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Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« on: January 11, 2014, 03:01:50 PM »
For the second time in two months, Mike Aleshire of Port Charlotte, Fla., deliberately "threw off" (after 11 straight strikes) and rolled 293 in an attempt to join another area bowler (Kent Wagner) by rolling every score from 290 to 300. The second item in this column tells about Aleshire's most-recent "effort."

http://www.examiner.com/article/creutz-fires-803-series-at-bowland-port-charlotte-aleshire-shuns-300-for-a-293?cid=db_articles

 

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #91 on: April 03, 2015, 04:54:42 PM »
Aloarjr810,
     You are correct, and that is one of the reasons I said I don't consider it sandbagging. I was only commenting how other might say such a thing because he is deliberately trying to get less then he could.
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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #92 on: April 03, 2015, 04:58:57 PM »
His game, do with it as he wishes., posting USBC rules is a waste of your time as USBC could care less after they receive their monies from you.
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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #93 on: April 03, 2015, 05:08:45 PM »
Mr Aleshire,
      I don't consider it sandbagging, was only mentioning why is some might, even with your high average.

      You say you the awards aren't the reason, but you again bring them up in your reply. When the awards were 1 per season, I still tried to bowl a 300 every time I could, it didn't matter if it was the first, second, or tenth (not that I ever had that many in 1 season, lol). Same would go for now. You seem to make a big deal of this attempt, yet you say you haven't thrown off at all this year. If this feat is so important, why have you not attempted it this year? Now maybe it is because each time, those extra pins were needed as you said, but I am curious as to why you have decided to pursue your feat. What do you get for bowling as many 300's as you can you ask? Pride, enjoyment of knowing for at least one game you acheived the maximum score in our sport, self-statisfaction for completing something many in our sport haven't...the list goes on and on. What do you get for trying to throw off?

    You have every right to do this. I am just trying to understand the mindset that says, i'd rather try to achieve a novelty, rather then achieve perfection. I just don't see it. As a bowler, I try to throw the best shot I can every time, regardless of whether that means I sh0ot 100, 200, or 300.




Jorge300,

Yes i agree some people as yourself will say its sandbagging or not trying to the best i can every time out. I still try and bowl as many 300s as possibly for example this year i have not  thrown off at all.  To answer some of your questions. No i would not throw off if i had the front 11 the first game nor would i throw off if it cost my team the game. Yes a 300 game means a lot to me but it doesn't hold the weight it use to. As you said 20 years ago 300 meant something. No i don't only roll a 300 for the award it's to be the best as you said. Not trying to sound like a ass on this but the fact is now with one honor score a life time why not try and do something different? what do you get for bowling as many 300s as you can? Yes, sandbagging is doing worse then what you can to receive more handicap. So if a person as myself who averages 240+ and doesn't receive handicap how can you call it sandbagging? Hope i have answered your questions.

MI 2 AZ,

there has been 1 person as i know of in the state of Florida to ever bowl all the 290s.

Some or most people will not agree with this I understand that 100%. Not everyone has to agree or understand its just something I as a bowler I want to do. just like everyone wants to bowl 900 which is the ultimate goal for evey bowler.

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #94 on: April 03, 2015, 05:36:18 PM »
It may not be sandbagging in the league you shot the score, but who is to say the average from that league isn't used for a handicapped or classified event.

Mr. Aleshire may not take advantage of the situation, but an outsider looking in may see the opportunity to do so.  That is where some people get the "sandbagging" notion.

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #95 on: April 03, 2015, 07:06:44 PM »
"But you won't be the first, so what real significance is it?"
Ok "bashing" is a strong term. I admit to that. But to say that there is no significance to a person's personal goal? If you said that to me personally, I would be pissed off.

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2015, 07:28:11 AM »
His game, do with it as he wishes., posting USBC rules is a waste of your time as USBC could care less after they receive their monies from you.

Good point and agreed.  Some of these posters want to just argue for the sake of arguing over nothing. ::)

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #97 on: April 04, 2015, 09:32:09 AM »
Dude is averaging 232 and 237. No matter where he goes, he's gonna be scratch. I call baloney on the bagging.

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2015, 10:22:00 AM »
For a bolwer of that average and I am assuming high skill level, it is something to do for sport.  Something that it would appear he has many more chances to attempt to get those scores than the average bowler.  All the negative comments is just bowlers proving that nobody bashes bowling/bowlers as much as other bowlers.   :o   
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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #99 on: April 04, 2015, 10:58:41 AM »
His game, do with it as he wishes., posting USBC rules is a waste of your time as USBC could care less after they receive their monies from you.

Yes, it is his game to do with as he wishes and posting the rules as a part of this discussion may be a waste of time (Just as most posts in internet forums are a waste time.) but it was my time to waste.

That the USBC could care less, doesn't matter. It's the bowlers that agreed to play under a set of rules that have to care and enforce those rules.

The point is kind of moot since no one filed a complaint, because they either didn't think he broke the rules or they didn't care or didn't want to get involved.

Did he sandbag? No.

All the negative comments is just bowlers proving that nobody bashes bowling/bowlers as much as other bowlers.   :o   

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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #100 on: April 04, 2015, 02:11:18 PM »
 
  Why was a year old thread resurrected?
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Re: Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293
« Reply #101 on: April 04, 2015, 02:42:20 PM »

  Why was a year old thread resurrected?

User Cr855 who claims to be Mike Aleshire the protagonist  of the story "Florida bowler shuns 300, "throws off" and rolls 293"

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