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elmatador

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sanded pearl vs polished solid
« on: December 27, 2010, 11:10:23 PM »
ok so what is the difference let's say between a fast in oob and a furious polished or vice versa a furious oob and a fast sanded. I am wondering if it will react the same or a sanded pearl will roll same as a solid but give a lil more lenght due to it being a pearl and vice versa if i polish a solid bowling ball will it be the same as the pearl in oob or will it tend to still go long due to the polish but still have a little earlier read than the all pearl due to the ball being originally solid with the polish on top

 

Dan Belcher

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 07:17:58 AM »
A sanded Fast will probably give more overall hook than a polished Furious, with a defined motion off the breakpoint. It's less elastic than the solid coverstock and therefore doesn't naturally want to roll as much in oil, but it's still got very open pores and lots of grooves in the cover to create friction in oil, and fresh, grippy surface for good response to dry boards. The polish on the solid cover will give it less friction in oil, and also less violent response to the dry. Whenever I've polished a solid, it's been good for keeping the ball smooth, but letting me move right. Whenever I sand a pearl, it's useful for creating some skid in the fronts, but still reading the lanes well and being very strong downlane, which is good for when the shot breaks down and I need to move left to chase head oil, but polished stuff is lazy off the spot downlane.

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 09:13:37 AM »
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A sanded Fast will probably give more overall hook than a polished Furious, with a defined motion off the breakpoint. It's less elastic than the solid coverstock and therefore doesn't naturally want to roll as much in oil, but it's still got very open pores and lots of grooves in the cover to create friction in oil, and fresh, grippy surface for good response to dry boards. The polish on the solid cover will give it less friction in oil, and also less violent response to the dry. Whenever I've polished a solid, it's been good for keeping the ball smooth, but letting me move right. Whenever I sand a pearl, it's useful for creating some skid in the fronts, but still reading the lanes well and being very strong downlane, which is good for when the shot breaks down and I need to move left to chase head oil, but polished stuff is lazy off the spot downlane.


So from what i am getting is that a polished solid will be less angular than a pearl polished and that a a sanded pearl compared to a sanded solid will have a lil more pop on the back vs the regular sanded solid correct? Thx for ur info

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2014, 08:35:59 PM »
I know this is an old post, but I too have been curious about this question. Has anyone been able to have a sanded pearl and a polished hybrid/solid of the same ball with identical layouts and have achieved similar reactions?

IMHO: Having watched many ball reaction videos and from my experience, I feel like I see a lot similarities between a sanded pearl and a polished hybrid...and, likewise, a sanded hybrid and a polished solid (of course, need to play around with the different grits/polish to make a fair comparison). E.g. A sanded Hyroad Pearl was similar to a lightly polished Hyroad to me (since the coverstock is different by a "half factor"), but I felt like a sanded Hyroad Pearl and a polished Hyroad Solid was not quite the same (since the coverstock is different by 1 factor). However, sanding the Hyroad gave me similar reaction to a lightly polished Hyroad Solid (again a half factor), though I felt the original Hyroad gave me greater hitting power at the pins. I think this may sound very logical or "duh" to some, but I took away 2 practical applications for my future ball selections:

1. Gives me more appreciation for a hybrid cover's "best of both worlds" and versatility, as advertised.
2. If I'm on the market for a used/clearance ball, I can expand my search. I will consider the option to get the hybrid version of it and modify the surface accordingly in the case that I can't get the solid or pearl version of that ball.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2014, 08:43:10 PM by jlee0924 »

kidlost2000

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2014, 06:55:33 AM »
Surface is the bigger factor. I've always wondered is a pearl really a pearl....I've come to believe it isn't as it appears.

Surface is everything.
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2014, 10:02:39 AM »
I've actually found a lot of success applying surface to pearlized balls. My Lucid came out of the box at 4000 matte, but I have always tended to use it at a lightly scuffed 2000. At that surface, the ball still gets through the heads, but it gives more midlane read and tames down the backend a bit. Likewise, I also enjoy going with rough surface grits under polish on some pearls. I had a Deranged that was dynamite at 500 grit with polish on top.

As kidlost2000 said, surface is everything. Don't get locked into a ball's box finish. Play around, and you might be amazed at the different reaction shapes you can achieve by changing surfaces around.

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2014, 10:39:20 AM »
I have never really cared much for the reaction when I sand pearls.  Solids polished, sometimes.  Probably says more about my game than any truism about surface.  I do know that several of my best balls came in a matte finish, and were much better when they polished to the lane.  That has been true of my IQ solid, my Lucid, and going way back my original VG.

On the other end of the scale several real strong solids could not be improved for my game by polishing.  Nano and Mastermind are two examples. 

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Re: sanded pearl vs polished solid
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 01:31:31 PM »
I can relate to this with a couple of pieces that I currently have, namely my Reax Version 2 solid, which come polished out of box, and my Reax Pearl, which comes 4000 matte out of box.

Once I finally accepted the fact my Reax Version 2 was not a heavy oil piece it was played up to be, I found fairly good lane reaction after applying a 3000 grit pad to it when bowling on most THS's in my area.

I've had mixed success when appying more surface (as low as a 500 grit pad) to my Reax Pearl (solid as Phil Cardinale once described to me). But I've seen more consistent ball motion if the ball surface is 2000 or finer.

That tells me that some bowling balls take well to surface adjustments while others don't take well to moderate adjustments or with none at all based on your own game.
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