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Covid 19 shutdown
« on: November 17, 2020, 12:57:40 PM »
Well it has happened again here in Washington State we have shutdown bowling again, if it lasts longer than a few months I know we will be losing at least 3 of our centers. I donít golf but that may be my only option. Sad because once gone probably no chance for return of a great family sport option

 

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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2020, 04:11:49 PM »
There is really no way to enforce the mandates.  Authorities cannot be everywhere, and simply do not have time and resources, to go around to every call of someone not wearing a mask in order to fine them and enforce a mask law.  You would also be asking the citizens to step up and call police to report non-compliance, and that would lead to some crazy fights I am sure.

At this point, I believe it is better for the public health officials to appeal to people as they are doing and continue to stress that wearing a mask in public right now is the decent, responsible thing to do as a citizen.  For the most part, I want to believe that people do have some sort of compassion towards their fellow man and would want to do what is necessary to help each other out.  There will always be resistance, but I do not think people would want to find out they unknowingly passed the virus to someone else and got them seriously ill or worse.  Wearing a mask reduces the chances of that happening, whether you are at the bowling center or running in to the quickie mart for a gallon of milk.

Masks are not perfect, and are certainly not convenient.  However we are most likely stuck with them for another 12 months.  The vaccine is coming, some reports say as early as today for emergency use authorization.  It will take until next spring before they are widely available and even then there will be 50% of the population that will not want to get it.  Health officials said in our state, the vaccine will be recommended however will not be mandatory.  I am not sure what percentage of the population will need to be inoculated before health officials will be ready to say "Okay!  We are all set!  No more restrictions, no more masks!"

Especially when the "Authorities" don't follow their own rules. It tends to make people ignore them.
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2020, 04:56:04 PM »
There is really no way to enforce the mandates.  Authorities cannot be everywhere, and simply do not have time and resources, to go around to every call of someone not wearing a mask in order to fine them and enforce a mask law.  You would also be asking the citizens to step up and call police to report non-compliance, and that would lead to some crazy fights I am sure.

At this point, I believe it is better for the public health officials to appeal to people as they are doing and continue to stress that wearing a mask in public right now is the decent, responsible thing to do as a citizen.  For the most part, I want to believe that people do have some sort of compassion towards their fellow man and would want to do what is necessary to help each other out.  There will always be resistance, but I do not think people would want to find out they unknowingly passed the virus to someone else and got them seriously ill or worse.  Wearing a mask reduces the chances of that happening, whether you are at the bowling center or running in to the quickie mart for a gallon of milk.

Masks are not perfect, and are certainly not convenient.  However we are most likely stuck with them for another 12 months.  The vaccine is coming, some reports say as early as today for emergency use authorization.  It will take until next spring before they are widely available and even then there will be 50% of the population that will not want to get it.  Health officials said in our state, the vaccine will be recommended however will not be mandatory.  I am not sure what percentage of the population will need to be inoculated before health officials will be ready to say "Okay!  We are all set!  No more restrictions, no more masks!"

Especially when the "Authorities" don't follow their own rules. It tends to make people ignore them.

Especially when the president makes fun of people wearing masks and is rarely seen wearing one.
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2020, 05:59:56 PM »
There is really no way to enforce the mandates.  Authorities cannot be everywhere, and simply do not have time and resources, to go around to every call of someone not wearing a mask in order to fine them and enforce a mask law.  You would also be asking the citizens to step up and call police to report non-compliance, and that would lead to some crazy fights I am sure.

At this point, I believe it is better for the public health officials to appeal to people as they are doing and continue to stress that wearing a mask in public right now is the decent, responsible thing to do as a citizen.  For the most part, I want to believe that people do have some sort of compassion towards their fellow man and would want to do what is necessary to help each other out.  There will always be resistance, but I do not think people would want to find out they unknowingly passed the virus to someone else and got them seriously ill or worse.  Wearing a mask reduces the chances of that happening, whether you are at the bowling center or running in to the quickie mart for a gallon of milk.

Masks are not perfect, and are certainly not convenient.  However we are most likely stuck with them for another 12 months.  The vaccine is coming, some reports say as early as today for emergency use authorization.  It will take until next spring before they are widely available and even then there will be 50% of the population that will not want to get it.  Health officials said in our state, the vaccine will be recommended however will not be mandatory.  I am not sure what percentage of the population will need to be inoculated before health officials will be ready to say "Okay!  We are all set!  No more restrictions, no more masks!"

Especially when the "Authorities" don't follow their own rules. It tends to make people ignore them.

Especially when the president makes fun of people wearing masks and is rarely seen wearing one.

I don't recall the orange headed idiot issuing a mask mandate. And I know you can't be referring to the "President Elect" as he has been hiding in the basement the entire time.
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2020, 06:21:44 PM »
I hate it when a post that concerns & starts out "bowling" gets hijacked for political reasons & responses.  ::)

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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2020, 06:38:52 AM »
The weak-minded among us have become so brainwashed by the media that they can't buy ketchup without it being a political issue.

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« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2020, 10:08:57 AM »
The weak-minded among us have become so brainwashed by the media that they can't buy ketchup without it being a political issue.
You do know that when you use the word "us", you throw yourself most definitely in the mix too don't you? But that's OK & don't feel like the Lone Ranger now, oh feeble minded one, hear?  ::)

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« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2020, 12:51:21 PM »
I thought this website was meant to help us all escape the extremist politics of our current times and the loud, obnoxious, crazy people of both sides who won't shut up about it.  I guess that was very naive.  Seems like the loud, obnoxious, crazy people will find a way to make their opinions heard no matter what the topic is.

Can we please just say that both sides have valid points, there is no perfect solution to the COVID situation, and we'll all have a better chance of getting through this if we calm down and listen to each other instead of insulting each other?  Yeah, I didn't think so.
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 12:55:23 PM »
Like it or not, Covid 19 IS a political issue. So the thread wasn't hijacked.
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 01:05:02 PM »
Well, the thread started as informative and directly related to bowling before it turned into a political insult fest.  So I guess "hijacked" depends on your perspective.  I reject the idea that politics necessarily equates to insults devoid of factual information.  While that probably doesn't mean that the thread was hijacked, it does mean that it's wildly off-base from its original topic with absolutely no discernible informative value.
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2020, 04:21:40 PM »
PA is now restricting "indoor gatherings" including indoor sports to either 10% or 5% of licensed capacity.  0-2000 is limited to 10%, 2001-5000 is limited to 5%.  Our center is in the 5% band, so restricted to approximately 200 people.  Hopefully that is as restrictive as we get!
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2020, 04:23:31 PM »
PA is now restricting "indoor gatherings" including indoor sports to either 10% or 5% of licensed capacity.  0-2000 is limited to 10%, 2001-5000 is limited to 5%.  Our center is in the 5% band, so restricted to approximately 200 people.  Hopefully that is as restrictive as we get!

I wish that was the case here in southern California but it keeps looking more and more likely bowling won't be open until summer 2021

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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2020, 05:15:40 PM »
PA is now restricting "indoor gatherings" including indoor sports to either 10% or 5% of licensed capacity.  0-2000 is limited to 10%, 2001-5000 is limited to 5%.  Our center is in the 5% band, so restricted to approximately 200 people.  Hopefully that is as restrictive as we get!

I wish that was the case here in southern California but it keeps looking more and more likely bowling won't be open until summer 2021

How many bowling alleys you think will be left at that time to bowl in?
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2020, 05:16:29 PM »
No bowling for me in either league until I believe week of 12/14
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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2020, 05:41:02 PM »
PA is now restricting "indoor gatherings" including indoor sports to either 10% or 5% of licensed capacity.  0-2000 is limited to 10%, 2001-5000 is limited to 5%.  Our center is in the 5% band, so restricted to approximately 200 people.  Hopefully that is as restrictive as we get!

I wish that was the case here in southern California but it keeps looking more and more likely bowling won't be open until summer 2021

How many bowling alleys you think will be left at that time to bowl in?

I honestly have no idea how many will be left. I know the ones around me did fairly well for the most part but being forced to stay closed by the government and receiving hardly any money could be the end.

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Re: Covid 19 shutdown
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2020, 07:24:41 PM »
PA is now restricting "indoor gatherings" including indoor sports to either 10% or 5% of licensed capacity.  0-2000 is limited to 10%, 2001-5000 is limited to 5%.  Our center is in the 5% band, so restricted to approximately 200 people.  Hopefully that is as restrictive as we get!

I wish that was the case here in southern California but it keeps looking more and more likely bowling won't be open until summer 2021

How many bowling alleys you think will be left at that time to bowl in?

It's going to be the same throughout the state. NorCal is just as affected. In fact, with 39 of the 58 counties going into the widespread tier and the only 2 counties that could have an alley open don't have any in them, the entire state is out.

We can't even hit up Nevada either, because they are going on all but full lockdown for 3 weeks starting Wednesday. I don't know how Medford is doing either, so right now for the entire state, the closest bowling alleys open are in Kingman and Yuma.

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