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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: AlonzoHarris on September 10, 2016, 12:46:24 PM

Title: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 10, 2016, 12:46:24 PM
The Ebonite Blue Wolf. Looks like an Asym Solid. I'm trying to help my buddy figure out what ball in today's lineup from any manufacturer would be a good replacement for his very very aging Blue Wolf. He loves how smooth, heavy rolling, and predictable it is. It's in that range where he can play 15 out to 10 on wood and up 10 on synthetics and carry for all 3 games of league. He throws around 15 mph with little tilt, more end over end, and about 30 degrees of rotation.

He doesn't buy a lot of balls as you can tell he's still rocking this oldie so more middle of the road versatile ball is key. He still manages to average 200 on both wood and synthetic house shots with this ball and a Brunswick Power Groove Urethane for spares.

Any thoughts on a replacement are welcomed as I'm trying to help him out. Currently looking at the Hammer Dark Legend. I figured a MH oil Hybrid Asym would be a smooth hop.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: Impending Doom on September 10, 2016, 01:23:52 PM
900 Global Special Ops with a bit of surface is a good midline assym.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: charlest on September 10, 2016, 02:09:39 PM
900 Global Special Ops with a bit of surface is a good midline assym.

Are you sure?
I had a Blue Wolf. It was a strong (then), big hooking, solid handling, true medium-heavy to heavy oil ball, with a strictly non-flippy backend.
I think the Black Ops has a much stronger backend than the BW did, no less the Special Ops.

I'd guess balls like the Swerve, the Forza, Gamebreaker II Phenom and the Critical were closer to what the Blue Wolf might do today.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: Brandon Riley on September 10, 2016, 02:21:42 PM
That's a tough one because the modern covers are just so much stronger and more responsive downlane, particularly the high end releases.  I'd look into something rollier in the midrange like the Vintage Danger Zone or the Xeno
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: Impending Doom on September 10, 2016, 03:04:52 PM
I didn't want to ball up too much!
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: Dave81644 on September 10, 2016, 06:13:54 PM
This was a 2 piece asymmetrical ball with medium RG and high diff
sanded to 600 grit(I'm not 100% of the surface grit) and was intended for heavy oil.

to have something similar to that in today's modern equipment isn't very easy to compare as stated above.
A medium/medium strong piece with a good price that just came out would be the GB2 phenom.
A great predictable piece that will handle some oil
check this out $115.00 bucks
http://www.bowlersmart.com/ebonite-game-breaker-2-phenom-bowling-ball
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 11, 2016, 03:16:01 PM
Considering its age and 100's of games on it, would it be safe to assume it's more of a Medium oil ball by today's standards?
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: charlest on September 11, 2016, 03:21:21 PM
Considering its age and 100's of games on it, would it be safe to assume it's more of a Medium oil ball by today's standards?

It depends on how much maintenance the owner does to it. Heck, if it's oil soaked and worn enough it could be a light oil ball by now. If he keeps the surface fresh and does oil maintenance on it, it should still handle medium heavy oil for the average revs, average ball speed bowler. It had a medium strength cover with a super strength core.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 11, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Considering its age and 100's of games on it, would it be safe to assume it's more of a Medium oil ball by today's standards?

It depends on how much maintenance the owner does to it. Heck, if it's oil soaked and worn enough it could be a light oil ball by now. If he keeps the surface fresh and does oil maintenance on it, it should still handle medium heavy oil for the average revs, average ball speed bowler. It had a medium strength cover with a super strength core.

He wipes it off but does not use any cleaner on it, resurfaced, or de-oiled.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: Impending Doom on September 11, 2016, 07:09:38 PM
Then it's middle of the road at best. My suggestion still stands.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: Dave81644 on September 11, 2016, 07:10:55 PM
So does mine.....
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 11, 2016, 08:04:08 PM
Thanks for the suggestions folks!
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: CoorZero on September 11, 2016, 08:05:59 PM
The Legion Solid might be a good choice too. Same goes for the Raw Urge.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: ignitebowling on September 11, 2016, 08:25:38 PM
By replacement are you wanting the ball to roll like the Blue Wolf currently does?

If that is the case I'd look at something in the mid performance range that in most brands is a symmetric core ball. Adjust surface as needed.

Ebi GB2 series,  Columbia Side swipe/ delirium line,  Brunswick all purpose series,  Storm Thunder series etc.

Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: AlonzoHarris on September 11, 2016, 08:38:23 PM
By replacement are you wanting the ball to roll like the Blue Wolf currently does?

If that is the case I'd look at something in the mid performance range that in most brands is a symmetric core ball. Adjust surface as needed.

Ebi GB2 series,  Columbia Side swipe/ delirium line,  Brunswick all purpose series,  Storm Thunder series etc.

Thanks Ignite. Yes he's looking for a modern ball to roll like his BW rolls currently.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: ignitebowling on September 11, 2016, 09:02:33 PM
I think the coverstock strength in the mid performance range will be more then plenty. Easy to make surface adjustments from there as needed. Lot of great choices out there.
Title: Re: Ebonite Blue Wolf Replacement
Post by: spmcgivern on September 12, 2016, 07:48:10 AM
By replacement are you wanting the ball to roll like the Blue Wolf currently does?

If that is the case I'd look at something in the mid performance range that in most brands is a symmetric core ball. Adjust surface as needed.

Ebi GB2 series,  Columbia Side swipe/ delirium line,  Brunswick all purpose series,  Storm Thunder series etc.



ignite, that is the first question I always ask when someone wants to replace an aging ball.  Based on what has been said, I will be that Motiv guy and suggest the Venom Shock.  Great all around ball and even rolling with surface.