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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: komike on October 24, 2013, 12:26:24 PM
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I see a lot of guys wearing compression sleeves and even see them being sold at tournaments now. Do these things actually help or are they more of a fashion statement to be cool?
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I'd say both. There is a benefit to keeping the muscles warm, but I guarantee some are being sold because they are "cool".
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Fashion statement.
One that I don't care for....
People can wear whatever they want to wear but I can most assuredly say it's not for me.
MAYBE if you're a national touring pro and are on payroll for a company, and in that case MAYBE.
I don't see it as "cool".....
Since there are so few, it is my subjective OPINION that if you wear one you're a loser (figuratively speaking) and pretty much everyone thinks that except those wearing one....
Cue: "but your shoes say Dexter....." semantics time.......
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It's funny...about 3 or 4 years ago, I started wearing these sleeves. I was approached by other bowlers if it helped me bowl better or whatever. I just tell them no it doesn't. Plus, I wore one on my opposite arm most of the time and sometimes on both arms.
The main purpose I got the sleeve is to wipe sweat off my forehead or wipe my fingers. And to keep warm during winter.
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I just started to wear one. Not by a ball manufacturer. I have major elbow issues and it helps me to be able to last a full league set. Haven't bowled more than that in about 6 years. Mines not a fashion statement.
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99% of them are a fashion statement because Belmo wore one on TV.
I want him to wear an eyepatch one week just to see how many copy him.
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I started wearing one once I began getting a lot of elbow pain. I did not necessarily want to wear any type of brace, so I started to use a compression sleeve. Once I started wearing it, I can tell that it worked for the better because my elbow pain during and after a set diminished greatly. Saved me from also having to continuously pop Advils or Tylenols for elbow discomfort.
I went to a store and bought the cheapest ones I could find (about $8 for a pair). Think it was a Sports Authority. I was not about to pay someone $20 to $30 just so they could put some design on it.
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Since there are so few, it is my subjective OPINION that if you wear one you're a loser (figuratively speaking) and pretty much everyone thinks that except those wearing one....
My sentiments exactly!!! You hit it right on the head!!! Couldn't have said it better!!!
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99% of them are a fashion statement because Belmo wore one on TV.
I want him to wear an eyepatch one week just to see how many copy him.
Ha! I can picture it now. Bowling alleys all over America filled with league bowling pirates. Love it!
Matt
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can anyone say Q-link?
yeah, I knew ya could...which means you can put the rest of the story together ;)
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I forgot to add......
I stop wearing my sleeves before it started to popping up on TV when I got tired of washing it too many damn times and forgetting it at home.
I don't care if someone wears a sleeve or a patch on their eye. There's always a trend out there that fades away. Bowlers used to wear what many golfers (still) wear. Qlink, then those balance bracelets or necklaces.
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I rock the arm sleeves. Don't care what others think either. I was given mine by a company and they are actually nice, elbow pain has gone away.
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Fashion statement. Placebo--think about it. What possible medical benefit can it
offer?
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Fashion statement....Plus added advertisement for the company that's on them. Logo placement is important.
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My nephew wears one and he says it helps relieve his elbow pain, so maybe it does have some effect. I personally can't understand how, but he says it works.
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Fashion statement. Placebo--think about it. What possible medical benefit can it
offer?
Some offer medical grade compression, which can help with circulation, muscle recovery, and minimizes muscle fatigue.
No, I don't wear them when I bowl. But I do new hire training and development for a specialty running company and the benefits of compression are real. I can't think of anyone who wears them for fashion, other than impressionable teens who watch their favorite basketball players wear them on television.
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Just because they are trendy doesn't mean they don't have any value.
1. Placebo affect isn't always bad
2. Confidence is better than no confidence
3. Medical facts?!
To say anyone who wears one is a loser is ignorant. I might get one just to spite the haterz.
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Why should it bother you what bowlers wear?
I stated this many times about this sport. It appears that bowling is the only sport that the casual or league bowler can't wear any kind of apparel representing some manufacturer, because if they do they are labeled a "loser" or some kind of "pro wanna be".
It's funny you can wear a Football or Hockey jersey (and don't play the sport), but as soon as you buy a Storm Bowling Shirt, "loser!"
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B.I.G.
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Just because they are trendy doesn't mean they don't have any value.
1. Placebo affect isn't always bad
2. Confidence is better than no confidence
3. Medical facts?!
To say anyone who wears one is a loser is ignorant. I might get one just to spite the haterz.
Well said. To add my $.02, if you believe that something helps you, then it does.
LOL on the last line of the above quote.
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There is nothing bad about the placebo effect. If you believe that anything helps you,
that alone is a positive benefit.
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I won't speak for anyone else here, but my guess is that it's a fashion statement for most people who wear them. Whatever. It's no different than the guys who wear name shirts to league. I don't do it, but that doesn't mean someone is wrong if they do. As coincidence would have it, we bowled next to a guy last night who was wearing a compression sleeve. It was the first time I'd noticed him/it. I had a hard time not laughing to myself after having read this thread!
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Why should it bother you what bowlers wear?
I stated this many times about this sport. It appears that bowling is the only sport that the casual or league bowler can't wear any kind of apparel representing some manufacturer, because if they do they are labeled a "loser" or some kind of "pro wanna be".
It's funny you can wear a Football or Hockey jersey (and don't play the sport), but as soon as you buy a Storm Bowling Shirt, "loser!"
Yup, this attitude just puzzles me... That's why many of my friends think bowlers are "dorks, beer drinkers, fat low lifers, and drama queens" In fact, this site has changed a lot from ten years ago.
Years ago, I raced dirt bikes to shifters, and wore name brand shirts and jerseys. I also surfed, wore quicksilver and rusty to represent the brands I liked. I wore expensive golf shirts when I golfed, because they look good and felt good. No beef, no put-downs, no degrading, etc...from others...
BUT in bowling, someone wears bowling brand shirts form time to time, he/she is labeled a wanna be??? WTF?! HAHAHA...It's a bowling (brand) shirt and they're bowling. So, only staffers can wear brand shirts? I guess these same people might be wearing surf/skate brand clothing (quicksilver, Rusty, BB, etc..) but are kooks cause they can't surf or skate.
These same people might be wearing MMA/MA shirts but never even step foot on the mat or fought in tourneys. I wear these shirts because I did these sports/activities now or before.....Arm sleeves are no different than head bands, ear phones, or your favorite bowling shirt - name brand or not. These people who down grade others for what they wear at leagues really don't have much in life. Probably wished they made 75-100K a year, had good credit, had a loving wife, honest kids, or drove a 911. Their life sucks so they down grade others to make themselves feel better.????
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I equate it to those that wear manufacturer labeled bowling jerseys on league night. All I know is if you wear a jersey and/or a compression sleeve, you better be able to shoe up with the best of them.
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I would have to check with Tom Milton before I could render an opinion.
He was wearing one back in the 1980's.
Guess it was all about fashion back then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwY5yA6FSw
Check it out.
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I would have to check with Tom Milton before I could render an opinion.
He was wearing one back in the 1980's.
Guess it was all about fashion back then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwY5yA6FSw
Check it out.
Dude was a trend setter. He was just ahead of his time. ;D
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Very interesting answers. If the best bowler in your house used them and said it works wonders for him...would you try it? Some people I have talked to say that they are able to bowl longer without getting sore using a compression sleeve. I plan on trying one but not one of those cheesy ones with logos on them. If people laugh at me I'll just show them up on the lanes!
Was Tom Milton using a compression sleeve or an elbow sleeve?
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Haven't visited the misc.-bowling related in a while... I see nothing's changed. The usual ignorant postings by a couple certain 'know-it-alls'.
Let me preface that I'm not a doctor nor do I play 1 on here... but I've had knee injuries & worn a compression brace because my ortho prescribed it. Compression sleeves, socks & whatever have a purpose. They provide warmth/comfort to the muscles/joints. Some pitchers where jackets over their arms between innings. Not because it looks cool, it's to keep their arm warm. These compression sleeves do the same thing, but better & you don't have to wear a full jacket. It has it's place for bowlers as well. Compression socks are worn by people with hip &/or knee replacements to help keep the blood flow going to their lower legs/feet as prescribed by medical personnel.
Will some bowlers wear them because their favorite bowler does...? Yeah, probably a few... But dang, to say it's just a fashion statement & you don't care, but then then next breath call people who wear them losers (figuratively) is ignorant & laughable... Try doing a wee bit of research before posting baloney sausage for a change... ;)
So to answer komike's question in the OP, they are helpful. If I needed one, I'd wear it...
Hey, a Milo sighting. How ya doing? Who got to ya? Lost a bet? What happened?
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Watched this thread for awhile. Discussion would be anyone that is bowling with any aide other than their flesh is using an aide and why does anyone care? Is this correct? Compression sleeves, elbow braces, wrist supports of any kind, hada type tape worn outside the ball on bowlers thumb, other aides that I haven't mentioned. If one is an issue then they ALL are IMO.
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Cue: "but your shoes say Dexter....." semantics time.......
Good call dude....... :P :P
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I'm just throwing this out there, but if these are in fact very useful medicinally, why have we not seen players in full compression jumpsuits? Legs, Backs, Shoulders, Neck... Hell, maybe a compression bandana for headaches... I lean to believe they are a fashion statement that might provide some useful benefit like warmth... Similar to spandex and running. I have no hate for anyone that wears one.
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I'm just throwing this out there, but if these are in fact very useful medicinally, why have we not seen players in full compression jumpsuits? Legs, Backs, Shoulders, Neck... Hell, maybe a compression bandana for headaches... I lean to believe they are a fashion statement that might provide some useful benefit like warmth... Similar to spandex and running. I have no hate for anyone that wears one.
I'm just throwing this out there, if somebody needs a full compression jumpsuit, he's got way bigger issues than using it for bowling... ::) Are you GTx2's little sibling? :-\
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I'm just throwing this out there, but if these are in fact very useful medicinally, why have we not seen players in full compression jumpsuits? Legs, Backs, Shoulders, Neck... Hell, maybe a compression bandana for headaches...
wait for it......damn, it's a knee-slapper....
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I'm just throwing this out there, but if these are in fact very useful medicinally, why have we not seen players in full compression jumpsuits? Legs, Backs, Shoulders, Neck... Hell, maybe a compression bandana for headaches...
wait for it......damn, it's a knee-slapper....
Yeah, just like your 1st reply post in this thread... ???
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I'm 56 years old and don't usually fall for many gimmicks, so I must be a loser taking placebos. I have struggled with elbow pain on and off over the years. This year I've tossed in bicep tendonitis. I was told by a physical therapist to try a compression sleeve. I put it on before I go to the lanes and bowl. I can honestly say that my arm feels much better after bowling with the pain in the elbow and bicep area much less than if I didn't put a sleeve on. I wore compression shorts when playing ball and always felt they were a reason why I didn't have hamstring problems like a lot of the older guys I played with. I feel bad that if a guy wears such performance equipment that many of you look down on them and put them in the loser category. My sleeve is basic black with only a small company (Mcdavid) logo on it. I've never thought trying something that may help you is something that would make you a loser, I guess I am but at least I feel better physically!
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I'm 56 years old and don't usually fall for many gimmicks, so I must be a loser taking placebos. I have struggled with elbow pain on and off over the years. This year I've tossed in bicep tendonitis. I was told by a physical therapist to try a compression sleeve. I put it on before I go to the lanes and bowl. I can honestly say that my arm feels much better after bowling with the pain in the elbow and bicep area much less than if I didn't put a sleeve on. I wore compression shorts when playing ball and always felt they were a reason why I didn't have hamstring problems like a lot of the older guys I played with. I feel bad that if a guy wears such performance equipment that many of you look down on them and put them in the loser category. My sleeve is basic black with only a small company (Mcdavid) logo on it. I've never thought trying something that may help you is something that would make you a loser, I guess I am but at least I feel better physically!
I had worked for sport medicine dept. a couple of years ago. We service for the local NBA team, MMA fighters, and other pro and am high school athletes. These guys/gals wear them per PT orders to aid physical issues, or prevent injury. Others may wear arm sleeves to hide tattoos, but others wear them to prevent muscle issues like what you are experiencing.
Anyway, I used a McDaivd calf sleeve after injuring calf in 1997 in a MA tournament in Japan. I used it during training to prevent severe cramping for several months till it healed. (injury was called a "tennis calf" if I remember) But, with arm compression sleeves, I used it for other purposes other than to aid with physical issues. UnderArmor brand was great to absorb sweat, but I'm positive it does help individuals like yourself with muscle issues.
Do what you do sir, health is wealth. ;)
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I'm just throwing this out there, but if these are in fact very useful medicinally, why have we not seen players in full compression jumpsuits? Legs, Backs, Shoulders, Neck... Hell, maybe a compression bandana for headaches... I lean to believe they are a fashion statement that might provide some useful benefit like warmth... Similar to spandex and running. I have no hate for anyone that wears one.
My word, you are among the league leaders on this site for utter buffoonery.
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I did a search on google for compression sleeves to see exactly what the deal was with them, and this thread popped up, so I'm reviving it! Bottom line is that there IS a medical benefit to them. However, they didn't really start popping up much until the pros started using them, and honestly I can't say I had seen one in a bowling alley until we started seeing them on tv. Now did people start wearing them for the cool factor, or did some get curious about the function because they needed support and had never heard of them before? I'd say both. I think the percentage of people who wear them just to be cool is really low, then I think the majority of the people who wear them are the super competitive guys who take it a little too seriously and look for anything that will give them an edge. Then you have another small group of people who take it too seriously but aren't very good or who look for gimmicks and tools because they don't really understand the sport or want to practice. Then you have the people who wear them just for the support, and most of these just buy regular sleeves that have no bowling company logo on them specifically to avoid being called tools or primadonnas.
But the majority of people who wear them are just riding the latest trend and trying to act like it helps a lot more than it really does. I've got a buddy who started wearing them, and he says they help and he likes them, but I've seen no statistical evidence to back that up. Maybe he means his arm feels better afterwards, but a lot of people buy them because they think it's supposed to make them bowl better.
Somebody above mentioned it being like wearing an MMA shirt, and that's not far off. It's always the skinny dorky guys that wish they were tough that wear them, or the big buff guys who also wish they were that tough wearing them. Generally these guys walk around like tools, and that turns a lot of people off. I personally wouldn't be caught dead wearing one just because of the stigma that follows it. Honestly though, I've been wanting to try one just to see what kind of support it offers, I could use a bit . .
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Didn't Don Genalo wear one because of a bad elbow?
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I wear a sleeve once in awhile and will say that it works for me. I usually use these if something in elbow is hurting or if I am really sore, both from something at the gym. The sleeves keep the muscles warm and loose more so than if you were not wearing a sleeve.
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I got one just to try and couldn't tell much one way or another. Only bowling three games and not having any previous pain or problems makes it hard to judge.
If I knew I was going to bowl a block of games I would wear it for the extra support as a preventative.
Some one also mentioned a stigma ect. How many new people do you meet bowling in your leagues? If you are a d-bag already no one would think any different one way or another. lol If you aren't a d-bag people won't think you've become one.
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I have had elbow tendonitis in the past off and on. The first switch was to drop down 15 years ago to 15lb equipment. This took away the tennis elbow feeling for a few years. The last couple of years since I have crept up closer to the big 5-0, the elbow soreness has started to return. I asked my doctor and short of quitting, he suggested something that gave some compression as he is a tennis player still and goes thru the same kind of soreness at times. Storm put out an offer to purchase the compression sleeve on the cheap so I jumped in. It seems to keep the blood flowing and the muscle warmer. I am not as sore as much but it isn't pain free.
Now I get asked if it really does something or I am trying to be hip and trendy. For me, it really does help with the elbow soreness.
Occasionally I stop in to see some old softball playing buddies and will notice the younger guys wearing them on the ball field. I spoke to one of the younger guys who also bowls and he said all of the years of throwing baseball/softball and bowling makes his elbow hurt more than in the past. He also said the really young guys wear them because they think it makes them look cool.
I dunno, I guess it is like waring the all white belt that I notice the 20 somethings wearing to bowl in all of the time. :)
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Both my kids (teenagers) had sore arms and asked if they could get compression sleeves. I really didn't want to get it since to me, it was more of like the "in thing", and not really something that will help. So we went to Sports Authority and found a pair in the baseball area, which was way cheaper than buying singles. They had a color choice of black, black, and black. So they chose black. They both used it. My son used it twice, my daughter once. My son said it helped, my daughter said it didn't. Lol. I guess its personal preference. So if it works for you, then great, use it.
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For those of you who see these as a simple fashion statement you may want to read about compression and athletics.
There are undoubtedly a segment who wear them as a fashion statement and that completely fine as it's their money and their choice. Do you pay there bills? I doubt it and as such you should crawl back under your rock, grab a Busch beer, and complain about your pathetic life which causes you to judge others. I'm sure there are many things wrong with you that cause you to see us that use them as "losers".
I was intoduced to compression while serving in the Army where I lifted weights on a schedule of twice a day.
What does compression do? It keeps the muscles compressed warm, allows the muscles to be oxygenated better then if not compressed, tightens ligaments and deters injury, and allows a shorter recovery time after use. They are used in nearly all sports, for people with Cancer, people with diabetes, people who fly a lot. The uses are numerous.
Do you consider fighter pilots losers? Well If you haven't figured it out......they use compression to keep blood to their heads at high G's.
Now I am fully aware that bowling is not the same as flying a fighter jet. I do know that it's athletic sport that can and does cause injury. If I can prevent even one injury with it then it's worth MY money.
Have a nice day.
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Required to lift weights twice a day? You were in a different Army than I my friend.
If you think a sleeve benefits you, it probably does. Why do you give any thought about what people on a bowling website think of you?
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The sleeves work well at the buffet and on the lanes... I don't use them anymore since hometown buffet closed down and I don't bowl but 3 to 9 games a week...
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The sleeves work well at the buffet and on the lanes... I don't use them anymore since hometown buffet closed down and I don't bowl but 3 to 9 games a week...
You do know that you are allowed to go back for seconds, right? You don't have to get so much the first time that you need the extra support to carry your food back to the table. :-)
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The sleeves work well at the buffet and on the lanes... I don't use them anymore since hometown buffet closed down and I don't bowl but 3 to 9 games a week...
You do know that you are allowed to go back for seconds, right? You don't have to get so much the first time that you need the extra support to carry your food back to the table. :-)
Ah... no wonder they look at me funny...thanks man
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I frankly never put much value in the sleeves, thought they were more a fashion statement and just another item the ball companies throw at us to get folks to spend more money on.
However, a couple of weeks ago I went to practice and for the first time in my bowling life I felt a very sharp pain in my bicep. I continued to bowl with caution, but the pain persisted so I stopped.
On the way home I stopped at Walgreen and bought a Copper Fit elbow sleeve, but bigger so I could cover my bicep. I waited three days then went bowling wearing the sleeve and felt no pain. So was it the three day rest or did the compression sleeve help.
I'll never really know, except I have yet to have a return of pain and I wear the sleeve every time I bowl now.
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I know this is a old thread but just recently, past month or so, I have been getting really sore in my elbow and right arm...really painful sore like I almost don't think I can still throw...so I though about it last night and I'm looking at a Sleeve...not one of these by ball manufacturers but some have sipper pockets for cold packs or like I'm looking at a Icy Hot Sleeve so I can get some medication on it...then I'm still thinking about getting a sleeve to go over it and hold it in place...So, don't judge a book by it's cover guys...some say it's just a fashion statement and your a idiot for wearing one, you don't know what might be going on with them and you are stereotyping people...they might have a lot of soreness or a medical condition...they are also free to wear whatever they want...but I think I need one now to keep the soreness down for me...thinking maybe it Tendentious but not sure...
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For what's it's worth, I injured my forearm from lifting such that to just hold the ball parallel was painful. Other than obvious rest, I used a compression wrap from Phiten and to me it actually proved useful. It was thin enough to still allow free movement and yet created a specific compression point.
Not to plug a product, but this oddly is the second time a product like this actually helped for a completely different issue...whether it be all in my mind or not...it helped, so I use it.
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Some bowlers just cannot accept change. Not sure if it's macho-ism or they just like to ridicule others who figure they need a certain product to help them do better, and maybe be pain free. I remember when a few select bowlers started using two hands to bowl. Same thing happened. OMG, ::) it's different...! Let's Poo Pah and belittle them and maybe it will go away. :o
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Sounds like all the girly men who wear a compression sleeve are a little touchy about it. :o ;D
You fella's need to man up, just spray some Windex on it.
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Sounds like all the girly men who wear a compression sleeve are a little touchy about it. :o ;D
You fella's need to man up, just spray some Windex on it.
Windex DOES fix everything.
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Sounds like all the girly men who wear a compression sleeve are a little touchy about it. :o ;D
You fella's need to man up, just spray some Windex on it.
[/quoteSounds like all the girly men who wear a compression sleeve are a little touchy about it. :o ;D
You fella's need to man up, just spray some Windex on it.
And you with THAT avatar here have no room to speak. Talk about girly! You are the epitome of girly. ;D
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Sounds like all the girly men who wear a compression sleeve are a little touchy about it. :o ;D
You fella's need to man up, just spray some Windex on it.
[/quoteSounds like all the girly men who wear a compression sleeve are a little touchy about it. :o ;D
You fella's need to man up, just spray some Windex on it.
And you with THAT avatar here have no room to speak. Talk about girly! You are the epitome of girly. ;D
Ooooo, good come back. How will I ever get over horror of your amaz8ng slam. ::)
Anyone have some Windex I can borrow? ;D
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Bowlers wearing compression sleeves doesn't bother me. What bothers me is bowlers wearing "skinny sweats".....
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Bowlers wearing compression sleeves doesn't bother me. What bothers me is bowlers wearing "skinny sweats".....
Hey now, my compression sweats keep my muscles warm.
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Pansies...suck it up and throw man weight!
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I've been having some elbow soreness since I got back into bowling about a month ago. I figured I'd give it a try. I picked up a copper fit elbow sleeve with the kinesiology bands. It seems to work great. I forgot to put it on when I bowled Wednesday and had soreness after two games. I wore it Friday for two games and last night for 5 games and didn't have any issues.
For me when I wear it, I don't think about it. It doesn't do anything to improve my game and i put it on and forget about it till I take it off to leave. But when I don't wear it. I feel the pain in the elbow. I originally went looking at the bowling companies but those all seem a bit gaudy for my liking. I went with the copperfit. It's all black except for the kinesiology bands that are gold. I'd definitely recommend it to people with elbow soreness.