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Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« on: May 29, 2020, 11:56:49 AM »
Residing in NYC area, Summer leagues are a no go, unsure if our fall leagues will start up in September, hearing about an abbreviated season starting in January.  Fortunately bowling center owners have taken this time to maintain and update the center. 

Bowling membership in leagues have been on the decline over the past years, how many fear that people will get accustomed to staying home and don't need bowling in their lives?  My wife's mixed league has gone to 10-12 teams of 4, not sure she will be able to maintain.  Any opinions about membership in surrounding areas.

 

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2020, 11:33:07 AM »
Yes he is. I wish him luck.
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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2020, 11:46:01 AM »
As do I. The timing is just not ideal.

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2020, 10:25:38 AM »
As do I. The timing is just not ideal.

Feel the same, the whole situation is going to be interesting. I'm central of the state enough and rural enough we really haven't felt the affects of what it can do, so it doesn't feel as real. Tomorrow there's a sweeper in Rockford, but they aren't playing the bar being separate for packing people in, still not sure if it's the right call to go or not.

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2020, 01:06:30 PM »
Bowled for the first time in 14 weeks today.  Felt good to get out of the house for something other than a food/supplies run.  Bowled for about an hour then left.

It didn't necessarily feel 100% safe.  I was the only customer wearing a mask.  Employees all had on masks.  As people left, they were not going down to clean off tables/seats/monitors/scoring consoles.  They are also not requiring masks to enter the center.  Not the most ideal situation.

League starts next week.  It will be interesting to see how many people participate.  It will also be interesting to see how long we can make it before the first reported case at the center.  It is not a question of if, rather when.  I am staying masked up and not touching anyone else or anything unnecessarily.  If I do, hand sanitizer will be at the ready.
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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2020, 01:13:25 PM »
As do I. The timing is just not ideal.

Feel the same, the whole situation is going to be interesting. I'm central of the state enough and rural enough we really haven't felt the affects of what it can do, so it doesn't feel as real. Tomorrow there's a sweeper in Rockford, but they aren't playing the bar being separate for packing people in, still not sure if it's the right call to go or not.

I was talking with my Motiv rep and he says that Jerry has been running them every week. He also mentioned Rockford and I was like "If I had any equipment, I would." My old Global stuff that was in rotation got forgotten in a move a couple of months ago and I'm here with nothing. Heck, I think I have 1 thumb slug and my tape and shoes. I have an Assassin in the closet but I haven't put holes in anything yet.

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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2020, 01:30:38 PM »
As do I. The timing is just not ideal.

Feel the same, the whole situation is going to be interesting. I'm central of the state enough and rural enough we really haven't felt the affects of what it can do, so it doesn't feel as real. Tomorrow there's a sweeper in Rockford, but they aren't playing the bar being separate for packing people in, still not sure if it's the right call to go or not.

I was talking with my Motiv rep and he says that Jerry has been running them every week. He also mentioned Rockford and I was like "If I had any equipment, I would." My old Global stuff that was in rotation got forgotten in a move a couple of months ago and I'm here with nothing. Heck, I think I have 1 thumb slug and my tape and shoes. I have an Assassin in the closet but I haven't put holes in anything yet.

Yup, the Rockford ones are weekly too. I'll see Joe tomorrow as I think i'm going to make the trip.

Hope you can get some stuff punched soon and feel good about using it, not sure if you're still in that area but did hear Mardi Gras opened up in Dekalb, i'm sure they at least are making some attempt at keeping the place sterilized as Brian has always done well in keeping up with the place.

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2020, 04:58:58 PM »
As do I. The timing is just not ideal.

Feel the same, the whole situation is going to be interesting. I'm central of the state enough and rural enough we really haven't felt the affects of what it can do, so it doesn't feel as real. Tomorrow there's a sweeper in Rockford, but they aren't playing the bar being separate for packing people in, still not sure if it's the right call to go or not.

I was talking with my Motiv rep and he says that Jerry has been running them every week. He also mentioned Rockford and I was like "If I had any equipment, I would." My old Global stuff that was in rotation got forgotten in a move a couple of months ago and I'm here with nothing. Heck, I think I have 1 thumb slug and my tape and shoes. I have an Assassin in the closet but I haven't put holes in anything yet.

Yup, the Rockford ones are weekly too. I'll see Joe tomorrow as I think i'm going to make the trip.

Hope you can get some stuff punched soon and feel good about using it, not sure if you're still in that area but did hear Mardi Gras opened up in Dekalb, i'm sure they at least are making some attempt at keeping the place sterilized as Brian has always done well in keeping up with the place.

Brian is good people, I hope they come out of this in the black. I'm not a fan of 4 seasons. I'm supposed to be bowling the sport shot league in the fall with people that aren't going to bail on me, but everything is so unsure right now. I at least want to throw a Covert and Ghost in a bag before I try to compete lol

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2020, 01:18:22 AM »
CV case fatality rate is less than .26%.
And then consider the horrible treatment in nursing homes. Inflated numbers from ventilator murder in places like Elmhurst hospital. Couting people who suspect died "with" covid as "from" covid and it's a mess.

Still waiting for a shred of science that ANY of there meauses prevent illness. How about letting the young and health get it, develop immunity and then just forgot about the whole thing.

This is about destroying small businesses and implementing a tyranny control grid. Not about virus. Went bowling in CT this weekend, no one there gave a fuck. Of course place mostly empty. Didn't wear a face mask either. Even people at desk didn't unless they were directly talking to customers. Then it went right off again.

And this isn't going to "hurt" bowling. It continues it will END bowling and movies and weddings and holidays and hotels and pretty much anything that give life joy and meaning.

If someone else is afraid of covid-19, let them bunker down home or put on a hazmat suit any of the rare times they need to step outside. I don't care. What I do care about is you people destroying businesses and lives by supporting corrupt politicians and destroying businesses. In other words, you can live in fear and horror until you are dead, just leave the rest of us rationale folks alone to live our lives.

Why can't we just agree on that and end this nonsense?


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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2020, 04:35:01 AM »
At this point, all statistics provided by health experts should be viewed as "educated predictions" but not much more than that. Guidance has been changed several times over what is and isn't acceptable. The much-maligned HCQ treatment fell into, out of and may now be back into favor. Multiple states have funked up the reporting process for cases. A guy that I work with in my industry lost his dad to chronic COPD and they tried to report him as a Covid death despite him never testing positive for it. So many people tried to use this disease for one selfish reason or another (political, financial, chaos, whatever) that it's created a situation where credibility is in short supply. This Franklin Veaux guy who is linked above shows his own lack of grasp on reality at the end with "If we reopen the economy, it will be destroyed anyway," because he apparently doesn't understand infection rates and doesn't account for mutations or mortality factor.

Having said that, we're already past the point of needing to get back to living life in a semi-normal way, or we're going to cause other health issues (lack of testing at hospitals for other illnesses like cancer, mental health issues, drug overdoses, an uptick in domestic violence and violence against children who live in troubled homes, etc.).

I've been bowling a summer league at DeLuna in Pensacola, Fla. Kris Prather's dad runs the league and the pro shop there. We're muddling through as best we can. We did lose a team to positive Covid tests, and one of those bowlers was said to have ended up hospitalized. It's a 20-team league (60 bowlers) and most have stuck with it.

Masks are encouraged, but it's the summer in the South and probably only 5-10 bowlers actually bowl with the masks on due to heat/sweat on the face/etc. I tried and I can't do it. I would say to anyone reading this who hasn't tried to get back into league that you're probably not going to like bowling in league very much with one on, especially if you are in a warmer area.

By the way, in my critique of Covid response, I'm not saying I've found the way out of this, either. But I also can't sign onto the idea of essentially giving up two years of my already short life on this planet on the chance that I might get sick from this thing, either.

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2020, 06:43:13 AM »
I just practiced the other day----first time I bowled since mid march. I guess since I forgot what it felt like to bowl it didn't bother me to wear a mask--I am in south Florida and local ordinances dictate we must--long term having to wear a mask while bowling would irk me. they would only use every other lane. I also noticed that they removed half of the tables , so I imagine they are not having 2 teams to a pair for league bowling.  Part of me wants to say it is what it is, and another part of me is saying this is all ridiculous, just let things be the way they always were and hope for the best.

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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2020, 07:56:19 AM »
I just practiced the other day----first time I bowled since mid march. I guess since I forgot what it felt like to bowl it didn't bother me to wear a mask--I am in south Florida and local ordinances dictate we must--long term having to wear a mask while bowling would irk me. they would only use every other lane. I also noticed that they removed half of the tables , so I imagine they are not having 2 teams to a pair for league bowling.  Part of me wants to say it is what it is, and another part of me is saying this is all ridiculous, just let things be the way they always were and hope for the best.

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We have been back to bowling here for about a month now.  My state requires masks in all public places as well, even while working out/participating in indoor sports.  That being said, our bowling center has gone against the state and made them optional for customers.  90% of people don't wear them.

They only use every other lane for open bowling and senior leagues.  Otherwise it is leagues as usual...two teams to a pair...no distancing guidelines being followed.  League night is 70+ people bowling as normal despite the state restricting indoor groups to 25.  Two teams per pair, mostly no masks, giving "five" after strikes and spares, etc.  I am one of the 10% that wears masks, stays away from others between frames, and doesn't touch anyone.  There is definite risk being there, especially with 1,000 new cases per day still in our state, but it is good to be able to get out the house and do something for a couple of hours per week.

The guidance on this whole pandemic changes daily.  No one knows for certain what is right and wrong.  Might as well get out and try to do something "normal" once in a while instead of staying locked up at home.  I figure I am wearing my mask always in public, washing my hands regularly, not touching my face while out and about, not touching other people directly.  If I get it, I can at least say I tried my best to avoid it.
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Re: Corona - Lane Opening/Decline in Membership
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2020, 01:35:07 PM »
I just practiced the other day----first time I bowled since mid march. I guess since I forgot what it felt like to bowl it didn't bother me to wear a mask--I am in south Florida and local ordinances dictate we must--long term having to wear a mask while bowling would irk me. they would only use every other lane. I also noticed that they removed half of the tables , so I imagine they are not having 2 teams to a pair for league bowling.  Part of me wants to say it is what it is, and another part of me is saying this is all ridiculous, just let things be the way they always were and hope for the best.

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We have been back to bowling here for about a month now.  My state requires masks in all public places as well, even while working out/participating in indoor sports.  That being said, our bowling center has gone against the state and made them optional for customers.  90% of people don't wear them.

They only use every other lane for open bowling and senior leagues.  Otherwise it is leagues as usual...two teams to a pair...no distancing guidelines being followed.  League night is 70+ people bowling as normal despite the state restricting indoor groups to 25.  Two teams per pair, mostly no masks, giving "five" after strikes and spares, etc.  I am one of the 10% that wears masks, stays away from others between frames, and doesn't touch anyone.  There is definite risk being there, especially with 1,000 new cases per day still in our state, but it is good to be able to get out the house and do something for a couple of hours per week.

I'm rather envious. It's a 200 mile drive in one direction to the closest 2 bowling alleys open to us in Sacramento, and for one, it may be an 800 mile drive back, as the closest that's open is in Weed, followed by Yreka, then Medford, Oregon. However, since those have had more relaxing rules, they are also seeing a spike in outbreaks to where they are getting shut down again. Reno/Carson City is out. Bay area is out. Central valley to SoCal is out. Vegas is out. so we're really hurting and anxious to bowl over here, but just can't, because some people think that this is tyranny, don't want to adhere to any guidances, and thinking that this is just a huge conspiracy.

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The guidance on this whole pandemic changes daily.  No one knows for certain what is right and wrong.  Might as well get out and try to do something "normal" once in a while instead of staying locked up at home.  I figure I am wearing my mask always in public, washing my hands regularly, not touching my face while out and about, not touching other people directly.  If I get it, I can at least say I tried my best to avoid it.

I will say this. It was just mentioned throughout international news outlets (I stress "international", so people will not pick any political sides in this) that after 8 months of this, the biggest isolated country in the world just had its first confirmed case - through no fault of its own; someone crossed the border from the country below it that had already had outbreaks - and they are locking down even faster and harder than we have over the same 8 months. They already appear on track to eliminate this while waiting for a vaccine to be produced worldwide. You know it will be sad if they get it under control vaster than we do because of the naivety/ignorance of people here.

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« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2020, 02:00:52 PM »
"Naivety/Ignorance" is actually believing a news report that North Korea hasn't had a single case until now(regardless of the source of the report).  ::)
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