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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: xrayjay on October 02, 2016, 05:23:05 PM

Title: Filler
Post by: xrayjay on October 02, 2016, 05:23:05 PM
Will big companies go away from using Fillers?

I have a few balls from lane masters and I love they way they hit. They carry my off hits much better than my big name brand balls. Just the sound of these hits is crushing lol. Also I wonder if this is the reason why these balls come out dry from the NuBall.

I'm guessing fillers are cheaper? Or as the PSO states, lane masters dull up his drill bits faster than other brands.
Title: Re: Filler
Post by: tkkshop on October 02, 2016, 06:06:33 PM
The HyRoad does not have filler. You're just seeing a company use "no filler" as a marketing tool. They aren't reinventing the ball. Just trying to move more product.
Title: Re: Filler
Post by: ignitebowling on October 02, 2016, 06:28:16 PM
Quantum was the first to go to filler. It enabled them to use one core for several weights. This obviously changed the industry for years to come.

If you plan on making a ball in only 3 weights it maybe an okay idea. If it's a ball being made from 10 to 16lbs maybe not.
Title: Re: Filler
Post by: xrayjay on October 02, 2016, 08:51:35 PM
How do they use filler or no filler as a marketing tool? Prolly 80% of the American bowlers don't have a clue. I was just wondering why fillers became a norm, and is it one factor why balls crack and soak up oil faster?

Title: Re: Filler
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on October 02, 2016, 09:08:19 PM

There are many factors as to why, or not, to use filler material.  First off, it would be underestimation to assume that all "filler" material is bad.  When used properly it allows for more options with core dynamics.  Cores can be tweaked with different densities and sizes if the fill material weighs less than cover material.   

There are probably advantages on both sides of the equation.  If more cover material is on every ball it should be more durable, but there will be a certain amount of trade off because perhaps the company can only produce 14, 15, and 16 lb. balls, shrinking the marketplace for such ball.

There are no absolutes.  What works well for Bowler A may not be best for Bowler B.  It's another "arrow in your quiver" to have a variety of equipment.
Title: Re: Filler
Post by: trash heap on October 04, 2016, 05:36:42 PM
My opinion is costs. I wouldn't be surprised that when filler was used, it was actually cheaper to make balls. Now they have probably found a way today that can make a ball without the filler and it cost less (versus with the filler).



Title: Re: Filler
Post by: ignitebowling on October 04, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
My opinion is costs. I wouldn't be surprised that when filler was used, it was actually cheaper to make balls. Now they have probably found a way today that can make a ball without the filler and it cost less (versus with the filler).

Filler allows manufactures to use one core across several ball weights. Without it they have to use a different core for each weight. Notice in the Quantums how much the core designs is changed from ball to ball. 14lbs isn't even a mushroom core. Also notice the weights available are 14-16 only

Compare this to Hammer in the urethane releases. The Blue and Burgandy Urethane Hammers with filler are selling online for around $86 shipped. Both are available in 10 to16lbs.
 
Now the black Hammer and the new purple pearl are $126 shipped online. They are also only available in 14-16lbs with the 14lb core being different from the 15 and 16 like the Quantums.

Filler changed the manufacturing and design process for manufactures, which would makes sense why so many went to it.