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luv2bowl12xs

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HELP WITH 10 PIN
« on: March 22, 2013, 07:45:52 PM »
im a very high rev player and i struggle with my 10 pins some nights i get them all other nights i might get one im looking for any and all tips or how to be more consistent on covering the 10 pin i have used a plastic ball and all but same problem ANY IDEAS
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Re: HELP WITH 10 PIN
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 10:06:47 AM »
You want your ball to go straight as possible. The idea of this is take away any factors (mostly oil or lack of it). You have to practice this straight release. Almost think of it as your B game.

I am able to play the same line with a plastic ball whether its dry or heavy oil. The ball is going straight no matter what. To me this is simplest approach. If you throw straight and hit your mark it doesn't matter what your environment is that ball is going to hit that pin guaranteed! Alot easier to practice one line instead of many.

Now another reason for a plastic ball. We are not perfect. I know on occassion even if I intend to throw straight I still have a tendency to put some rotation on it. Well as we all know plastic isn't going to react to dry lanes as a reactive ball would.

Throwing straight just takes some time to practice. Some say to break the wrist. But the key is to no turning at release. The thing I like to think of is going back to the past to a time when you couldn't hook a ball.  Throwing straight is simple, you do nothing at release and throw the ball towards your target. Don't over think it.





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But don't speed up like you would to throw it hard. You don't need to throw it hard, only accurate. Stay with your same rhythm, but break your wrist and throw it straight at the 10-pin. Find your comfort zone by practicing.

Just remember, it's only a little ol 10-pin.

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Re: HELP WITH 10 PIN
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 07:17:04 PM »
Many people are contradicting themselves in their responses.  Do this, do that, figure out what works for you.  All in one post. 

Many people have had success going to a plastic/urethane ball for their spares, especially for the 10-pin (for right handers).  The theory is by using a ball that doesn't hook a lot by its design, the bowler can use his normal release and be able to hit the 10-pin.  This method does need some practice to know where you need to stand to hit the pin.

But what I have been noticing is even with plastic, high-rev bowlers are having a hard time keeping the ball on track on today's drier THS prevalent here where I bowl.  The excess dry area makes the ball hook past the pin.  What I try to teach is find a line and a release that allows the ball to finish hooking to where the ball is traveling as straight down the lane as possible.  This is especially effective for lower-rev bowlers.  Too often I see bowlers think because they are throwing plastic they can just chunk it down the lane and it will convert the spare.  But you still have to have an approach to the spare. 

Ideally throwing the ball end over end at the 10-pin is ideal, but if you could do that you wouldn't need a spare ball.  So find a release for you that allows the ball to finish hooking by traveling straight down the lane (not hooking back to the left for right handers).  That way if the shot really starts to dry up, you don't have the ball hooking past the pin, but instead hooking TO the pin.

I dissagree.learning to hook a ball at single pin  spares is a no no. I've seen balls turn on a dime at the very last second and miss the pin.
Trash Heap has it right. plastic ball and roll it straight. I can cover the ten with my hooky ball as well but in the end of a series I feel I have a better percentage with the plastic and it makes a great dry lane ball as well.
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Re: HELP WITH 10 PIN
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 10:50:57 PM »
I dont put my fingers in all the way so I dont rip up on it...break my wrist and throw it end over end...also I throw it so it rolls out straight down the lane..I focus on getting the ball to the dry and let it do what it wants to do..roll out in to the ten.

Also...I dont rush it but I don't sit there and think about it..I dont give myself time to think myself out of it...if I am making any sense.   I stay confident, break my wrist and staight ball it down there.  I dont use a spare ball...I like to keep the same feel as my strike ball so I can execute the spare.

+1 ... Even though I use a plastic ball for the 10, 6-10, etc, I too don't put my fingers all the way in.  Of everything I have tried, "don't put your fingers all the way in" works best foe me.
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Re: HELP WITH 10 PIN
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2013, 07:23:11 AM »
Many people .....

But what I have been noticing is even with plastic, high-rev bowlers are having a hard time keeping the ball on track on today's drier THS prevalent here where I bowl.  The excess dry area makes the ball hook past the pin.  What I try to teach is find a line and a release that allows the ball to finish hooking to where the ball is traveling as straight down the lane as possible.  This is especially effective for lower-rev bowlers.  Too often I see bowlers think because they are throwing plastic they can just chunk it down the lane and it will convert the spare.  But you still have to have an approach to the spare. 

Ideally throwing the ball end over end at the 10-pin is ideal, but if you could do that you wouldn't need a spare ball.  So find a release for you that allows the ball to finish hooking by traveling straight down the lane (not hooking back to the left for right handers).  That way if the shot really starts to dry up, you don't have the ball hooking past the pin, but instead hooking TO the pin.

I dissagree.learning to hook a ball at single pin  spares is a no no. I've seen balls turn on a dime at the very last second and miss the pin.
Trash Heap has it right. plastic ball and roll it straight. I can cover the ten with my hooky ball as well but in the end of a series I feel I have a better percentage with the plastic and it makes a great dry lane ball as well.

I think my concept was misunderstood.  I disagree with "hooking" the ball at the 10-pin.  HOWEVER, not everyone, even with practice, can throw the ball straight end over end.  If they could they wouldn't need a plastic ball to begin with.

I am saying it is easier for those bowlers, especially crankers, to concentrate on reducing their rotation to a point where they can have the ball rolling forward when they roll the ball cross-lane at the 10 pin.  If the rotation is from right to left, then there is a chance the ball can hook past the 10-pin. 

I think the bowlers on ball reviews sometimes forget how difficult hand release changes are for the majority of bowlers.  The way I understood the OP was he has a hard time with the 10-pin because of his rev rate.  I am sure it is obvious to most throwing the ball straight is the way to pick the 10-pin up, but he/she is unable to do that.  I was simply suggesting an in-between fix for the time being; something between his normal release and throwing the ball straight.