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Armourboy

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Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« on: August 11, 2013, 05:30:24 AM »
Ok so with the advent of the almighty Youtube and the ability to go back and watch old PBA matches before I got into the sport ( probably about 1998) I've noticed a ton of balls that I flat out don't know what they are or even who made them in some cases.

Now I've figured out some of them by going through the old approved list based around the year they were used, but that doesn't really give me a ton of info on what people thought about them at the time.

Like today, just found out Norm Duke used to throw a ball from a company named Champion that apparently had them poured by Faball.

So ok really what I'm after is those odd little tidbits about how things were, how balls reacted, who threw what when, why they no longer throw it or what ball you wished the would completely reintroduce.

On a side note I've spent the last day or so looking at the matches from the change over from urethane to reactive urethane and the difference it was. Norm Duke wheeling it across the lane in a match or two blew my mind lol. I've pretty much only seen him throw more down and in so it was a bit of a shock to the system.

 

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2013, 07:56:41 PM »
One ball I had was the Helix. That ball was weird in itself.
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Armourboy

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2013, 08:21:03 PM »
Yeah I had a couple in our league who both used one, and talked about how much he wished he had bought a couple more. The people that liked them really seemed to like them, while others were rather meh on the whole ball.

One thing is for sure it looked  damn good, and I think the Quantum series of balls still has one of the best logos ever used.

Now here is another question or at least thought. You look at alot of these old balls and it says it for " heavy oil" but I'm guessing the would be more like a medium pattern today?
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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2013, 09:49:30 PM »
Really depends. The oil really hasn't changed that much. Todays big hooking ball are stonger then those from the late 90s early 2000s but those bowling balls will still hold there own very nicely.

Surface makes a big difference.
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Armourboy

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2013, 09:53:38 PM »
Really depends. The oil really hasn't changed that much. Todays big hooking ball are stonger then those from the late 90s early 2000s but those bowling balls will still hold there own very nicely.

Surface makes a big difference.

Thanks really don't have much of a comparison from a personal stand point because I've just never really seen a " heavy" lane condition, about the heaviest I've seen is a medium-heavy type. Certainly wouldn't have a clue compared to the older balls because I never bought them, just way too much ball for the lanes around here.

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2013, 04:17:03 AM »
I loved my Quantum Sage and Raven, those are two that i completely loved. And keeping with brunswick one of my all time Favs was the HPD.  A few cool balls from a lil bit ago was the Clear Wolf and Omega from Ebonite.  Actually EBO had a few quirky balls late ninetys early 2000's Formula optyx! 

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2013, 07:15:32 AM »
loved my clear wolf.  did anyone else ever throw a gem star mine was clear slight gold tint and the core was shaped like a gum drop.

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2013, 06:49:31 AM »
EBO has always had some odd ideas with balls, sometimes a bit too odd. Oddly enough around here I never saw very many EBOs used, and that is with an Ebonite Center about 45 minutes down the  road. The house I primarily bowled in was always heavily Columbia or Brunswick,  with Storm  a bit more later on.

We had several older people that still bowled with Urethane when I first started in the late 90's and by the time I had to stop almost all of them were throwing one of the Messengers.

I can remember a Red, White and Blue Ebonite ball, seems like a Soccer ball maybe, and there was something clear, oh the Skull Ball, but I'll be damned if I remember who made each one.

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2013, 03:19:55 PM »
the Brunswick T-1, T-2, and T-3 were Tracmasters that were, indeed made in about 1965.  It was a hard rubber ball that came in gun metal blue.  They also used that shell on the Automatic Scorer ball from the same era.  I remember them so well because I won my first scratch match play tourney with a T-1 in 1966.  By the way, I was told later that the only difference in the balls was the weight block placement.  The stronger hooking T-3 had more positive and finger weight if drilled on the label.  Nobody dodo scaled balls for most of us back then, so who knows.   

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2013, 03:28:11 PM »
I always wanted an Ebonite 8-Ball. 

Dynothane made a lot of stuff before going overseas. 

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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2013, 04:33:13 PM »
I heard from a guy who bowled on tour at the time when Brunswick was coming out with the LT-48 and I believe the LT-51 they gave Tommy Hudson the choice of which ball he wanted his name on.

He chose the LT-51 and Johnny Petraglia the LT-48. Of course the LT-48 turned out to be hugely more popular.

I never could throw the soft rubber balls of the time (LT-48, KE-21) they simply rolled way to early for me.

Armourboy

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2013, 04:36:11 PM »
Never had a chance to throw one of the softer ones, although I've thrown several old hard rubber.

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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2013, 05:34:06 PM »
Raiderh2oboy has a NIB EUI Tank in his shop.

I have a second drill right handed JPF Black Axe. As reported, this was the first patented asymmetrical ball but I understand Brunswick manufactured the Phantom before John Fabinich (of Faball fame) could reach production. I've never thrown it.

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2013, 06:45:31 PM »
LT 48 wasn't bad as an alternative to polyester on urethane finished wood lanes, but was very condition specific.  I believe Dave Soutar won the Masters with one when they first came out.  You could sometimes open up something off the corner with it when plastic would hang.   Sanded urethane made the LT 48 obsolete.

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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2013, 09:41:44 PM »
I loved the Neo-Tac Khameleons.  Super adjustable cover (tweaked version of pk 18) and great mushroom core.  Rumor was they had a second ball in plans, but it never materialized.  I think I've had 6 of them...
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Re: Great Balls of the past or odd companies even!
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2013, 09:58:27 PM »
I had a EUI tank sold it an the guy that I sold it to still uses it. The xcaliber is the ball that started the risen balls
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