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Gizmo823

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Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« on: December 15, 2014, 08:16:02 AM »
Disclaimer: This post will be negative and I WILL discuss SPOILERS.

The show yesterday was an absolute train wreck.  It felt like both the shortest and longest show I've ever watched.  The bowling went by ridiculously quickly, and there was way too much filler, fluff, and commercials.  Not to mention when it's all filmed ahead of time, if you're into bowling and keep up with things on Facebook, Twitter, and various internet sites, there's ZERO way to avoid finding out what happens and that completely kills any interest for me.  The majority of the fun is finding out what happens.  If you know ahead of time, it's just filling in some random details. 

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That first match wasn't really a match.  I've also never been less interested in someone making a run at 300, mostly because I already knew it didn't happen.  Feel bad for Pepe though, yeah it was a terrible shot, but it's too bad it never even had a chance.  I know I couldn't make a shot for 10k and bowling history, but a lot of people don't even get to have a chance at it and that might be the only one he ever gets. 

I had more personal commentary and opinions, but they would get me in trouble, so I'll just cut it off here.  Overall, the show was terribly uninteresting. 
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 08:27:56 AM »
Wasn't there football to watch yesterday?  The PBA wasn't really that interesting before, but it's certainly not interesting when you already know the results.
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 08:52:49 AM »
The whole WSOB is a joke.  Cramming in these one day tournaments just to give out trophies is sad.  The broadcast was awful, i forgot just how bad they were.  In an hour broadcast there was about 20 minutes of bowling.  I dont want to see a 10 year kid roll a bowl over the thumb hole against Dom Barrett, nor do i care about the opening of a bowling alley.
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 10:30:05 AM »
You could hear that baby rolling over the thumb for miles !!
The whole show was sad, except for Pepe
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 10:32:50 AM »
I haven't seen it but planned on watching it... Now you're making me reconsider it...
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 11:02:58 AM »
Whew! Rough crowd here! You guys are super-critical!! I just enjoyed it for what it was. I like the fact that Pepe bowled well, and for me, there wasn't enough actual bowling that we saw, but I understood that the PBA is competing with the NFL on every other station.

They gotta pay the bills too, so it wasn't completely horrible. IJS
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 11:12:39 AM »
Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
 
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
 
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2014, 11:21:39 AM »
Absolutely hate the new format...it felt like 50 mins of filler and 10 mins of bowling

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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2014, 11:24:37 AM »
So because you have the memory of a goldfish that makes it ok?
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 11:27:47 AM »
I agree with Jorge on this one. The show wasn't great, but it was still bowling on TV, and that's something. The problem with some people on this site is that they don't see the difference between idealism and realism. Ideally, the PBA would be back on network TV, have it's own prime time slot, do live shows every week, and attract big-time sponsors that could afford to make the purses huge each and every week. The reality is that that's probably never going to happen. The glory days of bowling have clearly gone away, and there isn't anything on the horizon to make you think that they're coming back any time soon. The guys who whine on here about all that the PBA doesn't do are the same ones who whine about all that USBC doesn't do. When costs are up and revenue is down, you can't reasonably expect to get what you've always gotten. Some things have to be trimmed; if they're not, before you know it, the whole dang ship goes down! Again, I'm not trying to say that I enjoyed yesterday's show as much as I used to enjoy the live weekly telecasts from back in the day; however, I understand that that's all that the PBA can afford these days. I don't have the magical solution that's going to get the PBA and bowling in general back in the limelight and sought after by major sponsors, so until I do, I don't feel I have room to whine and moan!

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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 11:31:10 AM »
I didn't know the results before I watch the show .. I enjoyed the show .. giving that kid a chance to bowl on TV was great .. what did he have to lose .. it will be something he'll always remember .. every show on TV has half the time set for commercials .. do I like it ..NO .. nothing we can do about it!
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 11:34:16 AM »
I didnt like 3 bowling against each other at once.  I suggest going back to stepladder finals.
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 12:03:25 PM »
The PBA doesn't listen and the people that run it don't even bowl or understand what they're doing.  We have ALL listed HUNDREDS of ways to fix it in the past.  People that are passionate about things complain about the negatives, and criticism IS a form of answer.  Obviously if you're doing something wrong and someone says stop doing that, logic says that by stopping, you will improve. 

Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
 
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
 
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 12:21:10 PM »
And because you have the personality of a Richard...it's ok to be one?!?

So because you have the memory of a goldfish that makes it ok?
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Re: Cheetah Championship, anybody watch? (SPOILER ALERT)
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 12:27:25 PM »
Gizmo,
    While I am sure it seemed that way, my response wasn't a personal attack you. It was general statement about this thread as a whole. And maybe I have missed those threads, but I have never seen one with real answers. People want all the things that we used to have when bowling was big and on ABC every Saturday. It isn't realistic to have those things anymore. The sponsors aren't there, the timeslot isn't there, and that all leads to the money not being there. The television budget for the PBA is limited. They could travel and do live shows....and you'd get maybe 3-4 of them a year, maybe. Or they can do they taped shows, and you can get 15 total shows a year, with a a few of them live. The only way to even hope to get things close to the past, it to get bowling exposed. Show off the pros, the people, and hope a sponsor sees something he thinks he can make money from. It's probably a longshot, but it's a shot. Otherwise the PBA might as well just fold it's doors. It's not perfect, but it's the best they can do with what they have available. If people are realistic about answers and not just complaining because it's not the same as it was, maybe people will listen.



The PBA doesn't listen and the people that run it don't even bowl or understand what they're doing.  We have ALL listed HUNDREDS of ways to fix it in the past.  People that are passionate about things complain about the negatives, and criticism IS a form of answer.  Obviously if you're doing something wrong and someone says stop doing that, logic says that by stopping, you will improve. 

Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
 
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
 
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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