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six pack

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Drilling a strong ball week
« on: February 03, 2020, 12:54:04 PM »
I really struggle on our fresh pattern and figured it is from my lack of spinning the ball and the beat up hpls I bowl on  Ive tried plenty of balls and layouts with not much luck. Anyone try a drilling something with a strong cover weak such as a 51/2 pin from pap and work well?  Im really considering it
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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2020, 03:49:43 PM »
Last asym I had was a conspiracy pearl drilled 70x3 3/4x 20. I could play anywhere between 2nd and fith arrow. Never carried more then two in a row and left way more 8s 9s and flat tens then I care to remember. I gave the ball 3 weeks and offd it. And yes I did try cover adjustments. Had same issues with other low rg asyms in the past. I give up on them and frankly dont need them. I can cover just as many boards with symmetrical core balls and make better adjustments with them. I could see the use under certain extreme conditions that I never see. Now I always seem to bowl good with the higher rg balls but they are not that popular so selection is limited
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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2020, 07:09:33 PM »
An Asym drilled 70 x 3 3/4 x 20 is far from a weak layout on an asym.Strong layout on a strong ball.

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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2020, 07:44:16 AM »
so what a weak layout that won't roll early and still have shape down lane? (not roll forward)
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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2020, 08:03:09 AM »
6" pin to pap

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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2020, 09:43:25 AM »
Asymmetrical?
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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2020, 09:58:02 AM »
Yes. Try pin above middle finger, if RH. The rule is the further pin is away from PAP, the longer the transition, skid phase is. Still will give you shape at end, but just further down and more responsive to friction. Hopefully i got that right.

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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2020, 01:10:21 PM »
pin distances closer to 6 1/4" produce more forward roll  pin distances closer to 2 3/4" produce more side roll. my brain keeps telling me closer pin to pap will result in an early roll. I know as fact what a 5" pin will roll forward on my so a 6" pin to pap would only be worse.
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Re: Drilling a strong ball week
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2020, 07:08:30 AM »
The biggest factor is the MB, especially if the intermediate diff is pretty high.  According to Mo, putting the MB close to the VAL will produce more forward roll and read the pattern more overall.  Putting it 6 1/2 - 6 3/4 from PAP will produce a sharper breakpoint.  This video gives a good understanding of what the different layouts will do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2v78FPhUSE

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