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thewhiz

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Staying behind the ball
« on: August 26, 2016, 10:10:42 PM »
Been bowling for years and still have trouble staying behind the ball.  Would like to work the ball from the inside like the pros do.  I think I am doing it But then take a video and nope around the side.  Any tips or is it just practice practice practice.

 

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2016, 12:50:23 AM »
Use the John Jody ring finger lead method. It really works
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2016, 05:45:29 AM »
The John Jody method really works for me also.

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2016, 06:18:22 AM »
Oops, sorry. John Jowdy.  Phone likes to help too much.
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 06:28:14 AM »
One of the ideas that goes along with the "ring finger lead" concept is to keep your thumb on the 1:00 side, if the top of the ball is considered to be 12:00 on the clock.

Along with these, if you're doing them correctly, you will also keep keeping the flat part of your wrist facing towards the pins, as will the inside of your elbow.

When your hand is more on the side of the ball, it's as if your brain doesn't believe the ball will hook and is trying to help it by turning it. When this happens, you're ALMOST always turning the ball early, which hurts rather than helps.

"Standing at the foul line" drills practicing this can help you get the feel of what you want. Also, it might be easier to do this at home, rolling the ball into some pillows on the floor, with you, kneeling on your right knee with your left (slide) foot on the floor next to the left knee. (Reverse if left handed). At home, you can watch your hand as you release, getting a feel for what's happening, without worrying about people staring at you or your interfering with anyone else.
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2016, 06:55:56 AM »
It starts with your swing.  If your swing bumps out there is no chance of keeping your hand to the inside of the ball.

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2016, 08:25:45 AM »
Good point on the arm swing.  Also keeping your grip relaxed all the way through tha release is important.

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2016, 11:04:42 AM »
The ring finger lead is a good tip but frankly ,it never really worked for me. It caused me to roll up the back of the ball too much. Instead, I concentrate on keeping the pit of my elbow facing towards the pins. This way, I can alter my hand position to effect the type of rotation angle I need depending on the lane condition, but still keep my elbow from chicken winging. 

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 07:39:58 PM »
His span better be right. You can practice all you want but if the span is wrong,  it is not going to work.

Also.

Look on youtube for "modern release". There is some great slow motion video of the best bowlers in the world.

And finally, this is not going to happen over night. You are trying to teach your muscles a new motion. Old habits are hard to break. It is going to take time. Keep up with the video footage. I know so many people that think they stay behind the ball and they don't. The playback doesn't lie.


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