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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Gizmo823 on December 15, 2014, 08:16:02 AM
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Disclaimer: This post will be negative and I WILL discuss SPOILERS.
The show yesterday was an absolute train wreck. It felt like both the shortest and longest show I've ever watched. The bowling went by ridiculously quickly, and there was way too much filler, fluff, and commercials. Not to mention when it's all filmed ahead of time, if you're into bowling and keep up with things on Facebook, Twitter, and various internet sites, there's ZERO way to avoid finding out what happens and that completely kills any interest for me. The majority of the fun is finding out what happens. If you know ahead of time, it's just filling in some random details.
*SPOILERS*
That first match wasn't really a match. I've also never been less interested in someone making a run at 300, mostly because I already knew it didn't happen. Feel bad for Pepe though, yeah it was a terrible shot, but it's too bad it never even had a chance. I know I couldn't make a shot for 10k and bowling history, but a lot of people don't even get to have a chance at it and that might be the only one he ever gets.
I had more personal commentary and opinions, but they would get me in trouble, so I'll just cut it off here. Overall, the show was terribly uninteresting.
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Wasn't there football to watch yesterday? The PBA wasn't really that interesting before, but it's certainly not interesting when you already know the results.
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The whole WSOB is a joke. Cramming in these one day tournaments just to give out trophies is sad. The broadcast was awful, i forgot just how bad they were. In an hour broadcast there was about 20 minutes of bowling. I dont want to see a 10 year kid roll a bowl over the thumb hole against Dom Barrett, nor do i care about the opening of a bowling alley.
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You could hear that baby rolling over the thumb for miles !!
The whole show was sad, except for Pepe
Well done young man,well done !!
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I haven't seen it but planned on watching it... Now you're making me reconsider it...
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Whew! Rough crowd here! You guys are super-critical!! I just enjoyed it for what it was. I like the fact that Pepe bowled well, and for me, there wasn't enough actual bowling that we saw, but I understood that the PBA is competing with the NFL on every other station.
They gotta pay the bills too, so it wasn't completely horrible. IJS
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Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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Absolutely hate the new format...it felt like 50 mins of filler and 10 mins of bowling
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So because you have the memory of a goldfish that makes it ok?
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I agree with Jorge on this one. The show wasn't great, but it was still bowling on TV, and that's something. The problem with some people on this site is that they don't see the difference between idealism and realism. Ideally, the PBA would be back on network TV, have it's own prime time slot, do live shows every week, and attract big-time sponsors that could afford to make the purses huge each and every week. The reality is that that's probably never going to happen. The glory days of bowling have clearly gone away, and there isn't anything on the horizon to make you think that they're coming back any time soon. The guys who whine on here about all that the PBA doesn't do are the same ones who whine about all that USBC doesn't do. When costs are up and revenue is down, you can't reasonably expect to get what you've always gotten. Some things have to be trimmed; if they're not, before you know it, the whole dang ship goes down! Again, I'm not trying to say that I enjoyed yesterday's show as much as I used to enjoy the live weekly telecasts from back in the day; however, I understand that that's all that the PBA can afford these days. I don't have the magical solution that's going to get the PBA and bowling in general back in the limelight and sought after by major sponsors, so until I do, I don't feel I have room to whine and moan!
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I didn't know the results before I watch the show .. I enjoyed the show .. giving that kid a chance to bowl on TV was great .. what did he have to lose .. it will be something he'll always remember .. every show on TV has half the time set for commercials .. do I like it ..NO .. nothing we can do about it!
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I didnt like 3 bowling against each other at once. I suggest going back to stepladder finals.
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The PBA doesn't listen and the people that run it don't even bowl or understand what they're doing. We have ALL listed HUNDREDS of ways to fix it in the past. People that are passionate about things complain about the negatives, and criticism IS a form of answer. Obviously if you're doing something wrong and someone says stop doing that, logic says that by stopping, you will improve.
Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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And because you have the personality of a Richard...it's ok to be one?!?
So because you have the memory of a goldfish that makes it ok?
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Gizmo,
While I am sure it seemed that way, my response wasn't a personal attack you. It was general statement about this thread as a whole. And maybe I have missed those threads, but I have never seen one with real answers. People want all the things that we used to have when bowling was big and on ABC every Saturday. It isn't realistic to have those things anymore. The sponsors aren't there, the timeslot isn't there, and that all leads to the money not being there. The television budget for the PBA is limited. They could travel and do live shows....and you'd get maybe 3-4 of them a year, maybe. Or they can do they taped shows, and you can get 15 total shows a year, with a a few of them live. The only way to even hope to get things close to the past, it to get bowling exposed. Show off the pros, the people, and hope a sponsor sees something he thinks he can make money from. It's probably a longshot, but it's a shot. Otherwise the PBA might as well just fold it's doors. It's not perfect, but it's the best they can do with what they have available. If people are realistic about answers and not just complaining because it's not the same as it was, maybe people will listen.
The PBA doesn't listen and the people that run it don't even bowl or understand what they're doing. We have ALL listed HUNDREDS of ways to fix it in the past. People that are passionate about things complain about the negatives, and criticism IS a form of answer. Obviously if you're doing something wrong and someone says stop doing that, logic says that by stopping, you will improve.
Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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No, I didn't take it as a personal attack, I just responded to the comments. Yes, people want all those things like back when bowling was big, but some of the reasons it isn't big any more is because they stopped doing those things. Any time slot is better than noon against NFL games. Even 3 or 330 would be better because even if your team isn't playing at noon, most people are itching for some football after waiting a week and will watch whatever is on, beside the fact that most of the games are played at noon.
Taped shows are one thing, but delaying them 2 or 3 MONTHS? That's insane. I just can't get up for watching something that happened months ago whether I know what happens or not.
Gizmo,
While I am sure it seemed that way, my response was a personal attack you. It was general statement about this thread as a whole. And maybe I have missed those threads, but I have never seen one with real answers. People want all the things that we used to have when bowling was big and on ABC every Saturday. It isn't realistic to have those things anymore. The sponsors aren't there, the timeslot isn't there, and that all leads to the money not being there. The television budget for the PBA is limited. They could travel and do live shows....and you'd get maybe 3-4 of them a year, maybe. Or they can do they taped shows, and you can get 15 total shows a year, with a a few of them live. The only way to even hope to get things close to the past, it to get bowling exposed. Show off the pros, the people, and hope a sponsor sees something he thinks he can make money from. It's probably a longshot, but it's a shot. Otherwise the PBA might as well just fold it's doors. It's not perfect, but it's the best they can do with what they have available. If people are realistic about answers and not just complaining because it's not the same as it was, maybe people will listen.
The PBA doesn't listen and the people that run it don't even bowl or understand what they're doing. We have ALL listed HUNDREDS of ways to fix it in the past. People that are passionate about things complain about the negatives, and criticism IS a form of answer. Obviously if you're doing something wrong and someone says stop doing that, logic says that by stopping, you will improve.
Lots of criticism, but no answers, as usual on this site.
I read the spoilers when these tournaments were actually held, but I haven't looked at them since, I did not remember that Pepe did not roll 300 (but figured he didn't or I would have remembered that). I also didn't remember he won. So it was like watching it new. The Am vs. Pro thing wasn't very good, especially when they asked the boy who he wanted to bowl, and then don't give him that person. I am sure Dom Barrett was picked ahead of time, so why ask that question. The kid was 10, so what if he rolled it over the thumbhole. He probably throws more ball then you did at 10, I know it's true in my case. As far as the bowling goes, they cut away less then did in the past, and they still have a few sponsors to satisfy, so you will get longer commercial breaks, just the way it is. With the shows only an hour, I believe they are hoping to get people to watch before turning to football, since they won't even miss the whole first half now. Plus it saves on Production costs, I am sure.
Again, instead of just whining and bitching, how about offering advice too. Doesn't mean the PBA will ever use it, but it shows you actually care more about it then just complaining....something new for bowlers, I know, but it's about time.
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I think it's beyond saving. It doesn't really matter why or who is at fault. It's hard enough to get people to participate and you want to assess why people won't watch it on TV? It just isn't that interesting. It's not compelling. It's not inspiring.
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Very well said Joe
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I have Direct TV with a DVR. Commercials last about 15 seconds. I very seldom watch anything live any more. -- JohnP
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Gizmo,
Well you should have, because I said it was.....lol. Sorry, I fixed my original but can't do anything about the version you quoted. It should have said "wasn't", but sometimes my brain gets going faster then my fingers can type, lol.
Again, nothing personal, but your response below is exactly what I was talking about. Don't you think the PBA would love to be on some night during Prime Time? Or on a Saturday since they start up after NCAA Football is over?? I am betting they would, but that isn't their call. ESPN likes to have bowling on Sunday's @ 1:00PM. It gets better rating than anything else they can put there. While those ratings are still poor, probably around a 1.0 if history is any indication, they far outclass other programs that have run in that timeslot. Bowling isn't big enough to be able to demand to be changed, they are just happy that they don't have to actually pay for the TV time anymore. So unless they want to give up some exposure, and move to another Network, they will be on against the NFL.
The delay in actual airing the shows, I can't speak to. I don't know if that is ESPN's doing, or the PBA's doing. I'm thinking it is some of both maybe, but I have no clue. It is only a little over a month difference. The WSOB was Oct 24 - Nov 2, 2014. And the first airdate was yesterday. So, it isn't the 2-3 months you claim. But yes, anything that is pre-taped, the winners have a way of getting out. That can't be helped. But it is the way it is going to have to be until some Billionaire comes along that loves bowling and doesn't mind becoming a Millionaire in the process.
No, I didn't take it as a personal attack, I just responded to the comments. Yes, people want all those things like back when bowling was big, but some of the reasons it isn't big any more is because they stopped doing those things. Any time slot is better than noon against NFL games. Even 3 or 330 would be better because even if your team isn't playing at noon, most people are itching for some football after waiting a week and will watch whatever is on, beside the fact that most of the games are played at noon.
Taped shows are one thing, but delaying them 2 or 3 MONTHS? That's insane. I just can't get up for watching something that happened months ago whether I know what happens or not.
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I guess I'm glad I'm a dinosaur because I don't know who won any of the events (barely use Facebook and refuse to get a Twitter account). For me these events are similar enough to the old ones that I'm still excited to watch. I do watch the live NFL and the PBA later, but I DVR 90% of my shows and watch (minus commercials) at my leisure.
The event itself felt less gimmicky without the Nascar type banners splashed everywhere. Of course if the money from advertising makes the PBA (or potentially longer/better telecasts) possible I'm all for it. It was a bummer to have only two matches, but I do like the multi person ones. I like the ones from a few years ago with 8 finalists making the show and only the title match being one on one.
Still both matches were exciting for me. Chance at 300 in one, and a disastrous finish for one of the competitors in the other. It just goes to show you that even on an "easy" pattern like Cheetah, a slight mistake can cost you dearly.
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And because you have the personality of a Richard...it's ok to be one?!?
So because you have the memory of a goldfish that makes it ok?
Not constructive, but well played lol
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Well yes I understand that, but that's basically saying the PBA can't do ANY better than the noon slot against all the NFL games? As of right now they probably can't. Nobody wants to put the PBA on primetime, but why is that? Could be that the product sucks, and has for a while. Bowling has gotten a lot more complicated in a time when things need to get simpler. Plus there are just a few things about it that unfortunately handicap it. It's a lot harder to see the quality of the shot in bowling as opposed to something like golf. Bowling almost amounts to putt putt to most people. Strikes look so easy so when somebody doesn't strike people think they suck. But it's not marketed well, and definitely not executed well.
Gizmo,
Well you should have, because I said it was.....lol. Sorry, I fixed my original but can't do anything about the version you quoted. It should have said "wasn't", but sometimes my brain gets going faster then my fingers can type, lol.
Again, nothing personal, but your response below is exactly what I was talking about. Don't you think the PBA would love to be on some night during Prime Time? Or on a Saturday since they start up after NCAA Football is over?? I am betting they would, but that isn't their call. ESPN likes to have bowling on Sunday's @ 1:00PM. It gets better rating than anything else they can put there. While those ratings are still poor, probably around a 1.0 if history is any indication, they far outclass other programs that have run in that timeslot. Bowling isn't big enough to be able to demand to be changed, they are just happy that they don't have to actually pay for the TV time anymore. So unless they want to give up some exposure, and move to another Network, they will be on against the NFL.
The delay in actual airing the shows, I can't speak to. I don't know if that is ESPN's doing, or the PBA's doing. I'm thinking it is some of both maybe, but I have no clue. It is only a little over a month difference. The WSOB was Oct 24 - Nov 2, 2014. And the first airdate was yesterday. So, it isn't the 2-3 months you claim. But yes, anything that is pre-taped, the winners have a way of getting out. That can't be helped. But it is the way it is going to have to be until some Billionaire comes along that loves bowling and doesn't mind becoming a Millionaire in the process.
No, I didn't take it as a personal attack, I just responded to the comments. Yes, people want all those things like back when bowling was big, but some of the reasons it isn't big any more is because they stopped doing those things. Any time slot is better than noon against NFL games. Even 3 or 330 would be better because even if your team isn't playing at noon, most people are itching for some football after waiting a week and will watch whatever is on, beside the fact that most of the games are played at noon.
Taped shows are one thing, but delaying them 2 or 3 MONTHS? That's insane. I just can't get up for watching something that happened months ago whether I know what happens or not.
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I thought the kid was 14?
Too much fluff not enough content. I feel that way about the Olympics, Skiing, America's got talent, and half the shows that try to give you all the back ground about the participants and the event.
I want to watch Pro's bowl.
They can have the 3 person semi-final but show all the shots. Don't break away and recap. It is a taped event you could edit out some of the dead time between shots.
They have made these events sprints and not marathons I think that degrades from the tournament.
But this is the reality of what bowling has become and what ESPN, sponsors, the PBA, and what the viewing public will support.
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well, here is my opinion on the show and the PBA as well. I did not know the results of the show before I watched. I try not to get into all the social media associated with bowling. The show itself was great. A PBA rookie on his first telecast rolling the front 11 and ending up with a 295!!! Come on guys, isnt that what the game is all about, isnt that everyones goal when they take to the lanes?.......Maybe I'm a little too old school but that first match was great. Pepe showed alot of maple moxy on that telecast! Then after the excitement of the near 300, overcame the deficit he had against Allen to go on and win his first tournament, that is what bowling is all about!! The folks on here saying they don't watch are part of the problem regardless if it is a taped show or not. Some people these days are just over sensitive about everything. I don't look too much into adds and the commercials too much....every major sport has their fair share of "filler material"..........I think some of you are over criticizing this situation. I wont even get into the ones who are criticizing the kid who got a chance to roll against Dom...... Commercials and the such are a way of revenue, much like they are on football and baseball. You wont get away from commercials....ever.... that's where money comes from........
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I was just glad it wasn't on the two lane set.......I watched really to get an idea of what the Vegas Nationals venue is like (at least I believe this is where it will be).
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Yeah that's one of the things I think has hurt in the past, them creating the tv stage, have always hated that. And yes, that's where nationals will be next time it's in Vegas.
I was just glad it wasn't on the two lane set.......I watched really to get an idea of what the Vegas Nationals venue is like (at least I believe this is where it will be).
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And yes, that's where nationals will be next time it's in Vegas.
That will be a blast!
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Gizmo,
The PBA can't do any better...that is the reality of it. In fact what they have now IS better then their last deal with ESPN. The original deal had the PBA paying ESPN for airtime....at least now they get a little something from ESPN for the shows. That change was probably due to the fact ESPN wants to keep on against football. My biggest peeve with ESPN has always been the NFL Countdown guys. Berman and the boys always seem to make fun of the fact that bowling is coming up next. These are ESPN employees and you would think ESPN would at least make them announce it straight, instead of letting them get away with that.
And it really isn't about the PBA being more complicated. I think the blue oil idea is helping educate people on the fact that 1) there is oil there as they can now actually see it and 2) that these shots are not the same easy shots they see every week in league. I wish there was a less campy way to do it, but again this is reality. It's better than nothing. The real culprit is the fact that people want what they can't have with bowling on TV. The average bowler wants to see everyone shooting 260+ or else they think they are as good as the guys on TV cause they can shoot those scores in their league. The advanced bowlers wants bigger prize funds, step ladder finals every week, and more talk about technical aspects of the game. The rest want to see something else. It is all but impossible to satisfy everyone, especially with the reality of today. We can't get bigger prize funds unless the PBA can find a bigtime sponsor. And we can't get a sponsor because bowling isn't a growing sport, it's declining big time. And we can't get people interested in the sport through the PBA anymore...it's a catch-22 all around. I agree the marketing and execution can be improved, but there is no incentive to do it because they can't guarantee it will do any good at all.
Well yes I understand that, but that's basically saying the PBA can't do ANY better than the noon slot against all the NFL games? As of right now they probably can't. Nobody wants to put the PBA on primetime, but why is that? Could be that the product sucks, and has for a while. Bowling has gotten a lot more complicated in a time when things need to get simpler. Plus there are just a few things about it that unfortunately handicap it. It's a lot harder to see the quality of the shot in bowling as opposed to something like golf. Bowling almost amounts to putt putt to most people. Strikes look so easy so when somebody doesn't strike people think they suck. But it's not marketed well, and definitely not executed well.
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Makes sense. However, the thing with me is that when you get to the point where something is presented so badly that even the die hards are indifferent, you really have a problem.
Gizmo,
The PBA can't do any better...that is the reality of it. In fact what they have now IS better then their last deal with ESPN. The original deal had the PBA paying ESPN for airtime....at least now they get a little something from ESPN for the shows. That change was probably due to the fact ESPN wants to keep on against football. My biggest peeve with ESPN has always been the NFL Countdown guys. Berman and the boys always seem to make fun of the fact that bowling is coming up next. These are ESPN employees and you would think ESPN would at least make them announce it straight, instead of letting them get away with that.
And it really isn't about the PBA being more complicated. I think the blue oil idea is helping educate people on the fact that 1) there is oil there as they can now actually see it and 2) that these shots are not the same easy shots they see every week in league. I wish there was a less campy way to do it, but again this is reality. It's better than nothing. The real culprit is the fact that people want what they can't have with bowling on TV. The average bowler wants to see everyone shooting 260+ or else they think they are as good as the guys on TV cause they can shoot those scores in their league. The advanced bowlers wants bigger prize funds, step ladder finals every week, and more talk about technical aspects of the game. The rest want to see something else. It is all but impossible to satisfy everyone, especially with the reality of today. We can't get bigger prize funds unless the PBA can find a bigtime sponsor. And we can't get a sponsor because bowling isn't a growing sport, it's declining big time. And we can't get people interested in the sport through the PBA anymore...it's a catch-22 all around. I agree the marketing and execution can be improved, but there is no incentive to do it because they can't guarantee it will do any good at all.
Well yes I understand that, but that's basically saying the PBA can't do ANY better than the noon slot against all the NFL games? As of right now they probably can't. Nobody wants to put the PBA on primetime, but why is that? Could be that the product sucks, and has for a while. Bowling has gotten a lot more complicated in a time when things need to get simpler. Plus there are just a few things about it that unfortunately handicap it. It's a lot harder to see the quality of the shot in bowling as opposed to something like golf. Bowling almost amounts to putt putt to most people. Strikes look so easy so when somebody doesn't strike people think they suck. But it's not marketed well, and definitely not executed well.
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Gizmo,
I don't think anyone denies there is a problem. The PBA is broken, but how to fix it is the issue. I just get tired of hearing/reading people bashing the PBA with unrealistic expectations. It will never be like it was when it was on ABC unfortunately. There just isn't enough sponsors dollars around for it at the moment. I don't think there is an easy fix....but I think the start of a fix has already been proposed. Riggs (Jeff Richgels) has proposed it in his blog in the past. The start is to bring the PBA, the USBC, and the BPAA together and form one new organization combining all 3. This way the every level, every avenue of the bowling world is represented in an organization governing the sport and helping the sport grow. You don't have a USBC looking rules that conflict with what the BPAA wants to do, and you have a solid foundation to build the PBA on with support from the bowling community. I highly recommend searching his site for his blog post on this (it is probably over a year old now, maybe even 2 years), it is a very interesting read and a solution I whole heartedly endorse.
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One positive that I have is that they have posted it on YouTube, thus eliminating people from posting bogus versions or people trying to hunt a good copy down. I wonder if they are getting profits from the YouTube views though. They currently only have about 4800 views so far.
Also here's the link in case someone wants to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMRqGetvnt0
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Should just go on Xtra Frame, but all summer it took them weeks to upload the Summer Swing telecasts. Another PBA service that is . . unimpressive.
One positive that I have is that they have posted it on YouTube, thus eliminating people from posting bogus versions or people trying to hunt a good copy down. I wonder if they are getting profits from the YouTube views though. They currently only have about 4800 views so far.
Also here's the link in case someone wants to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMRqGetvnt0
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I'm with the few here who enjoyed the telecast. I actually just watched my recording of the show last night, and simply DVR'ed through the commercials and fluff.
For me, it's about watching shots and technique, so I don't really care about the format. Pepe's performance was masterful, so I'm puzzled about about complaints.
For those who want change, we're not going to see it until serious sponsorship money flows into the PBA. That problem is not going to be solved on an Internet forum.
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I hear people talking about how the kid thumped over his thumbhole. He was a right handed 2-hander, so I'm going to assume that he did not have a thumbhole.
That being said he DID have a hole drilled for the middle finger of his LEFT hand, which is basically IN his track.
Don't believe me? Check out the screen capture I took from 24:51 of the video.
(https://www.ballreviews.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNNpausq.jpg&hash=374ac07b6c765084374ecf56ac7031ed4cc0bdb0)
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The big issue here is the difference between watching the live show or watching a recording later. The problems weren't so much the actual bowling, it's the hour worth of show and the 25 minutes worth of actual bowling. It's also the fact that even the die hard bowling fans don't want to watch it live. Why is that? With social media it's also nearly impossible to avoid hearing or finding out about the results. Now that you know what happens, go back and watch it again, commercials and all and let me know how enjoyable it was. Somebody else also made the point that all the "new" equipment they are using on the telecasts is stuff that has already been released with more stuff announced by the time they actually air. When they filmed that stuff, the IQ Tour Nano had barely been announced. By the air date? Already been released.
I'm with the few here who enjoyed the telecast. I actually just watched my recording of the show last night, and simply DVR'ed through the commercials and fluff.
For me, it's about watching shots and technique, so I don't really care about the format. Pepe's performance was masterful, so I'm puzzled about about complaints.
For those who want change, we're not going to see it until serious sponsorship money flows into the PBA. That problem is not going to be solved on an Internet forum.
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The big issue here is the difference between watching the live show or watching a recording later. The problems weren't so much the actual bowling, it's the hour worth of show and the 25 minutes worth of actual bowling. It's also the fact that even the die hard bowling fans don't want to watch it live. Why is that? With social media it's also nearly impossible to avoid hearing or finding out about the results. Now that you know what happens, go back and watch it again, commercials and all and let me know how enjoyable it was. Somebody else also made the point that all the "new" equipment they are using on the telecasts is stuff that has already been released with more stuff announced by the time they actually air. When they filmed that stuff, the IQ Tour Nano had barely been announced. By the air date? Already been released.
I'm with the few here who enjoyed the telecast. I actually just watched my recording of the show last night, and simply DVR'ed through the commercials and fluff.
For me, it's about watching shots and technique, so I don't really care about the format. Pepe's performance was masterful, so I'm puzzled about about complaints.
For those who want change, we're not going to see it until serious sponsorship money flows into the PBA. That problem is not going to be solved on an Internet forum.
Giz, I understand your point. I'm not a fan of the taped shows we see weeks after the fact, but it's obviously the best the PBA can do right now. Maybe I'm not demanding enough, but I'm just happy we have anything at all.
With my XtraFrame subscription, I get plenty of live coverage. I watched the WSOB live for many hours, and there is much more to come in 2015.
If we want things to get better, we have to do our part individually. Join the PBA. Bowl a Regional or 2 each year. The competitive part of the sport won't grow unless we participate. With growth will come money, and things will sort themselves out. Being angry in the mean time probably won't solve much.