility that may have existed is completely gone.
Yea, they don't call me Captain Obvious for nothing... ;D
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I think Gavin has lost all credibility and some people are no longer listening to him. Especially in the rural areas of the state.
Ya think? :o
I was out mountain bike riding in our local mountains yesterday, and ran into a few groups of 15+ maskless people doing their thing. Aside from that, the trails were littered with people openly defying stay at home orders. People are over listening to whatever Newsom or Garcetti (LA Mayor) have to say.
Any credibility that may have existed is completely gone.
In his defense, most to all counties had their stay-at-home orders lifted on 1/12/21. Again, not arguing politics, but simply going off of the covid19 site.
BL.
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In his defense, most to all counties had their stay-at-home orders lifted on 1/12/21. Again, not arguing politics, but simply going off of the covid19 site.
BL.
I'm not aware that LA County has lifted anything. Officials continue to bark at residents to stay at home as much as possible. If anything, they're talking about more business closures and possibly requesting that masks be worn inside homes. Of course, few of their pronouncements are enforceable, and folks have pretty much tuned them out.
The point is that bowling in SoCal will most likely be dead for several more months. I have no insights into what might be happening on the rural fringes.
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In his defense, most to all counties had their stay-at-home orders lifted on 1/12/21. Again, not arguing politics, but simply going off of the covid19 site.
BL.
I'm not aware that LA County has lifted anything. Officials continue to bark at residents to stay at home as much as possible. If anything, they're talking about more business closures and possibly requesting that masks be worn inside homes. Of course, few of their pronouncements are enforceable, and folks have pretty much tuned them out.
The point is that bowling in SoCal will most likely be dead for several more months. I have no insights into what might be happening on the rural fringes.
No argument there. And LA and San Bernardino counties - actually, everything south of Sacramento - are still under the SAH order. But Sacramento county and points north (read: Marysville/Beale AFB, up to Oregon) and east (to Reno) are either not under SAH orders, or were able to exit out of it on 1/12 or 1/16.
So yes, it is going to vary, which sucks. I'd rather have everything open up if it could. But for right now, the best we have open in state is either a 4 hour drive north of Sacramento, an 8 hour drive from SoCal, or over to Vegas or Reno..
BL.
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Looks like businesses are beginning to defy the orders.
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article248508610.html
Can't really blame them. Our center here in PA did the same thing recently and defied another shut down order from the Governor over the holidays.
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Looks like businesses are beginning to defy the orders.
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article248508610.html (https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article248508610.html)
Can't really blame them. Our center here in PA did the same thing recently and defied another shut down order from the Governor over the holidays.
This kind of defiance is usually temporary and doesn't end well, at least in SoCal. Fines start coming quickly, and if that doesn't work, they'll pull liquor licenses. Overpriced drinks are the lifeblood of many centers, so few owners will take things that far.
Again, don't look for wide spread openings until infection rates go drastically down. That probably won't happen until vaccines start taking effect, which obviously is a while off.
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Looks like businesses are beginning to defy the orders.
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article248508610.html (https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article248508610.html)
Can't really blame them. Our center here in PA did the same thing recently and defied another shut down order from the Governor over the holidays.
This kind of defiance is usually temporary and doesn't end well, at least in SoCal. Fines start coming quickly, and if that doesn't work, they'll pull liquor licenses. Overpriced drinks are the lifeblood of many centers, so few owners will take things that far.
Again, don't look for wide spread openings until infection rates go drastically down. That probably won't happen until vaccines start taking effect, which obviously is a while off.
Enforcement here in PA varies by County. Some counties are very "hands-off" and turn a blind eye to businesses defying the Governors orders. Other counties enforce it strictly with fines and forced closures. Some counties will even revoke business licenses.
Our center was threatened by the health department. They were going to call police and the liquor control board. That never happened.
Businesses have been restricted for close to a year now, so they have no choice but to try to reopen to save themselves.
While the vaccine brings hope, the roll-out has been a mess. Most states don't have enough of it to get through the first phase of vaccines let alone get it out to everyone else. Now they are saying it provides protection for about a year, just like the regular flu shot. So it will become another annual vaccination that people will be encouraged to get. Other experts are saying masks and social distancing will be here "forever", so we just need to adapt and learn to live smartly and sensibly alongside the virus.
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I know of one bowling alley in California that never closed through any of the covid stuff.
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Do tell who that might be?
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A rule is only a rule if it has a consequence.
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Do tell who that might be?
Ha Ha Ha! Like that is going to happen. :o :D
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I know of one bowling alley in California that never closed through any of the covid stuff.
Canyon Lanes at Morongo never closed because it's on Indian Reservation land. I just bowled a tournament there last weekend.
Otherwise, there have been a lot of underground events going on throughout the state, but I'm not aware of a single house that thumbed their nose at health officials and officially stayed open.
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I know of one bowling alley in California that never closed through any of the covid stuff.
Canyon Lanes at Morongo never closed because it's on Indian Reservation land. I just bowled a tournament there last weekend.
Otherwise, there have been a lot of underground events going on throughout the state, but I'm not aware of a single house that thumbed their nose at health officials and officially stayed open.
Interesting. I know Gold Country Lanes in Oroville closed even though they are on a reservation. The alley I'm talking about is Nu Generation lanes in Yuba city. Not sure how they did it, other than kind of being an out of the way city where not many people pay attention to it. I know a lot of Northern CA alleys were open in secret and not answering phones or advertising it, but Nu Gen was open, answering phones, and told me they were just staying open until someone actually came in there and shut them down. I guess it didn't happen. I think they did have adjusted hours though. I'm not sure if they still had leagues going on or not.
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We just got an email from our youth bowling director, saying that Fireside may have a chance of opening back up this coming April, pending on how things go in the next couple of weeks. The state (I'm working with CDPH at the moment) is revamping their counties' tiers now, so this may all be changing shortly.
Regardless, my daughter's birthday is coming up, so we're taking her up the hill to Reno for the weekend. We'll definitely get in some games up there.
BL.
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We just got an email from our youth bowling director, saying that Fireside may have a chance of opening back up this coming April, pending on how things go in the next couple of weeks. The state (I'm working with CDPH at the moment) is revamping their counties' tiers now, so this may all be changing shortly.
Regardless, my daughter's birthday is coming up, so we're taking her up the hill to Reno for the weekend. We'll definitely get in some games up there.
BL.
I am waiting for Fireside to open as well, as I bowl in the Cook League. I have been calling the state and the county to get them to re-evaluate their stance on bowling centers. Right now they are being classified as family entertainment centers and that needs to change. I tried to explain to the officials that sport and competitive bowling is not a family of 4 renting equipment other people have used, video games, and laser tag. It is for people with their own equipment to exercise, hone their skill by practice, and compete in a controlled environment. They agree that my argument that shooting and archery ranges are open where people are assigned to an "alley" and use there own equipment is very similar to what bowling for sport is, but it seems they don't have any idea of who can take it to the next level
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We just got an email from our youth bowling director, saying that Fireside may have a chance of opening back up this coming April, pending on how things go in the next couple of weeks. The state (I'm working with CDPH at the moment) is revamping their counties' tiers now, so this may all be changing shortly.
Regardless, my daughter's birthday is coming up, so we're taking her up the hill to Reno for the weekend. We'll definitely get in some games up there.
BL.
I am waiting for Fireside to open as well, as I bowl in the Cook League. I have been calling the state and the county to get them to re-evaluate their stance on bowling centers. Right now they are being classified as family entertainment centers and that needs to change. I tried to explain to the officials that sport and competitive bowling is not a family of 4 renting equipment other people have used, video games, and laser tag. It is for people with their own equipment to exercise, hone their skill by practice, and compete in a controlled environment. They agree that my argument that shooting and archery ranges are open where people are assigned to an "alley" and use there own equipment is very similar to what bowling for sport is, but it seems they don't have any idea of who can take it to the next level
Good news for you. I can confirm that Fireside Lanes IS open. I just walked in the place just to check hours for tomorrow. Almost every lane is filled, and yes, they will be open Sunday morning, with their normal Sunday morning rates (you know what that means! ;D )
The kids and I will most definitely be up there tomorrow, especially since I have a lot of work to do on my gear (finding PAP, prepping to lay out 3 new balls), and making sure the kids and I get some long overdue practice in!
BL.
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Yes I heard they were open. Cook League folded and they are starting a shorter 17 week draft league on April 7th.
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Anyone know when Yosemite lanes is going to reopen and run tournaments?
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Yes I heard they were open. Cook League folded and they are starting a shorter 17 week draft league on April 7th.
Wow.. folded completely? or just for the season? That's a huge league.
BL.
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Fireside is open Friday,Saturday and Sunday. Leagues starting first week of April.
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Fireside is open Friday,Saturday and Sunday. Leagues starting first week of April.
Confirmed, depending on how the next two weeks go. If vaccination rates and infection rates stay the same or go down according to CDPH, we'll move into the Orange tier by then, which means leagues can start up again.
Also, I just came from bowling there. Cook's draft league is done for the year, not folded completely. They'll be starting up again in the fall, outside of the smaller league they'll be doing starting in April and throughout the summer.
I'm still trying to figure out how they are open, along with Strikes Rocklin, as both counties are still in the red tier, while Mardi Gras/Bowlero/whatever they are called now is still closed. To me, that sounds like someone is distinguishing between a bowling alley and a family entertainment center, and that would explain why Bowlero, Land Park, and Rocklin are closed.
All very confusing.
BL.
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Fireside is open Friday,Saturday and Sunday. Leagues starting first week of April.
Confirmed, depending on how the next two weeks go. If vaccination rates and infection rates stay the same or go down according to CDPH, we'll move into the Orange tier by then, which means leagues can start up again.
Also, I just came from bowling there. Cook's draft league is done for the year, not folded completely. They'll be starting up again in the fall, outside of the smaller league they'll be doing starting in April and throughout the summer.
I'm still trying to figure out how they are open, along with Strikes Rocklin, as both counties are still in the red tier, while Mardi Gras/Bowlero/whatever they are called now is still closed. To me, that sounds like someone is distinguishing between a bowling alley and a family entertainment center, and that would explain why Bowlero, Land Park, and Rocklin are closed.
All very confusing.
BL.
Local centers here in So Cal were informed they could operate as a "Fitness and Training business" in the Red tier with specified time slots (1.5 hours) and very limited capacity. 4 people max per lane and using every other lane
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Yes I heard they were open. Cook League folded and they are starting a shorter 17 week draft league on April 7th.
Wow.. folded completely? or just for the season? That's a huge league.
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Just for last year. We bowled two weeks in the winter and stopped. Too many people couldn't continue the league into the summer. We are bowling the 17 week league and then going into the 2021 -2022 cook league after that this winter..... hopefully.
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Local centers here in So Cal were informed they could operate as a "Fitness and Training business" in the Red tier with specified time slots (1.5 hours) and very limited capacity. 4 people max per lane and using every other lane
VERY interesting.. If that applied statewide that would mean every alley could open up, but would rule out 5-person team tournaments.
I know when I was at Fireside Saturday night and Sunday morning it was totally packed. I know they weren't using every other lane, but that also could have been that the max people could have been using a pair of lanes.
Regardless, I know a couple of PSOs that are open, so now that I found what I needed I can get back to punching up a trio of year-old NIB balls, and now am stuck with needing to get new gear for the kids! damned growing up and new shoes.. ;D
BL.
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Received from Chuck Holland today;
Bowlers,
Earl Anthony's Dublin Bowl is going to open for leagues the week of April 19th. They would like to start with a short season scratch league on Tuesday the 20th. Start time is not yet determined but depending on the interest we will figure it out and give you notice well before the start of the league. Plan on 8pm at this point.
This short league will give everyone a chance to come back and prepare for league next September. Meeting is April 20th @ 7pm on the concourse, we will bowl after. At this point plan on the league having brackets, $3, as before. All monies from brackets will be added to the league prize fund. The league will be 15 to 20 weeks long and trios as before.
Please let me know who is on your team and if you don't have a team let me know that you are interested and I will find a spot for you.
As soon as you have a team please let me know the players!
We will use the same rules as before, attached, but have to change the time frame.
As the new info comes in I will keep you updated.