Author Topic: Your thoughts on targeting break points? (Read 5842 times)

THEICEMAN · « **on:** March 06, 2007, 11:49:58 PM »

I have a question for the upper crust bowlers that read these forums. What are your thoughts on targeting the break point over arrows, etc? Reason I'm asking is this. On tough shots I tend to be able to throw the ball in the hole but I can't carry. I'm guessing because with trying to make the ball "fit" I'm not loose. Last year at Nationals I started to play with the idea of targeting the 43' break indicators rather than the arrows. I don't actually target the arrows either but about 5 feet beyond. I find it keeps me from setting it short. Anyway, I found it allowed me to make a much more loose or relaxed shot while also allowing some aggresiveness. What I decided to do was since I had three nights left, including last night before we head to Reno was to target the 43' break just to get really comfortable throwing at it. I felt like I threw well and was either right over the top or easily within a board to either side on all but a handful of shots. I know it isn't the same as a flatter pattern but one thing you do get on a house shot, especially playing deep, is you are in the middle puddle a lot longer than normal so the ball will squirt as well if you goose it. But the end result I'm trying to get here of being comfortable and relaxed targeting that dark indicator should only help on tougher pattern? The guys I bowl with noticed that the ball was much more consistant at the arrows than I normally am and asked what I was doing. I didn't have the handfull of misses in or out that I normally would during a league session that makes you kind of say WHOOPS!! Pretty much pegged 4th arrow all night. Thanks.

theiceman

THEICEMAN · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2007, 02:32:31 PM »

addik:
The thing with the board down the lane is I'm fortunate enough to bowl exclusively on Brunswick Proanvilhang. They have the 3 foot long dark boards at 10 and 15 at the break point. Believe me if you haven't seen them they stick out like a sore thumb. If you watched the tour Sunday they had them and PDW was the only one who had a board either side of it and could still hit the hole. Other guys, even if they where on top of it tended to have a different reaction depending on how much they grabed it. But as light as these lanes are, and the contrast of the brown they're tough to miss.

theiceman

DukeHarding · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2007, 03:10:54 PM »

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addik:
The thing with the board down the lane is I'm fortunate enough to bowl exclusively on Brunswick Proanvilhang. They have the 3 foot long dark boards at 10 and 15 at the break point. Believe me if you haven't seen them they stick out like a sore thumb. If you watched the tour Sunday they had them and PDW was the only one who had a board either side of it and could still hit the hole. Other guys, even if they where on top of it tended to have a different reaction depending on how much they grabed it. But as light as these lanes are, and the contrast of the brown they're tough to miss.

theiceman

iceman,

How do you target the BP if you don't have the downlane marker?
If I walk into a center that is not Proanvilane, I don't really want to shoe up, as I can't target the BP....
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myrddin97 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2007, 03:23:47 PM »

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Attempting to remove my foot from my mouth.

Edited on 3/7/2007 6:02 PM

DukeHarding · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2007, 04:20:49 PM »

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How do you target the BP if you don't have the downlane marker?
If I walk into a center that is not Proanvilane, I don't really want to shoe up, as I can't target the BP....

Did I really just read that? I just can't think of a response that I can put on these boards.

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charlest · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2007, 05:50:13 PM »

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I don't think I'm "upper crust", but here's my take. I target anywhere from the arrows to near the pins, depending on a couple of things: the need to get the ball downlane, thru the heads, before reacting and to free up my swing (as you said). Your comment about staying in the puddle longer is correct - that's why, as lanes dry out, I'll target deeper and deeper so as not to bump the dry too soon. In targeting deeper I find that I reach more toward the target which probably does a lot to keep the ball on line better.
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Sawuser · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2007, 06:05:53 PM »

I've been targeting strictly breakpoint for about 3 years now. Once the breakpoint has been established it's much easier to adjust body position to keep the shot in the pocket. I wear slightly tinted glasses to reduce lane glare & just focus on the area. I usually allow 2 boards on each side of my target, & at 40 to 45 feet, that's not that bad. Breakpoint targeting for me seems much more forgiving than targeting arrows. Another poster said something about if you hit the dry boards too early you can't get to the breakpoint. Well yeah! If you hit dry boards early, the breakpoint moves to where you hit the dry boards. You must stand left far enough & allow the oil to carry your ball to the actual breakpoint area. Anyway, works for me.
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BrianCRX90 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2007, 09:40:02 PM »

I don't know of one center in my area that have downmarkers. In fact, I've never bowled on one. Is Proanvil the only one that makes it? It's really not that big of a deal to have them. At most centers there is a differential between light and dark boards. That is all I need.

What is difficult to me is one center I know is 100% light wood and all 39 boards are the same color. I have to line up for example the second arrow and trail it 30-40 feet downlane

THEICEMAN · « **Reply #23 on:** March 08, 2007, 07:20:03 AM »

Thats pretty much what I do in centers without the indicators. I'll look at second arrow and trace it down to 40' or so and throw it there. Some, like Bowlero in Milwaukee have the overlays and the boards are lighter in groups which makes it easier to follow down lane. Like the second arrow is in the middle of a group of 3 lighter boards. But remember I'm only using this on tougher shots. For the most I'm normally targeting about 5 feet past the arrows on a normal house condition. The breakpoint targeting just seems to allow me to be more accurate where the ball turns to the pocket on the tougher patterns where you don't have 2 or 3 boards on either side of your mark.

theiceman

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