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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: nord on November 25, 2016, 01:41:25 AM

Title: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: nord on November 25, 2016, 01:41:25 AM

I am a right handed Full Roller and have two older balls with no core.
An AMF Angle Plus and a 1970's Japanese rubber ball.
Both balls have a special high flare layout that uses a balance hole.
The balance hole is on the left lower side of the ball.
When I support the ball in my left hand the balance hole is naturally under my left support hand thumb.
I find it very comfortable to insert my support hand's thumb into the balance hole during the push away and release the thumb at the top of the push away.
Is this illegal?

Also is it illegal for a two handed bowler to have gripping holes for both his hands?
You would think some two handed players might want gripping holes for both hands.

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: luv2C10falll on November 25, 2016, 07:29:11 AM

Your allowed 10 holes on a ball, so drill away  !!

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: Impending Doom on November 25, 2016, 08:44:41 AM

You're actually allowed 11. 10 max if you're using them.for gripping, and a balance hole. But you must be using the first 10 to actively grip at some point.

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: itsallaboutme on November 25, 2016, 08:52:28 AM

See chapter 8 of the USBC Playing Rules

6. Holes.
a. Holes or indentations for gripping purposes shall not exceed  five and shall be limited to one for
each  finger and one for the thumb, all for the same hand. The player is not required to use all  finger holes in any speci c deliver y, but they must be able to demonstrate, with the same hand, that each gripping hole can be simultaneously used for gripping purposes. Any thumb hole that is not used for gripping purposes during the delivery would be classi ed as a balance hole.
b. One hole for balance purposes, not to exceed 11⁄4 inch in diameter is permitted. (Slugs and bowling tape will be allowed in balance holes, however interchangeable devices are
not allowed).
1) Any hole that cannot be reasonably shown to be used with a single hand is classi ed as a balance hole.
2) Balance holes may not intersect gripping holes.
c. One vent hole for each  nger and/or thumb hole, not to exceed 1⁄4 inch in diameter is permitted.
d. One mill hole for inspection purposes not to exceed 5 ⁄8 inch in diameter and 1⁄8 inch in depth
is permitted.

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: nord on November 25, 2016, 12:30:06 PM

So from what you all said, it seems like I could have a max of 5 gripping holes for the right hand and 5 gripping holes for the left hand if I wanted.

10 gripping holes total.

So I guess it is legal to have 3 gripping holes for the right hand and 1 gripping hole for the left hand.

So I am good?

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: luv2C10falll on November 25, 2016, 01:05:05 PM

You get 10 holes and if you drill it on a Saturday, your allowed 11.So your good !!

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: itsallaboutme on November 25, 2016, 01:51:30 PM

No you are not good.  The rules are all available on bowl.com.  Read them and quit taking advice from people that don't know the rules. 

12 holes permitted
5 gripping holes-all for the same hand
5 vent holes-one for each of the 5 gripping holes
1 balance hole
1 mill hole

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: luv2C10falll on November 25, 2016, 03:32:46 PM

The guy above is a kill joy
Where's your xmas spirit Aboutme

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: nord on November 27, 2016, 10:18:01 PM

itsallaboutme,

So you are saying it is against the rules to have gripping holes for both hands?
If you hold the ball with both hands you are not allowed to use gripping holes for both hands?
You can only have gripping holes for the hand that is last holding the ball at the moment of release? 
:o

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: itsallaboutme on November 28, 2016, 09:40:38 AM

Read the rule that I posted or go to bowl.com and look up the complete rule.

a. HOLES OR INDENTATIONS FOR GRIPPING PURPOSES SHALL NOT EXCEED  FIVE AND SHALL BE LIMITED TO ONE FOR
EACH  FINGER AND ONE FOR THE THUMB, ALL FOR THE SAME HAND. THE PLAYER IS NOT REQUIRED TO USE ALL  FINGER HOLES IN ANY SPECI C DELIVER Y, BUT THEY MUST BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE, WITH THE SAME HAND, THAT EACH GRIPPING HOLE CAN BE SIMULTANEOUSLY USED FOR GRIPPING PURPOSES.

The rule doesn't say anything about the holes being for the hand holding the ball last.  Read what it says, not what you think it says.

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: luv2C10falll on November 28, 2016, 12:31:56 PM

Don't forget the MOtion hole .On Saturdays you can drill two of those also .I read that somewhere  😆

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: tommygn on November 28, 2016, 02:30:45 PM

Well that's a couple of minutes of my life I can't get back.    :-[

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: luv2C10falll on November 28, 2016, 08:07:19 PM

You see Tommy,nord  is a basement troll.Like that idiot volcano girl.We all answer stupidity, with stupidity. Makes for a few good laughs  !!

Title: Re: Can you have gripping holes for both hands?
Post by: dmonroe814 on November 29, 2016, 09:08:11 AM

Quote from: itsallaboutme on November 25, 2016, 01:51:30 PM

No you are not good.  The rules are all available on bowl.com.  Read them and quit taking advice from people that don't know the rules. 

12 holes permitted
5 gripping holes-all for the same hand
5 vent holes-one for each of the 5 gripping holes
1 balance hole
1 mill hole

Correct!