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jwcorn01

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plug dye
« on: September 29, 2009, 07:01:23 AM »
What dye do you use for your ball plug? I bought the polyurethane easy-strike plug that dries white. I had some dye that I used with a different resin plug but when combined with this new plug it causes a ridiculous amount of bubbles/air traps.

*I see that they sell their own colorant, I was just wondering if there is something more commonly available that you use. I will likely end up buying theirs though, too bad shipping is as much as the product.

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 03:20:13 PM »
I use your regular acrylic paint (with the Ebonite ball plug) you can find at any craft store or even Wal-Mart.  Not sure how everyone feels about it, but it's only $0.47 a color and it's been working great!
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Smash49

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 05:30:52 PM »
Tech-line plug colors.  I have seen everything from model paint to food color dye.  I just buy the correct stuff and it's consistent.  A bottle last over a year in most cases and I don't have to worry if it will work or not.  I see a lot of guys making their own slugs.  If they are pro shops usually tech line is the best way to go.  I'd rather buy my slugs from Griploc and not worry about it.  Someone brings me a slug they made to be installed in their ball and I don't know where it came from it's not going to happen.  Last thing I need is a slug shatter in a ball or crack a ball because it doesn't fit right.  I understand trying to save a buck or two but that's nutz.  

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jwcorn01

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 04:11:56 PM »
food coloring is what I tried  It worked with a resin that took 4-6 hrs but the easy-strike begins curing in 15 minutes and is ready to drill in 2 hrs. Not enough time for all the bubbles to get out. I have has some luck with the dye concentrate that you can get at craft stores but only in small doses. Too much and it will not cure completely solid.
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Smash49

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 06:36:15 PM »
I don't know about the easy strike resin but if it drys and acts like quick plug it needs about 10 time the amount of dye as the normal Ebonite or Tech-line.  

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 06:51:50 AM »
Sounds like you are stirring it too fast, or too vigorously - that's the only way you are going to get bubbles in the mixture.

Try stirring it slower - you don't need to mix "fast and hard" to get a complete mixture, even for those that start to set quickly.

Also do a search, somebody asked a question about air bubbles a little while ago and there were a bunch of good tips - tapping the ball with a mallet to get the air bubbles to the top, using a lighter (or other heat source - light bulb works great) to get the air bubbles to rise to the top.

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2009, 08:14:26 AM »
I tried acrylic paint in the Wizard ball plug....

Lets just say... NOT PRETTY! plug expanded to 3X its amount with the air bubbles created.

DO NOT use anything waterbased in quick plugs... recipe for disaster.


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jwcorn01

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Re: plug dye
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 01:27:00 AM »
androoo I think that is what the food coloring did as well.
I considered that I might have been stirring too vigorously so I tried some a more gently approach but with similiar results. I think that this plug must require a specific kind of dye due to its quick curing nature.
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Re: plug dye
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 11:19:15 AM »
Apologies for my first reply.  I know the reaction you guys are talking about - had some stuff double or triple in size on me when I first started experimenting.  Not sure what I used as a tint, or maybe just got some water in it, but it expanded like that spray insulation!


With the quick plug stuff I've used: regular plug dye (ebonite color kit), urethane/resin dye and urethane/resin pigment.


The dye - http://www.dickblick.com/products/castincraft-transparent-dyes/

The pigment - http://www.dickblick.com/products/castincraft-opaque-pigments/

If you just need a few colors, that might be the way to go.

If you plug dries white, you might want to look at the Wizard color kit -
http://www.bowlingindex.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BI&Category_Code=PST&Product_Code=PL-UWCK - Wizard quick plug usually dries white or beige and is harder to tint correctly.  Not sure if their color kit is any different than a normal color kit.


I've also used some stuff I got from ebay - http://cgi.ebay.com/Pigments-For-Rubbers-And-Plastics-Red-1-oz-Container_W0QQitemZ110207421211QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19a8dfcb1b&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

It worked pretty well.  The jar makes it more difficult to accurately measure the drops, but it is pretty powerful.  You don't need much more than to dip a toothpick in and add to the mix.
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