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CincyBowler82

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Good ball for a dry house shot
« on: March 02, 2015, 10:35:51 AM »
So I started a new league this year at a local house. The lanes are pretty dry compared to other leagues I've been in. It was suggested by someone I know well in bowling to pick up the Arson Low Flare Solid for a dryer shot. So I bought it. I told the guy at the pro-shop I needed it to be non-aggressive so it won't hook that much on a dry shot. This is the pro-shop in the bowling alley I am bowling at so he knows how dry the lanes are. He drilled it with the pin centered above the fingers. I threw it on that shot and can't seem to keep it on the lane. I rev it quite a bit but my speed only stays around 15-15.50. So I'm about average or just below in speed. So I actually resorted back to my old Storm Eraser and I'm hitting the shot quite well. The problem is, the Eraser is old as dirt and has been resurfaced many times. I really need to find a ball that will react the same. I'm standing about 25 and throwing it around 16. It's hitting out to about 10 and coming up nicely. Anyone recommend a ball that would react about the same? I've considered the Storm Pitch Black but I don't want to buy another ball that isn't going to work for me. Any suggestions? Any make is ok with me honestly. I've always bowled better with Storm products but I'm not committed to Storm by any means. Thanks guys!

 

CincyBowler82

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2015, 02:05:33 PM »
I've been reading some threads about UFO polish. Think that would work on the Low Flare Solid to give me what I need? Sounds like I'd be able to keep it on the lane. Any downfalls about using it besides the fact of having to reapply so often? I don't have a spinner so it'd have to either be done by hand or I'd have to have it done at the pro-shop each time.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2015, 02:09:17 PM »
I've been reading some threads about UFO polish. Think that would work on the Low Flare Solid to give me what I need? Sounds like I'd be able to keep it on the lane. Any downfalls about using it besides the fact of having to reapply so often? I don't have a spinner so it'd have to either be done by hand or I'd have to have it done at the pro-shop each time.

UFO, in addition to putting a shine on the ball, reduces the overall hook and reduces the backend, when properly applied. It has an organic slip agent that restricts the absorption of oil , which provides resin coverstocks with a lot of their hooking ability. By the time it wears off, around 25 games, you need to reapply most polishes in any case.

Whether or not it allows you to use any ball on drier conditions than that for the ball was designed is an experiment you need to perform. It depends on too many factors.
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CincyBowler82

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2015, 02:25:52 PM »
Yeah I already had the ball polished. It goes a lot longer but snaps up harder in the back end now. So it didn't help me much. I just wasn't sure if the UFO polish would help. I guess it's worth a try.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2015, 03:24:59 PM »
It's Crossgate Lanes in Blue Ash, OH. A little north of Cincy.

Ask Dave in the pro shop. I got a Roto scream from him for my dry ball, but I am more a stroker. Super natural maybe?

CincyBowler82

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2015, 08:27:37 AM »
That's who I had drill the Arson Low Flare for me. Although I didn't really ask him his opinion. I just told him I wanted that ball and he ordered it. I was going to go in Monday but forgot he's closed on Mondays. Couldn't go in yesterday so I may stop by there today and see what he says.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2015, 10:57:28 AM »
I had my proshop guy suggest a track tour sic. I throw a bit faster than you but it is a High RG ball that gets through the front and mid lane with easy. It makes a nice move to the pocket. It doesn't snap of the dry just nice steady movement to the pocket. I was watching everyone in my team last week go through the nose off the dry and I stayed whacking them.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2015, 12:54:08 PM »
Take a look at the new ABS Bullet.  Hook potential is in the range of a urethane ball, but it is a low rg, low diff reactive.  Reviews in BJ said they could square up on almost any patterns.  Recommended for low speed and/or high rev guys on short dry patterns.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2015, 01:22:18 PM »
I'm having a big problem in my league.  One of my longest balls, a Storm Lights Out, is way too strong, even at the start of the first game.  It's old wood lanes, very light oil, but they put down a sport shot.  It was so short and dry that I had to start with my spareball, which is a Roto Crown.  I could get it to the pocket, but OMG, I had 12 splits in 3 games, including (2) 7-10's in a row.  Went 0-12 in converting the splits.  Plus it was the last match of the season, we were in first place by 3 points.....and thanks to me.....we ended up in second.  UGH.

But anyway, I was thinking about something weak with a core, like a Track Spare+ or a Hammer True Blood, which is supposed to be like a Taboo Spare(?). 
Would something like this be too strong?  Any preference between the 2? 

I have a Storm Supernatural, and it's too strong for this condition. 

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2015, 05:23:29 PM »
I've been reading some threads about UFO polish. Think that would work on the Low Flare Solid to give me what I need? Sounds like I'd be able to keep it on the lane. Any downfalls about using it besides the fact of having to reapply so often? I don't have a spinner so it'd have to either be done by hand or I'd have to have it done at the pro-shop each time.

Try a P1 balance hole.  For a symmetrical ball that will be 6 3/4" from a spot just left of the thumb hole to the VAL.  Start small, say 5/8", and 2.5" deep.  Increase the size, if needed, until you get the reaction you want.  Drilling too large a hole will reduce the reaction too much.  Of course, you'll have to keep the static weights legal.  --  JohnP

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 08:28:09 AM »

Try a P1 balance hole.  For a symmetrical ball that will be 6 3/4" from a spot just left of the thumb hole to the VAL.  Start small, say 5/8", and 2.5" deep.  Increase the size, if needed, until you get the reaction you want.  Drilling too large a hole will reduce the reaction too much.  Of course, you'll have to keep the static weights legal.  --  JohnP

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll talk to Dave at the pro-shop today about popping that hole to see if that'll help. I appreciate that!

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2015, 10:09:53 AM »
I bowl up in the other corner of the state.  The house I bowl in plays pretty dry as well.  The head oil goes fast and I was struggling with either going through the nose, or worse the ball burning up.  My pro shop guy recommended the Track Tour X.  It's shiny surface gets it down the lane without burning up but make a pretty smooth move to the pocket.  It's really working well for me.  You might consider it.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2015, 01:53:14 PM »
Well, went to the guy at the pro-shop before bowling last night. He wasn't so sure a balance hole would do anything. He wanted to watch me throw it. By the time I got back and started bowling, I gave up and just went back to the ball that I bowl well with there anyway. I didn't even bother asking him more. I did order UFO polish but he also informed me that when he polished my ball, he put a slip agent on it which did make the ball go much longer. But it snaps harder in the back end now. So it sounds like the ball just isn't right for those lanes. It was ok on a shot with more oil. Still a bit strong but manageable. I'm probably going to look more into the Super Natural as a replacement for my very old and aging Eraser.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2015, 04:09:06 PM »
I bowl up in the other corner of the state.  The house I bowl in plays pretty dry as well.  The head oil goes fast and I was struggling with either going through the nose, or worse the ball burning up.  My pro shop guy recommended the Track Tour X.  It's shiny surface gets it down the lane without burning up but make a pretty smooth move to the pocket.  It's really working well for me.  You might consider it.

What ball were you using before you got the Track Tour X?

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2015, 04:55:31 PM »
I have a Super Natural and it goes long, but the backend is pretty strong.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2015, 10:00:19 PM »
I bowl up in the other corner of the state.  The house I bowl in plays pretty dry as well.  The head oil goes fast and I was struggling with either going through the nose, or worse the ball burning up.  My pro shop guy recommended the Track Tour X.  It's shiny surface gets it down the lane without burning up but make a pretty smooth move to the pocket.  It's really working well for me.  You might consider it.

What ball were you using before you got the Track Tour X?

I tried a few different balls actually.  Pin down Torrid Elite, Pin beside ring Yeti Untamed, and Pin up Asylum.  Pretty much all of the checked too early or burned up before getting to the pocket.  I also was using a IQtp with pin in the middle finger.  It's a great ball to use when the lanes are a bit fried, but the combination of the burned up heads forcing me over center arrow with flying backends make the ball a bit unpredictable.  For me (  13-14 mph and ~300-325 revs tweener), the Tour x gets both the desired length coupled with the smoother shape downlane.  This keeps me out of trouble when the lanes are playing a bit tough.  Hope that helps.