Post by: luvmykings on February 14, 2012, 04:33:32 AM
My Wed league has forgotten where they put the oil so now I'm in need of a dry lane ball. Any suggestions? Thanks
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Edited by luvmykings on 2/14/2012 at 1:34 PM
Edited by luvmykings on 2/14/2012 at 1:34 PM
Post by: j harvey on February 14, 2012, 12:44:44 PM
XXXL...
White Dot....
Post by: Monster Pike on February 14, 2012, 01:08:42 PM
Post by: ccrider on February 14, 2012, 01:54:51 PM
How dry is dry????
Urethane. If not, Plastic.
If dry means light oil, find a weak pearl or weakly drilled pearl and have at it.
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Post by: xrayjay on February 14, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
so far the slingshot has worked for me....I have it drilled with 5 3/4'ish pin (up) and cg on the positive side - OOB
seeing you like storm, the breeze pearl is too strong (OOB) for real dry stuff imo...I have the BP drilled very similar to the slingshot......
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Post by: NoseofRI on February 14, 2012, 04:11:17 PM
Without anybody seeing how you bowl or what you are bowling on, all the "suggestions" are no different than you going to each companies website and looking at their weakest ball(s). It's just going to be a list of bowling balls, none of which anybody can say for sure that it'll work for you.
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Post by: luvmykings on February 14, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
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Edited by luvmykings on 2/14/2012 at 8:50 PM
Edited by luvmykings on 2/14/2012 at 8:50 PM
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2012, 09:49:10 AM
After much experimentation, I have found that the "top-of the-line" ball of yesterday, becomes the medium ball of today. Then if you re-drill it very weak, it becomes a useful ball for med-lite oil. Using that philosophy I have a whole library of useful older pieces now. It just depends on your idea of "DRY".
My current arsenal for lite oil to dry situations are as follows:
Dry:
Shock and Awe- drilled 6x5, pin below the middle finger
N-sane Revs- drilled 4.5x4, pin down under the ring
Blue Hammer- drilled pin up, 4x5
Ebo Wolf- drilled lefthanded for extremes
Lite Oil:
RG Sonic-X- in a Tommy Jones layout(high pin, high flare, but I tweak the coverstock for control)
Shock Zone- Tommy Jones layout ( with just a little polish for push and control)
Riot- 4.5x 4, pin over ring, with polish
SuperSonic-4x5, pin next to ring, sanded (no polish)
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Post by: JohnP on February 15, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
This reminds me of an old hustler's trick (think rubber ball era). Come into the bowling center late on a Friday night and leave one of your old balls on the rack. Usually the good bowlers showed up late Saturday morning for pot games. Come in, rent a pair of shoes, and start looking for the ball you left. Ask if you can join the pot game, explaining that you're from out of town and don't have your bag with you. Lose badly until you can get the stakes raised, then clean up. -- JohnP
Post by: Zanatos1914 on February 15, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
I would use my book avg - Skip that night..
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Post by: mainzer on February 15, 2012, 04:32:18 PM
Not the ball, it is the drill pattern on the ball and how you release the ball.
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Post by: dmonroe814 on February 15, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
I use the C300 Scout reactive. Weak core, so it doesn't hook a lot, but still carrys well.
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Tweener-Cranker (14Mph 350Revs)
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Light: C300 Scout Reactive / Brunswich Avalanche Pearl
Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 15, 2012, 10:47:30 PM
Wasn't there an old rubber ball with the name Ace? I remember seeing one back in the '60's but don't remember if it was the name of the ball or the name of the company. If that was the one being mentioned, it would be weak enough, but probably not the Storm X-Factor Ace.
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Post by: charlest on February 15, 2012, 11:09:54 PM
Gary,
I can hardly imagine anyone using an Ace hard rubber ball today.I had to assume it was the Storm Ace.
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Post by: noslouch on February 16, 2012, 01:42:06 AM
Luvmykings,
I could not imagine Irvine Lanes or Tustin Lanes being so dry. Maybe a change in hand release. Otherwise I do agree with Mike Austin. Pick up a Motiv Recon RX1 Silver. It is a great ball for dry with good recovery. Or if you want a little stronger cover but still good length get the Orange Motiv Recon RX1. It is a retired ball, but still can be found on a few sites. Also a good spare ball for the pesky 7's. I use mine at Fountain Bowl. Doing fine at a 220 clip.
Good luck.
Post by: charlest on February 16, 2012, 06:52:41 AM
Ok, since lumy won't give us any true info, there are lots of balls out there for dry/light oil lanes.None are bad, none are best.
Slingshot
Recon RX-1
Tropical Breeze
Avalanche Urethane
Blue Hammer
Chainsaw
Taboo Spare (polyester)
XXXL (polyester)
There are even some really old-fashioned pancake cores with resin or urethane covers:
Polar Ice (both solid and pearl urethane)
Scout (resin)
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Post by: ccrider on February 16, 2012, 09:17:48 PM
You left out Storm Natural, Natural Pearl and Visionary Slate Blue Gargoyle.
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Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 17, 2012, 05:51:20 AM
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Post by: vkowalski1970 on February 17, 2012, 07:25:57 AM
My Arsenal:
Nano.............................55x4.25x45.........500/2000
Buzzbomb Carnage........45x5x40..............4000
Nomad Solid..................60x4.5x35...........1500 polished
Pink Panther Pearl..........60x4.5x40...........OB, 6421 2x compound+polish
Midnight Vibe............... .60x5x40.............4000 polished
Red Backlash..................70x3x30.............4000 polished
Chainsaw SOS................45x5.25x40........OB, 4000 polished
Taboo Spare...................50x4x30.............OB
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2012, 08:15:00 AM
Amen to that Slate Blue Gargoyle! It definitely works. The Storm Naturals are great lite oil balls but on toast will ping ten-pins like crazy!
I have not tried the Chainsaw yet. Sounds promising. The 900 Global Link is a certified winner for sure. Ball doesn't move a whole lot yet drives and finishes well. My teammate has one, and I throw it better than he does!
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Post by: charlest on February 17, 2012, 09:31:14 AM
As far as I can see, the Storm Natural is not for light oil unless you have high ball speed or polish it
The Slate Blue Gargoyle was also far too strong for light oil. Had one; I needed medium-light to almost medium oil to use it properly. Can't find them any more anyway.
The Storm Pearl Natural, if you shine it or have high ball speed, can work for light to medium-light oil.
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Edited by charlest on 2/17/2012 at 10:32 AM
Post by: LuckyLefty on February 17, 2012, 09:35:10 AM
I have a great Tropical storm(weak core strong cover), Yesterday I just threw my new to Me Columbia Jazz.
Stronger core weaker cover(I feel). Love the looks of it and roll! Soon to drill for me to really know!
Regards,
Luckylefty
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Post by: Zanatos1914 on February 17, 2012, 11:08:23 AM
Let me ask the question ....
Do you mean the Heads, Mids, High Backend or the entire lane is toast..
Is there any oil in the middle of the lane?
If you cant find any oil period throw a plastic corner to corner with no wrist..
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Post by: LuckyLefty on February 17, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
Ohhhh, I saw the post on the Sonic X! I liked that ball. But not the pearl!
I did not think of the highly polished Sonic X as for dry but as awesome for wet dry! Almost like a 2 X 2 but with a nice backend!
Regards,
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Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2012, 02:41:03 PM
@charlest: all the guys around here throwing Storm Naturals on lite oil have high ball speed. Good observation.
@zanatos: generally what we see around here are trashed heads and flying backends. There may be a little oil in the middle.
@ LuckyLefty: Yup! You're right on it. I own two Sonic-X's, one is scuffed and one is shined. Both are all about control and good, solid backend! There is no pronounced hook, just a nice gentle bend, and they work.
Sorry to hi-jack your thread luvmykings!!
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Post by: aussiedave on February 18, 2012, 06:26:52 AM
The Track 300C is a smoother ball, as long as you don't drill it aggressively. The reviews for it are quite impressive.
I have done a lot of soul-searching for the same type of ball as the op wants and this is one I would buy if I had to fork out the cash. My speed is 13-14 m.p.h., semi-roller stroker/tweener with low to medium revs.
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Edited by aussiedave on 2/18/2012 at 7:33 AM
Post by: charlest on February 18, 2012, 09:33:08 AM
While it is Track's best ball for lighter oil, it is stronger than some others, like the Recon Silver, and the Slingshot. It is closer to the Orange Recon solid in overall oil handling and hook.
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Post by: Monster Pike on February 18, 2012, 10:33:20 AM
I can believe that... I've seen some guys doing it after being frustrated & bowl half way decent... I've seen some kids come in for open bowling & score with them as well...
I like those old Storm balls. I have an original X-Factor that I play around with once in a while. I had an O-seas release of the Trifecta, called the Perfecta with the Rad + core, but it cracked....
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Post by: REVerse on February 18, 2012, 09:44:50 PM
As much as I hate to admit- The Tropical Storm balls are great on lite patterns. Although, if you are bowling on a Sunday evening when the lanes haven't been massaged since before Friday nite league - Just do plastic and work on accuracy. Nothing sucks more than dry to dry to greasy carrydown.
Regarding Wednesday nite league with light oil- your pro shop owner may be coordinating a deal with the lane master/mechanic to do that on purpose. He may be trying to sell/move some balls to match up with the "new" oil pattern. Then, you and many others get suckered into purchasing new balls- only to see the pattern change to heavy oil again. The pro shop owner made some needed money and the mechanic gets a piece of the "action."
Overall- accuracy is the key. Period. I like symmetrical cores, reactive pearl covers, and weak layouts. You can do it all that way. "Big hook" looks cool, but is not always the best way to score consistently. Accuracy baby! Yeah!
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Post by: luvmykings on February 19, 2012, 08:45:05 PM
Just Stormin' through!