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Fall League meetings
« on: August 18, 2020, 06:06:38 AM »
I bowl in two fall/winter leagues and both had meetings in the last week.

In one house the league I'm in lost just one 5 person team so we are down from 10 teams to 9. There are no other leagues on that night. We are putting empty pairs between matches but 2 teams are  bowling each other on a pair.

In the other our league kept the same number of 3 person teams. But there was a
small women's league of 6 teams that folded and another 5 person league that went from 12 teams to 8. So I figure they lost about 45 bowlers on that night. Here we are bowling pairs next to another match. There is not enough room in the house to separate matches. 

Response to fall leagues has been better than I thought it might be and had feared a 30 to 40 percent drop off due to covid. I don't know how other houses and leagues are doing.

We are required to wear mask while not in the bowling area but not while bowling.

There was discussion on what to do if a bowler in the league came down with covid. Obviously the bowler infected needs to stay away until cleared medically. But what about the rest of the team? Do you allow the team to stop competing for a couple of weeks and make up at a later date?

Currently we are letting the rest of the team bowl if they want and if the team chooses to make up missed matches at a later date.

 

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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2020, 07:56:16 AM »
Having a team member test positive is definitely a worst-case scenario.  I believe the responsible thing to do would be for the rest of the team to stay out of the bowling center for 14 days, and then come back when they are certain they are clear.  Allowing them to make up the 2 missed sessions seems reasonable as long as it is done in a defined amount of time.

It also isn't just their teammates that need to worry about it.  It would be whoever was on a pair with them prior to their positive diagnosis.  That is a potential exposure that might also need to stay away for 14 days.  Hard to really say, though.

Leagues here are going full-tilt this Fall.  Full nightly schedules, no empty lanes between bowlers, masks optional, full food service, drinks, etc.  It is kind of scary, and in some cases in total opposition of state guidelines, but the bowling centers are doing their thing and relying predominantly on the bowlers to be the responsible parties and avoid risky behaviors.

I have been bowling on leagues now for the past 6 weeks, and wear a mask and stay away from others.  So far, so good.  We have made it longer without a positive case being reported by a bowler than I thought we would.
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2020, 09:44:40 AM »
Having a team member test positive is definitely a worst-case scenario.  I believe the responsible thing to do would be for the rest of the team to stay out of the bowling center for 14 days, and then come back when they are certain they are clear.  Allowing them to make up the 2 missed sessions seems reasonable as long as it is done in a defined amount of time.

It also isn't just their teammates that need to worry about it.  It would be whoever was on a pair with them prior to their positive diagnosis.  That is a potential exposure that might also need to stay away for 14 days.  Hard to really say, though.

Leagues here are going full-tilt this Fall.  Full nightly schedules, no empty lanes between bowlers, masks optional, full food service, drinks, etc.  It is kind of scary, and in some cases in total opposition of state guidelines, but the bowling centers are doing their thing and relying predominantly on the bowlers to be the responsible parties and avoid risky behaviors.

I have been bowling on leagues now for the past 6 weeks, and wear a mask and stay away from others.  So far, so good.  We have made it longer without a positive case being reported by a bowler than I thought we would.

It is kind of scary, yet you are still bowling in leagues now for the past 6 weeks.
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2020, 10:02:20 AM »
Having a team member test positive is definitely a worst-case scenario.  I believe the responsible thing to do would be for the rest of the team to stay out of the bowling center for 14 days, and then come back when they are certain they are clear.  Allowing them to make up the 2 missed sessions seems reasonable as long as it is done in a defined amount of time.

It also isn't just their teammates that need to worry about it.  It would be whoever was on a pair with them prior to their positive diagnosis.  That is a potential exposure that might also need to stay away for 14 days.  Hard to really say, though.

Leagues here are going full-tilt this Fall.  Full nightly schedules, no empty lanes between bowlers, masks optional, full food service, drinks, etc.  It is kind of scary, and in some cases in total opposition of state guidelines, but the bowling centers are doing their thing and relying predominantly on the bowlers to be the responsible parties and avoid risky behaviors.

I have been bowling on leagues now for the past 6 weeks, and wear a mask and stay away from others.  So far, so good.  We have made it longer without a positive case being reported by a bowler than I thought we would.

It is kind of scary, yet you are still bowling in leagues now for the past 6 weeks.

Well, yes.  But at the same time it is nice to get out of the house for a couple of hours per week.  It is unnerving to see 70-80 bowlers, not socially distanced, hugging each other, giving each other five, and only 10% of them wearing masks.  It would be less scary if people would simply follow guidelines until everything blows over.

Between bowling and going to the grocery store once a week for essentials, I am only out of the house for 4 hours total each week.

Wear the mask, don't touch anyone, stand away from others as best as possible, don't touch your face/eyes/nose and keeps hands clean and you are going to most likely be OK.  However there is still that chance of someone coming in sick, and exposure occurring despite best efforts. 
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2020, 11:36:13 AM »
We only have an 8 lane house and it looks like we will not be starting league bowling for a good while around here, so my thought would be that we will not have a fall and winter league this year.... Bummer!!!

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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2020, 12:38:02 PM »
Bowl in two houses, and one they are pretty fast and loose with following guidelines and the other has one team per pair, with the opponent on the next pair.
Sadly most of my team on both leagues decided to not bowl this season.
Short of subbing going to be a quiet fall/winter for me in MN.

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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2020, 05:39:34 AM »
idea bowling center maybe do a pba style  one team bowl 2 frames ,then next team       and new usbc rules first bowler does not wait to bowl 2nd frame ect 

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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2020, 07:37:51 AM »
idea bowling center maybe do a pba style  one team bowl 2 frames ,then next team       and new usbc rules first bowler does not wait to bowl 2nd frame ect 

There is nothing in the rule book now that says the first bowler has to wait.  Rule 106b(2) allows for the next frame to begin before completion of the previous frame. 

106b. Order of Bowling
Unless the league rules allow each game or frame to be bowled on a different pair of lanes, members of competing teams shall successively, and in regular order, bowl one frame on one lane, and for the next frame alternate and use the other lane until five frames are bowled on each lane of the pair.
1. No changes can be made in the order of players after the start of a game.
2. When a team bowls against another team or alone, the next frame may be started prior to  completion of the previous frame, unless the league rules state otherwise.
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2020, 11:14:19 PM »
The idea that bowling is a dangerous potentially deadly activity is stupid beyond belief. People need to stop watching the fear porn on TV. Do they really believe that some virus magically knows when it is in a bowling alley and will then strike out randomly with deadly force?

Was at home depot a few weeks ago, left w/o buying items b/c the line was insanely long. No temperature check. No one worried about items on shelves being contaminated. Not much "social distancing" either.

Does this mean cv-19 knows when it is in a bowling alley and when it is in Home Depot.

Or maybe it knows when it is in a small business and to kill people then, but not to kill people when it may harm billionaires? Those rich people need more money! Throw poor people out of business! That is all i see here.

CV-19 always was and continue to be a fraud...

Bottom line is this - those who do not support their bowling alleys, are putting them out of business by abandoning them in time of desperate need. If someone wants bowling to remain, they should go and pay for the bowling alley to remain open.

If they are too scarred to bowl, then mail in a donation to your bowling alley, pay them as if you were in league, so they will be open if/when you ever feel it is ok to leave your home.
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2020, 10:19:00 AM »
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2020, 12:53:02 PM »
Our fall league starts tonite, 40+tms with 5 member, so over 200 bowlers. Alley follows the guidelines and we enforce when we can.

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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2020, 02:03:59 PM »
Our fall league starts tonite, 40+tms with 5 member, so over 200 bowlers. Alley follows the guidelines and we enforce when we can.

How are 200 bowlers maintaining the 6ft social distance?  Did the center make any changes to help out in that regard?  Just curious.  Our center went to a new layout for the seating behind the lanes, but it did nothing for social distancing.
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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2020, 12:45:28 PM »
We had our league meeting last night and with 34 teams & having to go to two shifts it was as acrimonious as this.

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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2020, 12:53:16 PM »
We had our league meeting last night and with 34 teams & having to go to two shifts it was as acrimonious as this.



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Re: Fall League meetings
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2020, 01:00:02 PM »
Our fall league starts tonite, 40+tms with 5 member, so over 200 bowlers. Alley follows the guidelines and we enforce when we can.
We had our first night last night, actually 38 tms of 5. Went smoothly. Seating was semi-distanced. Masks were enforced all times except to bowl and at tables only. Walking around we had to wear. Otherwise, went pretty well.

How are 200 bowlers maintaining the 6ft social distance?  Did the center make any changes to help out in that regard?  Just curious.  Our center went to a new layout for the seating behind the lanes, but it did nothing for social distancing.