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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: fluff33 on March 04, 2015, 12:51:50 PM
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Bowling in position round this week. Pro shop guy was bowling on lanes next to us. His team is one point behind us. Anchor bowler on team we are bowling is struggling. Asks pro shop guy to help him. He straightens him out, bowls very well from then on. We lose 6 of 8 points, mostly due to anchor getting straightened out by pro shop guy, whose team now goes around us. Ethical by pro shop guy?
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I see del B doing that with tour pros on TV....
but I guess league is different.....
anyway, I don't see anything wrong with that IMO. If someone did that to my team, I'd tell my teammates to step it up and mark every frame....basically, I see it as a challenge.....
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I don't see nothing wrong with it either. They bowled better than you at the end of the day and that is all it matters, you can receive all the advice you want, but you also need to execute well after receiving the advice. Plain and simple.
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Getting coaching from any source available has pretty much been an accepted common practice for as long as I have bowled. There of course can be gray areas. For example a lane man giving information to a bowler about a change in the pattern that is not readily available to other competitors comes to mind.
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Sounds fine to me. Pro Shop Guy is in the business of drilling balls and providing advice/tips when asked. If he would have told that guy he couldn't help him, he might have just lost a customer.
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Sounds fine to me. Pro Shop Guy is in the business of drilling balls and providing advice/tips when asked. If he would have told that guy he couldn't help him, he might have just lost a customer.
Playing devil's advocate, it could be argued that the guy wasn't in his position as "Pro Shop Guy" when giving the advice. At that point, he was just a regular bowler. So his title/job occupation would be irrelevant.
With that said, this is no different than a teammate, who knows your game, giving you advice on making the adjustment needed to run out the game. There is a guy in my league, who also owns/runs a pro shop, and gives advice to his sister (on his team) all the time; he also happens to give advice to those who ask for it, including my teammates when we were bowling his team a couple of weeks ago. It is no different, as everyone in the house could give someone advice; but as mentioned earlier, the bowler has to execute.
BL.
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Bowling in position round this week. Pro shop guy was bowling on lanes next to us. His team is one point behind us. Anchor bowler on team we are bowling is struggling. Asks pro shop guy to help him. He straightens him out, bowls very well from then on. We lose 6 of 8 points, mostly due to anchor getting straightened out by pro shop guy, whose team now goes around us. Ethical by pro shop guy?
I don't think this crosses any serious ethical boundaries but if I was in your position it probably would annoy me.
Question for you, if anyone on your team was struggling and they asked that same pro shop guy for help during the same set would he have offered advice? If the answer is no then he is clearly doing it only for himself. If he would have then it is really about helping others and not specifically himself.
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Nothing wrong your teammate ask for advice from the PEO shop guy and the pso gave him some advice. Its only advice you don't have to listen to it. Its not like the pro shop guy forced him to play a certain way , your teammate made the choice to listen.
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I don't volunteer coaching, whether in competition or not, but if asked I will, in either situation. -- JohnP
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It's the same thing as a teammate noticing something about your game and letting you know. Or a friend bowling down the house helping.
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I am one who tries to help my opponent. There is no glory, and little satisfaction in beating someone who's struggling big time, but much more rewarding when you have to bowl great to win.
I have a teammate who suddenly died yesterday in an accident. I doubt there's a person around who can say that they didn't respect the man. He was a class act all the way. We need more people like him who enjoyed bowling, but never acted as though the outcome was "life or death".
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Lane, sorry to hear about your teammate.
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Lane, sorry to hear about your teammate.
Thank you. We'll miss him as a bowler, and as a very cool guy...
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in my short bowling experience, i find it better that i have my coach during league, sometimes im not aware that im throwing it too fast or my slide is overpowered, or this or that, so having my coach REALLY makes things easier
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More ethical than grasping at straws for an excuse for losing. C'mon.