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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: stopncrank on February 22, 2013, 10:09:40 AM
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I wanted to bring this up, and see what the general consensus is among those here who have been bowling a long time.
Our sport has been analyzied through science forwards, backwards, sideways-you name it. Launch angles, axis rotation, swing planes, rule of 31, Dual angle system, pin-bufffer system, you name it, it has been studied. With that said, if a bowler gets completely caught up in all of this it can cause what I call information overload.
I cant tell you how many bowlers I see who carry this over into their game, to the point where they second guess everything...im throwing this ball but I wonder if the one in the bag 60x4.5x30 would be better with more tilt...I know you guys have probably been guilty of it as I have too. Alot of time I have to decompress and take a step back, alot more than Id like to admit I bowl better when I get out of my own way so to speak.
So with this being said, do you think the game has gotten too complicated? And if so, do you think it has something to do with the decline in participation over the last 10-15 years?
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I understand your point. And i think it is true at times. But I don't think that all the "information" is the culprit to the issue. I think the fact that you get tapped once and you lose high game is the issue. So you get tapped and you go running to the bag praying for that ball that can get you 12 in a row so you can win some money. I think if there were tougher conditions the over thinking wouldnt happen as much. At least in my case.
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Stop,
I think you are correct when it comes to performance. Every bowler at one time or another sits there and second guesses themselves and their choices. For a lot of bowlers, if they get out of their head and let their swing and release go and stop thinking about it, they get better results. But I don't think it is because of the information available. This has been happening for ages, it's the human in all of us causing this. Our brains are very complex machines and sometimes, we over complicate something that should be simple. In the past it might have been just should I be using resin or urethane, urethane or rubber, rubber or plastic, etc.
I also don't see this as the reason we are losing members. I, personally, think the reasons are multiple: There are way more things competing for time and money with today's youth. Soccer has taken off in the US, the old staples of football, baseball, etc. The declining economy makes every dollar more valuable and the decisions on how to spend it more complex. I think the proliferation of high scores with the easing of THS rules also contributed to this. It's not special to bowl a 300 anymore, or an 800 series. Scores have gone through the roof and these have become commonplace. If doing exceedingly well doesn't feel special, why do it. People still become excited to score a goal in soccer, to hit a homerun in baseball (or softball), or to score a TD in football. It still feels special. If every football game was 140 - 133, or every baseball game was 30-27, with everyone scoring TD's hitting HR's, then we might see a decline in those sports as well. I also think another reason is the stigma attached to bowling....the fat, beer drinking bowlers. Do to the fact that America as a whole is overweight, myself included, there is push to try to help our youth stay active. I think parents are pushing kids to sports that include more of a workout, like soccer, and away from bowling. If they want their kids to be healthier, then they have to run and play and do sports that include that. Again these are JMHO's, yours may differ.
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I think you are both on the right track. I admit when it comes to the "science" of bowling I do not know anything. I have been bowling for over 30 years. I just have never taking it that serious to understand everything. I bowl for fun and do well. Now there are people who think they know it all and they get in trouble due to not really knowing it. Then there are people who think that if they don't carry a shot they need to switch balls when maybe they don't need to do anything or just a slight adjustment would work. So that is why I think you are both on the right track.
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Hello,
I think many of general public believes bowlers are sloppy and drunk. Then they see Walter Ray bowl a 227 to win a tourney and think," Hmm I bowled a 220 once and I was half toasted.." Not to the extent of chess (which almost no one can grip fully) bowling suffers from some lack of knowledge also.
Think about it like this. I just heard this recently. "Baseball is boring...all they do is throw and swing...big deal."
My thoughts on baseball is this..Tying runner on first, but the pitcher has a great pick-off move. Will the pitcher have to pitch the slide step, or can he throw his usual high leg kick 98 mph heater to this .230 batting catcher. Will the batter bunt? Will they send in another pitcher? The outfield is certainly playing this guy to pull...can the runner score on a double? Why is the second baseman covering second....will the batter notice and try a late swing? The third baseman is playing in...maybe the batter will try to slap it by him......
Cav
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I don't think the game is too complicated. At a beginner's level, you really don't need to know much to improve. As you improve, there should be a noticeable difference in your knowledge base and how you apply it to your game. I would agree that scoring pace is really probably the reason for the decline in participation. As a solution, I would propose reconsidering the kinds of pins we use. Advanced bowling balls and lane oil both get a bad wrap for artificially inflating averages, but they are also responsible for the game having more dynamic today than in the past (even according to Carmen Salvino). Double void pins, however, don't really serve any purpose than to make scores higher. Eliminating those would add more meaning to the sport from the bottom levels all the way to the top.
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"Is the game too complicated?" I don't actually think complicated is the proper term for this question. I believe the term should've been CONVOLUTED.
con·vo·lut·ed
/ˈkänvəˌlo͞otid/
Adjective
(esp. of an argument, story, or sentence)
1. Extremely complex and difficult to follow.
2. Intricately folded, twisted, or coiled.
Bowling didn't need all the technological "advancements". When the aim of the "advancements" changed from improving the playing conditions, to an attempt to make the game "fair" for everyone, bowling lost sight of what it was, and began the transformation from the sport that it was, into the recreational activity that it is today.
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No it isn't too complicated. The science you talk of is aimed for the elite player. And sure....we all make bad decisions and second guess it. But so does every elite athlete.
Think of golf. They sit there in the fairway with a caddy to discuss an approach shot for 6-8 minutes sometimes. When it ends up 10 yards short do you think maybe they are kicking themselves for using a 9 iron instead of an 8 iron? They have a wide spectrum of lofts in wedges and drivers just as we have layouts in bowling.
Our science is relatively new is all. All of the major advancements have come in the last 20 years. Before that there was 100 years of bowling with very little changes in equipment (relative to what we see today)
Soon bowlers will catch up to the science more and have a better understanding of what their equipment is designed to do and when and where to use it. But for now it is only the elite players taking advantage of the minute technology while the average players simply are relying on the cover strength to get better.
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Bowling is only as complicated as you make it to be. You can play with a house ball, stand on the approach in your spot, hit 3rd arrow and hit the pocket, and leave a 10 pin. You can also grab a ball you have drilled pin over, thumb kicked out on a 20 deg angle, pin buffer of 1.5", lay the ball out over the middle arrow, hit the 6 board at 47 feet, and slam the pocket and leave a 10 pin. same result, just one is much more complex and complicated.
if you are finding the sport, or your equipment too complicated, take a step back. Tell your driller what you want to do with a ball, where it's comfortable to play, and let him set the ball up for you. After all, that's what you pay, in some cases, $50+ for. And if you're lucky, someone might be willing to give you small pointers, or major coaching along the way.
As far as decline of the sport, i feel it has to do with diverse spending options / demands, plus increased prices to bowl and get there. You walk into the average bowling center, the open bowling prices are atleast $3.75 a game. kinda hard to play for that frequently enough to gain enough interest to think about a league, if you don't play already
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Participation is because of fewer people with regular hour blue collar and white collar jobs, ONLY.
As to bowling and complication, on house shots if a person bowls in one house and the conditions are fairly similar each league weak, I doubt if a person needs more than 3 balls even if he is a ball hound.
As to tournaments and traveling....that is where many more are needed. It is interesting and thought provoking where and how to play the lanes.
REgards,
Luckylefty
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It is in no way more complicated. We are all more informed. Information is every where and it is a matter of what you know along with what you need to know. The vast majority of this information is not needed. It doesn't take the place of practice and ability to repeat and to adjust. The game is a lot simpler then it appears.
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It is in no way more complicated. We are all more informed. Information is every where and it is a matter of what you know along with what you need to know. The vast majority of this information is not needed. It doesn't take the place of practice and ability to repeat and to adjust. The game is a lot simpler then it appears.
Thank god somebody said it.
"The vast majority of this information is not needed. It doesn't take the place of practice and ability to repeat and to adjust. The game is a lot simpler then it appears."
Too many people overthink this "vast bank of knowledge". Grab your benchmark ball, throw it, read the reaction. Keep throwing it or move. Don't like to swing it that much? Grab your pearl, tighten up your angles and go straighter. Too much soup? Get your sanded oiler out and play the lanes the way the indicate you to.
But practicing and knowing how each ball will react with different releases is the key to scoring well. Knowing how to read what your ball is doing on the lanes is just as important.
The RG, differential, core type, etc. should go into consideration when buying your ball but it is superfluous out on the lane. Your skill is what will make you score, not a bunch of ball data.
BTW, only the most jaded of bowlers don't get a thrill from a 300 or 800. Those people that shoot honor scores regularly are not the type of bowlers that will quit the game. To say that the "proliferation" of 300's and 800's are a factor in the "decline" of bowling is patently wrong. Competition for people's time and money are the reasons for less participation in leagues. And let's' call a spade a spade, "decline in bowling really should read as "decline in leagues". More people are open bowling and moonglo bowling than ever before.
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I agree totally with the last two posts.
Consistency is the most important aspect in bowling.
Adjustment are second because if you can't repeat shots you can't adjust.
Started bowling in 1977 and still got my league champions Jr,s trophy.
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The game is too complicated, but so is every other game now. It's about numbers and intangibles, but at the same time people are still in the equation. The game is all about execution now, games are always more fun when intuition is a part of it. However, the single biggest factor in the loss of numbers as far as participation goes is the house shot. It's so easy it's no fun. People expect to get "perfect" games, and if they don't, it feels like a failed night. The better bowlers quit because all the sudden people who are terrible can score almost as well as they can. The better bowlers can stay within 1-2 boards all night, but a ring 10 or a stone 9 can lose them a game to somebody who can barely manage to stay within 5 or 6 boards. Average bowlers quit because they don't understand how they can shoot 170 one game and 240 the next just to go back down to 150. And the casual bowlers never really get into it because they see bowling as a joke. Some of the most casual bowlers have the best perspective about the game because they are unbiased. They look at a game with a rapidly declining member base, but honor score numbers are still going up? Bowling is turning into tic tac toe. It's zero fun because it's zero challenge, unless you want to travel or spend hundreds of dollars or both.
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The game is too complicated, but so is every other game now. It's about numbers and intangibles, but at the same time people are still in the equation. The game is all about execution now, games are always more fun when intuition is a part of it. However, the single biggest factor in the loss of numbers as far as participation goes is the house shot. It's so easy it's no fun. People expect to get "perfect" games, and if they don't, it feels like a failed night. The better bowlers quit because all the sudden people who are terrible can score almost as well as they can. The better bowlers can stay within 1-2 boards all night, but a ring 10 or a stone 9 can lose them a game to somebody who can barely manage to stay within 5 or 6 boards. Average bowlers quit because they don't understand how they can shoot 170 one game and 240 the next just to go back down to 150. And the casual bowlers never really get into it because they see bowling as a joke. Some of the most casual bowlers have the best perspective about the game because they are unbiased. They look at a game with a rapidly declining member base, but honor score numbers are still going up? Bowling is turning into tic tac toe. It's zero fun because it's zero challenge, unless you want to travel or spend hundreds of dollars or both.
People who have quit because the game is "too easy" probably make up 1% of the so-called "lost" bowlers. If you are saying they don't bowl in THS leagues and have moved on to tourneys and tougher pattern leagues, you would be partially correct. However, the bowlers you are really describing are the so-called great bowlers who don't have the stones to bowl in a scratch tourney or league thus giving the "lesser" bowler a chance to beat them with handicap. No matter what the shot is, somebody is going to carry a shot and win a match over a superior bowler. Curious as to how you answer this question; If two bowlers are bowling in a scratch tournament and a guy buries a pocket hit for a stone eight and his opponent goes brooklyn for a strike and wins the match, is the guy who got tapped going to quit? Your hypothesis has been discussed many times and found to be full of holes.
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The game is too complicated, but so is every other game now. It's about numbers and intangibles, but at the same time people are still in the equation. The game is all about execution now, games are always more fun when intuition is a part of it. However, the single biggest factor in the loss of numbers as far as participation goes is the house shot. It's so easy it's no fun. People expect to get "perfect" games, and if they don't, it feels like a failed night. The better bowlers quit because all the sudden people who are terrible can score almost as well as they can. The better bowlers can stay within 1-2 boards all night, but a ring 10 or a stone 9 can lose them a game to somebody who can barely manage to stay within 5 or 6 boards. Average bowlers quit because they don't understand how they can shoot 170 one game and 240 the next just to go back down to 150. And the casual bowlers never really get into it because they see bowling as a joke. Some of the most casual bowlers have the best perspective about the game because they are unbiased. They look at a game with a rapidly declining member base, but honor score numbers are still going up? Bowling is turning into tic tac toe. It's zero fun because it's zero challenge, unless you want to travel or spend hundreds of dollars or both.
People who have quit because the game is "too easy" probably make up 1% of the so-called "lost" bowlers. If you are saying they don't bowl in THS leagues and have moved on to tourneys and tougher pattern leagues, you would be partially correct. However, the bowlers you are really describing are the so-called great bowlers who don't have the stones to bowl in a scratch tourney or league thus giving the "lesser" bowler a chance to beat them with handicap. No matter what the shot is, somebody is going to carry a shot and win a match over a superior bowler. Curious as to how you answer this question; If two bowlers are bowling in a scratch tournament and a guy buries a pocket hit for a stone eight and his opponent goes brooklyn for a strike and wins the match, is the guy who got tapped going to quit? Your hypothesis has been discussed many times and found to be full of holes.
I have thought many times about practicing the Brooklyn pocket just for the demoralizing effect it would have on the right opponents
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I think that within the information age the game can get a little crazy at times. Drill it like this or like this but not like that. Use a hole here or here and now nevermind all that just put the pin here and the hole here. Don't drop your shoulder, no, drop your shoulder. Timing is relative to this but no, wait no it is relative to this, except for these people. Huh??? Ummm, the cg don't matter and neither do statics, unless you talk to these guys and then they do, okay :o. This ball is an asym but treat it like a sym, but I am gonna put a hole here, oh then dont treat it like a sym.........
Fuck it, put 3 holes in it I am going bowling.....
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The game is too complicated, but so is every other game now. It's about numbers and intangibles, but at the same time people are still in the equation. The game is all about execution now, games are always more fun when intuition is a part of it. However, the single biggest factor in the loss of numbers as far as participation goes is the house shot. It's so easy it's no fun. People expect to get "perfect" games, and if they don't, it feels like a failed night. The better bowlers quit because all the sudden people who are terrible can score almost as well as they can. The better bowlers can stay within 1-2 boards all night, but a ring 10 or a stone 9 can lose them a game to somebody who can barely manage to stay within 5 or 6 boards. Average bowlers quit because they don't understand how they can shoot 170 one game and 240 the next just to go back down to 150. And the casual bowlers never really get into it because they see bowling as a joke. Some of the most casual bowlers have the best perspective about the game because they are unbiased. They look at a game with a rapidly declining member base, but honor score numbers are still going up? Bowling is turning into tic tac toe. It's zero fun because it's zero challenge, unless you want to travel or spend hundreds of dollars or both.
People who have quit because the game is "too easy" probably make up 1% of the so-called "lost" bowlers. If you are saying they don't bowl in THS leagues and have moved on to tourneys and tougher pattern leagues, you would be partially correct. However, the bowlers you are really describing are the so-called great bowlers who don't have the stones to bowl in a scratch tourney or league thus giving the "lesser" bowler a chance to beat them with handicap. No matter what the shot is, somebody is going to carry a shot and win a match over a superior bowler. Curious as to how you answer this question; If two bowlers are bowling in a scratch tournament and a guy buries a pocket hit for a stone eight and his opponent goes brooklyn for a strike and wins the match, is the guy who got tapped going to quit? Your hypothesis has been discussed many times and found to be full of holes.
A lot of those things aren't offered in many areas of the country. In my area, we have very few scratch leagues, and even fewer that put down tough shots. PBA leagues are only offered in the summer for the die hards when no one is in a bowling alley anyway. Only tournaments around are on house shots, and other tournaments are too infrequent or too expensive. Why waste time bowling when they can play real sports? As for your question, it depends more on the lane pattern than the bowlers. I don't bowl many house shot tournaments because in addition to easy shots, there's handicap, they all end up being won by the best sandbaggers. Scratch leagues on house shots are a crapshoot, and really aren't a lot of fun, because all the bowlers are usually good enough that it boils down to 250s vs 260s, whoever carries that night wins, not necessarily who bowled better, but it's easier to take because you realize you'll get that trip 4 or kick 10 one night, and it all evens out, but it still doesn't feel "right." So instead of putting holes in my hypothesis, what is your opinion on the matter? The rise of averages and numbers of honor scores corresponds directly with the loss of membership, it's pure logic and mathematics. If it's not the main reason, it's at least a major contributing factor. And that is what the discussion is about, the loss of USBC members, I didn't necessarily mean these people quit bowling completely. You aren't staying on topic.
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The game is too complicated, but so is every other game now. It's about numbers and intangibles, but at the same time people are still in the equation. The game is all about execution now, games are always more fun when intuition is a part of it. However, the single biggest factor in the loss of numbers as far as participation goes is the house shot. It's so easy it's no fun. People expect to get "perfect" games, and if they don't, it feels like a failed night. The better bowlers quit because all the sudden people who are terrible can score almost as well as they can. The better bowlers can stay within 1-2 boards all night, but a ring 10 or a stone 9 can lose them a game to somebody who can barely manage to stay within 5 or 6 boards. Average bowlers quit because they don't understand how they can shoot 170 one game and 240 the next just to go back down to 150. And the casual bowlers never really get into it because they see bowling as a joke. Some of the most casual bowlers have the best perspective about the game because they are unbiased. They look at a game with a rapidly declining member base, but honor score numbers are still going up? Bowling is turning into tic tac toe. It's zero fun because it's zero challenge, unless you want to travel or spend hundreds of dollars or both.
Are you serious? Zero challenge? The person behind the ball still has to perform. Last week was the purest I had rolled the ball in a LONG time I shot 783. Last night I did not roll the ball well at all shot 615. Was it the lanes due to me shooting lower, was it the ball that caused me to shoot lower? Or was it the person behind the ball? My bet is the person behind the ball! Has ball technology made it easier? Yes it has. Lane bed and lane oil technology has not stayed at the current pace of the equipment we roll on them. Yes the sport shots that some places are putting out has slowed the pace down for those leagues. Has the THS made people stop bowling? I have not heard of a single person who has stopped bowling as a result of that. Due to the rapid rate of honor scores I have heard people stop bowling from that. Centers will put down a somewhat easy shot to get league bowlers. Now you may wonder why they do that. Where does most of their money come from? Their league bowlers. The more league bowlers they have the more money they make. I stopped bowling due to not having fun because of the people I was bowling with. Not due to the sport! Now that I am back in my hometown I am bowling again and slowly starting to enjoy it and getting back to looking at bowling full time. The sport is only as fun as YOU make it. The sport is as easy or as hard as YOU make. It is also all about luck. People don't think about that side of it. Luck plays a bigger role in our sport more so then what people think. Once the ball leaves your hand it is all luck on what happens! If you want to know why I have heard most people leaving the sport it is a toss up of $ and family time, families are involved in many other activities.
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The game is too complicated, but so is every other game now. It's about numbers and intangibles, but at the same time people are still in the equation. The game is all about execution now, games are always more fun when intuition is a part of it. However, the single biggest factor in the loss of numbers as far as participation goes is the house shot. It's so easy it's no fun. People expect to get "perfect" games, and if they don't, it feels like a failed night. The better bowlers quit because all the sudden people who are terrible can score almost as well as they can. The better bowlers can stay within 1-2 boards all night, but a ring 10 or a stone 9 can lose them a game to somebody who can barely manage to stay within 5 or 6 boards. Average bowlers quit because they don't understand how they can shoot 170 one game and 240 the next just to go back down to 150. And the casual bowlers never really get into it because they see bowling as a joke. Some of the most casual bowlers have the best perspective about the game because they are unbiased. They look at a game with a rapidly declining member base, but honor score numbers are still going up? Bowling is turning into tic tac toe. It's zero fun because it's zero challenge, unless you want to travel or spend hundreds of dollars or both.
Are you serious? Zero challenge? The person behind the ball still has to perform. Last week was the purest I had rolled the ball in a LONG time I shot 783. Last night I did not roll the ball well at all shot 615. Was it the lanes due to me shooting lower, was it the ball that caused me to shoot lower? Or was it the person behind the ball? My bet is the person behind the ball! Has ball technology made it easier? Yes it has. Lane bed and lane oil technology has not stayed at the current pace of the equipment we roll on them. Yes the sport shots that some places are putting out has slowed the pace down for those leagues. Has the THS made people stop bowling? I have not heard of a single person who has stopped bowling as a result of that. Due to the rapid rate of honor scores I have heard people stop bowling from that. Centers will put down a somewhat easy shot to get league bowlers. Now you may wonder why they do that. Where does most of their money come from? Their league bowlers. The more league bowlers they have the more money they make. I stopped bowling due to not having fun because of the people I was bowling with. Not due to the sport! Now that I am back in my hometown I am bowling again and slowly starting to enjoy it and getting back to looking at bowling full time. The sport is only as fun as YOU make it. The sport is as easy or as hard as YOU make. It is also all about luck. People don't think about that side of it. Luck plays a bigger role in our sport more so then what people think. Once the ball leaves your hand it is all luck on what happens! If you want to know why I have heard most people leaving the sport it is a toss up of $ and family time, families are involved in many other activities.
I was slightly exaggerating to make a point. It's not completely zero challenge, I meant it just feels like a complete crapshoot. I've shot 780's before when I was so sick I couldn't see and didn't hit the same arrow twice in a row, and I've also shot 620s where my only leave was the exact same pin every single time I didn't strike. You can't tell me you haven't had sets where you threw the ball terrible and scored well and vice versa. If you are on a tougher shot, your score is much more indicative of how you threw the ball. On our PBA leagues during the summer, if I bowl well, I shoot 700, if I bowl bad, I shoot 550, end of story. If you are having fun on house shots, good for you, but when you get to the point that 700's are so common they aren't fun anymore, you might change your attitude. There's a wall you get to eventually when you just can't average any higher than 235 or 240 for a year. Yeah guys have done it before, but not very many. With the way scores work, a tap here, or a miss there, and it won't be a big number.
Here's a story. There's a kid in my town who recently shot an 800 series. He's not a bad kid, but he's not a good bowler, every shot he throws stretches every millimeter of the 10 board area he has. He no thumbs it and just puts his entire body into hooking it as much as he can. This same kid showed up to bowl our summer PBA league this last summer, shot a 354 SERIES on Cheetah the first night, packed up his stuff and never came back. Now he can say he has an 800, just like several other bowlers in town who are actually good. He has now become cocky, impossible to coach (he's in high school bowling) because he shot 800, why does he need more help? This is something I have trouble handling.
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That's because many of the younger and some of the older bowlers do not know how to adjust. All they want to do is cover the entire lane. The new technology of equipment makes it a lot easier to do so. When it comes time to adjust they don't know how to do it. I watched a bunch of pros years ago working with their coach at a tour stop after they were done for the day. You never truly stop learning this game. Each day you learn something new about it if not more. Let that idiot think what he wants to think. I am 37 years old, been bowling most of my life, been around it all my life. I have not had an 800, does it bother me yeah, does it make me strive to be better yeah. Is it going to kill me if I don't ever get one? No it will not. It is a game. People tend to forget that. It is meant for a way for us to have fun. I was lucky and got to bowl on the PBA oil patterns years ago. At that time my league average was around 210. I told myself that due to the tougher patterns IF i could average 180 I would be happy. I averaged 182 for it all. It's all about knowing how difficult some shots are over what you normally bowl on. Sad thing is that some people just truly do not understand that. Nationals is a great example. Tough shot, but playable shot. Shoot average and you should get money back.
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Forget trying to reason with that guy, sd. This is the famous HamPster, author of many totally off the wall and total B.S. posts. He'll say something then come back and say he was "exaggerating to make a point". He can't name a single person who has quit because "bowling is too easy". Those supposed bowlers make a living off the saps who bowl in Handicap leagues with them. Of course, most of them don't have the balls to bowl in scratch leagues and tourneys. Like I said, if there are any bowlers who have quit because of easy conditions it adds up to 1% of the total.
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Thanks for the advice.
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Many quit because they no longer enjoy it. If you have bowled for years and no longer do much in the game except bowl one night a week its easy to lose interest. A ths shot is not the same every where. Many centers are run down crap shoots that shouldn't be sanctioned to bowl on. The interest in bowlers is low, the cost to update is too high. Eventually the center closes and the game has shrunk in participants. Yes a ths is easy. I'm currently bowling in the easiest center in the state. I have little to show for it because of little practice recently.
I bowl on a team that doesn't want to be there and it makes for a painful long night of bowling. Still one pair over a guy goes 264 300 300. I will not bowl there next season. I will be on a more competitive team in a tough house. For me bowling is about who your bowling with as much as anything.
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Many quit because they no longer enjoy it. If you have bowled for years and no longer do much in the game except bowl one night a week its easy to lose interest. A ths shot is not the same every where. Many centers are run down crap shoots that shouldn't be sanctioned to bowl on. The interest in bowlers is low, the cost to update is too high. Eventually the center closes and the game has shrunk in participants. Yes a ths is easy. I'm currently bowling in the easiest center in the state. I have little to show for it because of little practice recently.
I bowl on a team that doesn't want to be there and it makes for a painful long night of bowling. Still one pair over a guy goes 264 300 300. I will not bowl there next season. I will be on a more competitive team in a tough house. For me bowling is about who your bowling with as much as anything.
You nailed it! Hard to say anything else.
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I dont think bowling is any more or less complicated that golf. However I do think that it is possible to over analyze and think too much, especially at a high level.
I consider myself a student of the game because it helps me understand how to play lanesm, and why some balls work and others don't, but these are not the thoughts that are going through my mind once I step on the approach.
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I dont think bowling is any more or less complicated that golf. However I do think that it is possible to over analyze and think too much, especially at a high level.
I consider myself a student of the game because it helps me understand how to play lanesm, and why some balls work and others don't, but these are not the thoughts that are going through my mind once I step on the approach.
Exactly. Do the above and the game is not difficult at all to understand.
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How complicated depends on what level you are looking at.
On house shots the game is not very complicated. You pretty much know where to start and what ball to use. I personally believe that many try to make house shot league bowling too complicated.
In tournament bowling you need to be able to read patterns, know your equipment, and make the proper adjustments during play.
But I wouldn't say it is too complicated. But with the huge amount of information out there today many do over think what is going on.