Post by: Zanatos1914 on April 14, 2008, 05:46:35 AM
That is my take on dry lanes...
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Post by: Dan Belcher on April 14, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
Post by: JMORRIS on April 14, 2008, 01:54:30 PM
I'm grinding it out, trying to fill frames, instead of throwing strike, after strike, after strike.
It's also a good way to develop a "B" game. Either changing hand positions, line, etc...to give yourself another option when the lanes aren't what your used to.
Post by: jbruno6 on April 14, 2008, 01:57:57 PM
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Post by: dizzyfugu on April 14, 2008, 02:16:18 PM
Anyway, burnt lanes not a good training ground, though. A nice occasion, but a trap if you do not play anything else.
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Post by: Zanatos1914 on April 14, 2008, 02:40:10 PM
Most of you would say get a dry lane ball...
If you are in a tournament and you notice the lanes are starting to dry really bad but you are knocking down pins. Would you (a) change balls and its a good chance you are going to be lost for about 3 to 4 shots (By then the match is over or (b) Keep throwing the ball since you get some strikes and knocking down pins...
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Post by: dizzyfugu on April 14, 2008, 02:49:23 PM
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If you are in a tournament and you notice the lanes are starting to dry really bad but you are knocking down pins. Would you (a) change balls and its a good chance you are going to be lost for about 3 to 4 shots (By then the match is over or (b) Keep throwing the ball since you get some strikes and knocking down pins...
Depends on the situation, I know what you mean.
I'd stick with the same ball if it was just one game left until everything is over.
But if you have a longer horizon, I'd switch to a weaker piece or at least try a different line with the current ball. If you have the opportunity and there's no pressure at hand, the 11th frame is a very good aoccasion to test things out with that extra shot, just to have an idea where to start in the next game, so that you are not completely lost.
Besides, you should know your equipment well enough that you have a good idea where to start on the given condition with the weaker ball, or have an idea how to adjust quickly within a couple of shots. It is also a good thing for practice - soemthing that's IMHO underestimated - to switch balls and find back to the pocket quickly, because that's what counts (literally) when you are in a pressure situation that calls for a solution.
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Post by: chitown on April 14, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
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Bone dry bowling is out of league because I might be able to strike but every shot is a please shot... You constantly deal with over under results and sometimes you get lucky and find just a drop of oil for a couple of shots and then its back to the drawing board..
Most of you would say get a dry lane ball...
If you are in a tournament and you notice the lanes are starting to dry really bad but you are knocking down pins. Would you (a) change balls and its a good chance you are going to be lost for about 3 to 4 shots (By then the match is over or (b) Keep throwing the ball since you get some strikes and knocking down pins...
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That's a catch 22 because you don't want to shoot yourself out of a match when changing balls. This is why it's very important to REALLY know each ball reaction in your arsenal and how they compare to each other. If you notice the pair you just started shooting on is bone dry then make the ball switch right away. If you know your equipment's reactions really good then getting lined up may not take you 4 frames.
I have been using a scout high flare urethane for my dry lane ball. I also just recently bought a Liberator which is a urethane ball. Urethane bowling balls generally work very well on broken down dry patterns. Usually there's still a tad bit of head oil on broken down shots but the mids and backends are toast. These are the type of patterns urethane will work great on. If the lanes are so fried that urethane is too much then a plastic white dot usually works well.
I would much rather switch equipment and have a chance at scoring high, rather than keep using the same ball that's not working. It's hard to out bowl a bad ball reaction.
I think any tourney bowler should have a urethane ball in their arsenal at all times!
Post by: sheppy335 on April 14, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
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Post by: tenpin477 on April 14, 2008, 03:00:47 PM
If you want practice get your house to put out PBA shots. And if they already do, find out when they do. I believe my house does it over the summer, and ill be sure to be there at every session.
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Post by: michelle on April 14, 2008, 03:01:25 PM
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Bone dry bowling is out of league because I might be able to strike but every shot is a please shot... You constantly deal with over under results and sometimes you get lucky and find just a drop of oil for a couple of shots and then its back to the drawing board..
Most of you would say get a dry lane ball...
If you are in a tournament and you notice the lanes are starting to dry really bad but you are knocking down pins. Would you (a) change balls and its a good chance you are going to be lost for about 3 to 4 shots (By then the match is over or (b) Keep throwing the ball since you get some strikes and knocking down pins...
I would have no qualms about making the ball change. Only through practice in all available environments do you learn the relationships between each piece of equipment in the arsenal. Knowing those relationships is CRITICAL to being able to pull something else out of the bag and be reasonably certain that you can put the ball into the pocket...
It was precisely that reason that in the event some years ago where I broke my hand, I was able to put up the SonicX and go to the Silver Streak and on the very next frame put the ball into the pocket. It didn't carry and the broken hand wreaked havoc on my abilities to pick up a 10 pin that day, but the move made with the ball change was one that did not leave me feeling lost on the approach...
Post by: Goof1073 on April 14, 2008, 03:10:11 PM
...for me it helps with match-play styled tournaments where they can get pretty dry.
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Post by: mumzie on April 14, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
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don't even worry about hitting the pocket necessarily. Just pick a target and a breakpoint and try to hit them repeatedly.
This is the way I normally practice. I throw a half game or so to loosen up, then do some spare drills with the plastic ball. Then I work on my accuracy/targeting. Whether the lanes are dry or oily, I deliberately pick a ball that is NOT suited to the condition, and practice on either the first 15 feet (to the arrows), or to the breakpoint - ONLY. I don't care what the pins do - in fact, I don't want to strike, because then I get fewer balls for the money.
Practice is practice is practice. Scores shouldn't count.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on April 14, 2008, 04:49:11 PM
I bowled last week in my new house again the lanes were blown out and again i stunk it up with another 550 series. My average in that league has gone down 8 pins in 10 weeks, the place Sunset Station gets tons of open play and the run 20 feet of head oil over the top of fried mid's with carrydown. It is harder than PBA and Team usa patterns i have bowled on, i can hit the hole all day and carry nothing.
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Post by: Grayson on April 15, 2008, 06:47:01 AM
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Perfect opportunity to try different hand positions
2nd that as well was Dizzy said
I run into those conditions few times as the local center really has very well maintenance.
But when that happens I know my trustworthy H2O will give me the lenght... well as long as it is not really bone dry... then I have to rely on my XXXL ... which I admit also once was "too" much.
But what I do not understand is:
When you talk about bone dry lanes... where is the oil? You can'T tell me it has been soaked up by houseballs or reactives... at least here I see on "much used" lanbes a good carrydown my XXXL just can not handle then... strange but that is how I see it.
well... everyone has a point of view.
Mine is that dry lanes are perfect to learn that reaction and get used to that conditions and learn a weaker release.
But I see the point that bowling on those conditions can enbd up in learning bad habits and falling off your A-game
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