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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: abrown on April 15, 2008, 01:08:26 PM

Title: dual angle layout
Post by: abrown on April 15, 2008, 01:08:26 PM
what exactly is the benefits of this layout I've ben drilling for a year now and have started to try more non typical layouts on balls for myself and was considering trying this
Title: Re: dual angle layout
Post by: Ahhbach on April 15, 2008, 09:27:41 PM
I think it is more a different way to layout your ball.  I have read Mo Pinel's article on the subject and it seemed interesting.

Ahh
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Title: Re: dual angle layout
Post by: Dyno-Joe on April 15, 2008, 09:39:56 PM
The dual angle layout technique is just a another way to lay out a bowling ball. It is a better way to find out what you want out of a bowling ball. It just is a more defined way of getting the ball reaction you want.
Title: Re: dual angle layout
Post by: smer on April 15, 2008, 10:26:53 PM
it might be an easier way to drill and compare bowling balls. if you want ball A to have one type of reaction and ball B to have a different reaction you just change the angles. i tried it on a couple of balls and it will work. you still need to know the bowlers pap. and now instead of saying i put the pin above or below the fingers , i can say the drilling angle is 35deg with a 3" pin,(or whatever deg. angle and pin length you use). is it better? i do not know. pin and cg still wound up in the same places as if i had used the " old way " to lay out the balls. like i said, only used it a couple of times. hope this helps a little.
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Title: Re: dual angle layout
Post by: strikealot on April 16, 2008, 07:11:56 AM
http://www.morichbowling.com/MosCorner/DualAngleSeminar/DualAngleSeminar.htm
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Title: Re: dual angle layout
Post by: n00dlejester on April 16, 2008, 07:38:44 AM
I have an ignorant question or two.

1) The closer a pin is to a bowler's VAL, is has more movement in the backend, correct?

2) What would happen to a drill where the pin is beyond a bowler's VAL?  I have an old ball I had label drilled before I got real serious into bowling, and the distance from pin to CG was enormous and it's easily past my VAL. Looks sort of like this:
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----oo-----
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----o------

3) Assuming that question 1 is true, would this drill be possible?  It's probably really similar to a RICO drill, just modified:  put the pin in a spot that's equidistant from the VAL if you were to draw the VAL completely around a bowling ball.  Now that I think about it, depending on PAP it's probably nothing like a RICO drill.  But would that drill create the smoothest reaction possible for a ball?
Title: Re: dual angle layout
Post by: khamûl on April 16, 2008, 08:47:32 PM
quote:
have an ignorant question or two.

1) The closer a pin is to a bowler's VAL, is has more movement in the backend, correct?

2) What would happen to a drill where the pin is beyond a bowler's VAL? I have an old ball I had label drilled before I got real serious into bowling, and the distance from pin to CG was enormous and it's easily past my VAL.

3) Assuming that question 1 is true, would this drill be possible? It's probably really similar to a RICO drill, just modified: put the pin in a spot that's equidistant from the VAL if you were to draw the VAL completely around a bowling ball. Now that I think about it, depending on PAP it's probably nothing like a RICO drill. But would that drill create the smoothest reaction possible for a ball?
 


one... the pin placement in relation to the val effects the amount of time the ball takes to transistion from skid to roll.

two... usually this will raise the narrow points of the bowtie in the track flare that the migration is towards the gripping holes instead of away from them.

three... the shape of the reaction is more forward off the spot (like rico) the further you go past the val.  the issue is the possible noise downlane.

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