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jbuzz31

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Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« on: October 25, 2008, 01:53:11 AM »
i think bowlers should be banned from putting easy slide on there shoes. while it may help them it creates hell for others. whenever i bowl against a team that has a bowler(s) that puts easy slide on there shoe, it inevitably ends up on the approach ,and at some point in the night mid-way through my approach ill slip on the offending powder and nearly fall on my face. same thing with other people ive seen. Last night one of the people on my team actually ended up falling and twisting there ankle because of said easy slide on the lane. i mean seriously people, its a safety issue. Am i the only one who sees this? anyways
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 09:57:05 AM »
It is illegal to put it on your shoe to bowl.  You can put it on your hand at a table and rub your shoe so there for no excesse to get all over the lane.  If they are putting it on right there at the lane this causes it to get everywhere.  I would have to say something to them about it.
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2008, 09:58:31 AM »
If I am not mistaken you are not allowed to put easyslide or a foreign subsatance in your slide sole for that exact reason.
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2008, 10:03:42 AM »
i wish people who have trouble sliding would invest in a pair of top quality bowling shoes......it would make bowling better for everyone.

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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2008, 10:10:29 AM »
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It is illegal to put it on your shoe to bowl.  



No, it's illegal, rude and inconsiderate and stupid to get it on the approach where it affects others.

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You can put it on your hand at a table and rub your shoe so there for no excesse to get all over the lane.  If they are putting it on right there at the lane this causes it to get everywhere.  I would have to say something to them about it.
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You should rub it on and into your shoe leather after raise the nap. knock off the residue and wipe it off.

If they get it on the approach, you can legally and should legally have the president or sargeant-at-arms warn them to not do it. 2nd offense (or discretion of the president) can have them, I believe, forfeit the game. It is officially interfering with the other team's game.
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2008, 10:13:34 AM »
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i wish people who have trouble sliding would invest in a pair of top quality bowling shoes......it would make bowling better for everyone.


Greg,

This is not necesarily the solution. I have teflon slides for my Linds Exxxtra's and at one BTM tourney many years ago I still stopped dead at the foul line and almost seriously hurt myself. There is no excuse for that.

I found a way around that at that time, and since then I have another personal solution. BUT the real solution is to have the house take care of the approaches the right way. There is no excuse for a manager or proprietor NOT to take of the approaches.

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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2008, 10:31:43 AM »
This doesn't mean there is anthing wrong with the approaches.  I have seen people go to the bathroom with out shoe covers, walk outside or to the snack bar.  And depending on the approaches some can be tacky depending on humidity.  It isn't the Center's fault some people are stupid and don't know how to treat there shoes and use ez slide properly.

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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2008, 11:28:13 AM »
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This doesn't mean there is anthing wrong with the approaches.  I have seen people go to the bathroom with out shoe covers, walk outside or to the snack bar.  And depending on the approaches some can be tacky depending on humidity.  It isn't the Center's fault some people are stupid and don't know how to treat there shoes and use ez slide properly.


There is that also. It happens. Some people have little common sense or never realize what they do JUST MAY affect others.

Mostly, locally, it seems to be the center's fault.

One of our big local centers has synthetic approaches. FOr years they took excellent care of them. Never a problem by anyone. Barely slightly more tacky when it was humid. Last 2 years, they hardly sweep up the garbage open and/or drunk bowlers leave behind, from one day to the next. Major problens with the approaches. Middle of the approach at the foulline is slippery, yet the first 5 boards on the left and the right are both tacky, some making you stop dead!

Oh, as as proof, (this center is Brunswick Zone Carolier, where they hold the US Open every year.) Wes Mallott took a header over the foul line last year, while trying to make a 10 pin. The exact spot where most of us stick, every day and eveyr night, tring to make a 10 pin.

The first 6 years or so after they put in synthetic approaches and lanes there was hardly any problems at all. I suppose it has somehting to do with the cutbacks by Brunswick. Probably affects the maintenance budgets at all centers.
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2008, 11:34:06 AM »
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2008, 11:36:51 AM »
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If I am not mistaken you are not allowed to put easyslide or a foreign subsatance in your slide sole for that exact reason.




really?  i didnt realize it was.  

so next time this happens the other team can get in trouble if i report them?
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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2008, 11:38:04 AM »
I received an email the other day from someone that saw one of my post.  She asked if it is illegal to use EZ Slide on your shoes then why do they sell it.  EZ Slide is a very good product if used properly.  The problem is that most of the time it is not.  Many people just pat it on their shoes and walk right up to bowl leaving residue all over the place.  Some people even get very defensive about it's use.  Here is USBC's reply.

Rule 12 - Approaches Must Not Be Defaced

The application of any foreign substance on any part of the approach that detracts from the possibility of other players having normal conditions is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to talcum powder, pumice and resin on shoes, and/or soft rubber soles or heels that rub off on the approach.

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One of the bowlers is having a difficult time sliding on the approach and applies a commercial product purchased at the center pro shop to the bottom of his/her shoes. The product is designed to help a bowler slide. The secretary says she has received a complaint from the opposing team and notifies the individual to stop using the substance or the game will be forfeited. Can an officer tell a bowler to stop using the substance and declare the game forfeited?

Commercial products, talcum powder or any substance applied to the shoe or approach could be in violation of Rule 12. If a league participant uses a substance and somebody complains that it prohibits him/her from having normal conditions, the league officer should require the individual to immediately stop his/her action. If the individual refuses, his/her games are subject to forfeiture.

The lady went on to say that she thought the people were complaining just because they were losing.  There really is a rule and EZ Slide most of the time is not used correctly.

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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 11:47:37 AM »
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This doesn't mean there is anthing wrong with the approaches.  I have seen people go to the bathroom with out shoe covers, walk outside or to the snack bar.  And depending on the approaches some can be tacky depending on humidity.  It isn't the Center's fault some people are stupid and don't know how to treat there shoes and use ez slide properly.


There is that also. It happens. Some people have little common sense or never realize what they do JUST MAY affect others.

Mostly, locally, it seems to be the center's fault.

One of our big local centers has synthetic approaches. FOr years they took excellent care of them. Never a problem by anyone. Barely slightly more tacky when it was humid. Last 2 years, they hardly sweep up the garbage open and/or drunk bowlers leave behind, from one day to the next. Major problens with the approaches. Middle of the approach at the foulline is slippery, yet the first 5 boards on the left and the right are both tacky, some making you stop dead!

Oh, as as proof, (this center is Brunswick Zone Carolier, where they hold the US Open every year.) Wes Mallott took a header over the foul line last year, while trying to make a 10 pin. The exact spot where most of us stick, every day and eveyr night, tring to make a 10 pin.

The first 6 years or so after they put in synthetic approaches and lanes there was hardly any problems at all. I suppose it has somehting to do with the cutbacks by Brunswick. Probably affects the maintenance budgets at all centers.
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I see your point I tend to bowl at individualy owned centers and this may be part of why I say I don't see the maintenence issues with the approaches that you do.  It doesn't make sense to me why they would get neglected it is just as important to have "clean" approaches as it is to have properly maintained lanes.  And it is cheaper.  I would say that would be neglect versus cutbacks imo.  Charlest your post brings a question to mind, would you say that independant houses are maintained better than those of the franchise variety.

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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2008, 12:32:31 PM »
Clean approaches???  Ever smell approach cleaner???  


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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 12:34:57 PM »
It is a double sided sword really. A new center had all kinds of problems a couple of years ago because the approaches were new. Lots of bowlers were sticking and one lady senior fell and broke her wrist. Well here comes the baby powder. This is the worst thing that can be used IMO. I have slipped more times on powder than easy slide. I have seen bowlers sift powder on the floor and step in the powder then bowl. I don't mind telling them or my team to quit using that crap because it is banned. Sometimes the center will send someone
down to clean the approaches if they are sticking and they make it worse than before. One of my pet peeves is the bowler that comes in out of the rain or snow and brings puddles with them to the bowling area. We all know what happens next. After saying all of this I have in my bag extra soles and a bag of easy slide just in case. You have to do what you got to do to keep from breaking you neck because of others.

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Re: Easy Slide Should Be Banned
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2008, 01:02:31 PM »
Speaking of Brunswick Zone Carolier, I was there recently for a couple of JBTs and after the first shot or two I had no problems with the approaches.