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Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« on: June 14, 2020, 11:45:46 AM »
It's been stewing in my head...

Do you guys think the San Antonio plant or even hopkinsville may eventually reopen under a new name?

900 did it when c300 was sold way back when...


I think bowling is in a different spot going forward and it's not likely but 900 was big regionally...

Thoughts?
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Re: Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2020, 06:54:34 PM »
I heard there is a “Hopkinsville” line in the Mexico plant.
The equipment is one thing, the chemicals Hopkinsville used for the covers, can that be replicated outside the USA?
That’s the challenge.
I’m not sure who all went to Brunswick, I’m sure some did, but others did not and we will see how that shakes out in the future. 
I’m still a made in USA guy whenever possible so I’ll throw all the Hopkinsville equipment until it’s wore out.

If you want to be a Made in USA guy, I’m not going to argue about it. Wouldn’t matter anyway.

But what does “can [Hopkinsville chemicals] be replicated outside of the USA” mean? I understand that they might not be able to replicate Hopkinsville exactly with different suppliers, but what does that have to do with their location?


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Re: Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2020, 08:12:55 PM »
I heard there is a “Hopkinsville” line in the Mexico plant.
The equipment is one thing, the chemicals Hopkinsville used for the covers, can that be replicated outside the USA?
That’s the challenge.
I’m not sure who all went to Brunswick, I’m sure some did, but others did not and we will see how that shakes out in the future. 
I’m still a made in USA guy whenever possible so I’ll throw all the Hopkinsville equipment until it’s wore out.

If you want to be a Made in USA guy, I’m not going to argue about it. Wouldn’t matter anyway.

But what does “can [Hopkinsville chemicals] be replicated outside of the USA” mean? I understand that they might not be able to replicate Hopkinsville exactly with different suppliers, but what does that have to do with their location?

I tend to think about it like this, and let's use pharmaceuticals as an analogy. A particular vaccine that is used to treat a sickness is readily available and distributed in a country, or let's even say worldwide, and it is cheap and easy to access, to the point that anyone can go get vaccinated for cheap. However, in the US, it costs 10 to 25 times as much. Why? because while a particular company is US based, it it owns the patent to that vaccine, which prevents it from being reproduced cheaply. That in turn makes the availability of it more scarce, which drives up the prices. That's why some vaccines are easier to get outside the country than inside.

Well, let's reverse that. If some chemicals that EBI uses to make covers are patented by another company in that given country, that would make it harder for them to use their formulas to create that cover, even though it was easily able to be made here.

In short, the issue of trademarks and patents could cause the issue here, where Brunswick/EBI may not be able to recreate those chemicals for those covers due to patent infringement in the country where the plant is located.

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Re: Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2020, 08:53:57 PM »
So wouldn't Brunswick be the owner of those patents now? Since they bought the ENTIRE company, I'm betting they do. If not the patent, then at least the contracts for the patent.
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Re: Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2020, 12:46:30 PM »
So wouldn't Brunswick be the owner of those patents now? Since they bought the ENTIRE company, I'm betting they do. If not the patent, then at least the contracts for the patent.

They could be the owner of the patents in ONE country, but not in the other. That is the issue.

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Re: Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2020, 01:54:27 PM »
One uses Bayer one used BASF.  Id assume if you want BASF reaction you need BASF product.
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Re: Empty manufacturing Warehouses...
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2020, 09:54:40 PM »
IT is always fun to see when people speculate, spout off without ever verifying the information you are hearing. Gets the facts first, then you will not appear to be ignorant.


This is probably the best thread on here in the past few months.

My initial hopes were for a third coming of c300/900.
"Made in San Antonio" balls have been pretty good for me, whatever the reasons.

Same. Been a happy guy for a long time
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